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    Leather trimmed seats

    Hi theoldwizard1. Additionally, since I am relatively sure you will not believe me alone, and to avoid a needlessly drawn out discussion, you can peruse these links: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=ford+leather+trimmed+seating+surfaces As with most information on the Internet, you will need to sift through the "opinions" and chaff to find the informative articles. Good luck.
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    Leather trimmed seats

    Hi theoldwizard1. The information I provided is correct. To paraphrase an old saying...Yes, all "piping" is trim, but not all trim is "piping". "Piping" is what they call "piping". Trim simply means part of something, as in not all. Leather trimmed seats refers to the parts of the seats that touch the body are leather. The rest (sides, rear face, map pockets, etc.) is not. This subject has been discussed often in the past. Including this thread located here, begun by member "theoldwizard" : "Leather trimmed seats" is just the newer marketing speak for "leather seating surfaces", as was discussed back in 2016. Good luck.
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    Leather trimmed seats

    Hi tow. Yes, but the "OLD definition !" still applies. For marketing purposes, it is now called "leather trimmed" instead of "leather seating surfaces". That is the correct information. Automotive manufacturers decided it sounds more upscale, for whatever their reasons. Good luck.
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    Leather trimmed seats

    Hi tow. This refers to only the part of the seats that our bodies touch. Good luck.
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    2022 Lincoln Aviator Production Information

    Hi Lbacker. I would check with at least two other Dealers to see if their stories match. Although ice-capades can probably give a better answer to this one, my thoughts are: Delayed? Yes. A year? No. In my opinion, the Dealer you spoke to is trying to steer you towards buying a vehicle he has in stock. But that is only an opinion. Let us know how you make out and good luck.
  6. Hi Exit. Ahhh...I see. I understand why some people prefer the simplicity of trading in their used vehicle. However, if you want to get the most for your used vehicle, and can spare the minimal time it would take to sell your Explorer on your own while waiting for your Aviator factory order to arrive, follow the advice I posted above and sell it yourself. If you can't find a buyer on your own, you can still trade it in when your new Aviator arrives. Good luck with whatever you decide to do. 🙂
  7. Hi Exit. I am just curious...Why do you care if your trade-in can be CPO'd? Just trying to think of reasons it would matter and can't come up with any...lol Keep us updated and good luck.
  8. Hi Exit. I was typing my reply as "twintornado"s was posting his. The example he gives of separate Ford and Lincoln Dealerships working together (usually because they are co-owned) was the example I was thinking of when I stated that some Ford Dealerships may be able to execute Lincoln purchases for their long time customers. I was just too lazy to type it out to explain it...🤣 Bottom line is the best way to find out the answer to that question for your situation is to ask your Ford Dealership. EDIT - And just to clarify...when I am referring to a "Ford Dealership" or a "Lincoln Dealership", I am referring to standalone Dealerships, not combination Lincoln/Ford Dealerships. So what "ice-capades" stated is correct in that a standalone Ford Dealership can not order a Lincoln. They may be able to facilitate a Lincoln sale through an affiliated Lincoln Dealer for you, but technically, they are not ordering or delivering the vehicle for you. They would not be your selling Dealership etc. etc. And on the subject of trading-in your Explorer. If you are ordering an Aviator, I would recommend taking the additional ~8+ weeks of time to sell it on your own. Keep in mind that taking our trade-in is not a complementary service that Dealers provide for us. It is a additional profit making business for them. And there is nothing wrong with that. They are in business to make a profit. However, you will most likely be able to sell your old vehicle for far more than any Dealership will offer for trade-in, including the sales tax hit. Assuming you kept it in good condition. Just determine your Trade-in and Private Party sale asking prices, using Edmunds.com, KBB.com, local pricing etc etc. Then negotiate the best trade-in offer from your Dealership. Then determine your worthwhile Private Party sale asking price. Put for sale signs on it, list it etc., and see if you can sell it for a worthwhile amount. If you can, great. If you can't, then trade it in when your new vehicle arrives. It is what I always do, and have always been able to privately sell my old vehicle for quite a bit more then the trade-in offer. Up to $3,500 more (over the sales tax hit). Estimating I spent a little over 3 hours making For Sale signs and giving test drives etc while I was waiting for my factory ordered MKZ, I made about $1,000 an hour. Not bad. Of course again, this is my own personal situation, and I don't mind the short/minimal hassle of doing it. So do what is best for you. Let us know how you make out and good luck.
  9. Hi Exit. A lot of information above. Here are some definite truths: - An X-Pan PIN is an X-Pan PIN and can be used for both Ford and Lincoln vehicles. - Ford Dealers can service Lincoln vehicles. And I actually take my out of warranty Lincolns to my local Ford Dealers for some things, like oil changes, basic work etc. However, for warranty work, I do take them back to my Lincoln Dealer, since there are some Lincoln exclusive features that a Ford tech may not be overly familiar with. Yes they can pull up TSB's, schematics, etc, but a Lincoln tech may be more familiar, through experience, with certain nuances of Lincoln vehicles. Bringing my cars to my Lincoln Dealer for warranty work is just my own personal preference. Plus, some Ford Dealers will not perform Lincoln Warranty work. Emphasis on the "some". And as previously stated, a Ford Dealer is under no obligation to provide Lincoln warranty perks, such a a complementary loaner. Good luck.
  10. Hi Exit. The answers to your questions are relatively . 1. If you are a longtime customer, ask them. However, the answer in almost all cases will be no. Plus a Ford Dealer would normally not be in a position to offer the Lincoln perks (i.e. complementary loaners etc.), because they would not be compensated by Lincoln/Ford for them. 2. Yes, an X-Plan PIN is good for any Lincoln/Ford product (with a few special edition/high demand exceptions). Keep in mind participation in Plan sales is at Dealer discretion. Also, according to your patience and negotiating skills, it is possible to negotiate a better price than X-Plan on your own. 3. Once you trade-in your vehicle, a Dealer can do whatever they please with it, including certifying it as CPO. Let us know how you make out and good luck.
  11. Hi gang. We do not have a a wheel/tire sub-forum, so figured I would post this information in the sub-forum of the Lincoln vehicle I own. It's the time of year when some of us will be dealing with bent or damaged wheels, especially at the tail end of a rough winter for many of us. So, not being sure if everyone knows that wheels can be straightened/repaired, I figured I would begin a new thread, instead of hijacking another. Instead of paying a bundle to replace a factory wheel or replace all four wheels with aftermarket wheels, it is possible, in many/most instances, to have a bent and/or cosmetically damaged wheel straightened/refinished. Essentially, If you Google "Automotive wheel repair in my area" most of us should be able to get at least a short list of wheel repair companies and specialists in your own area. How do I know this...you may ask? I just had a bent 19" wheel on my sisters car straightened for her (humongous pothole and also flat tire). Now, there are obvious re-straightening/repair limitations as to where the damage is and how much. For example, the first question I was asked by all three companies I called was "Is the visible bend on the outside (visible face) or the inside (suspension side) of the wheel." In my sister's case, it was on the inside. Once I told them that, they all said "Sure, it should be able to be straightened". Also, in her case it was not a significant bend. Enough to feel when driving, but not as bad as many of the "Before/After" display photos the companies showed on their websites. Anyway, the price quotes I received to straighten a wheel ranged from $85-$125. And one of the companies will actually come out to your home, business etc., remove the wheel, straighten it onsite in their fully equipped double trailer, then reinstall the wheel etc I decided to remove and reinstall her wheel beforehand, being a bit OCD about my own car, impact wrenches etc. After all, it was my sister. The wheel was road force balanced with a new tire and actually had less balance weights on it after the straightening than before. A new factory wheel for her car would have run ~$800. And that was after me negotiating the price down from the ~$944 list price from several Ford Dealers I called the day after the accident (a Saturday). I also called 3 different wheel repair companies that same day (knowing they were closed). They all called me back on Monday. For those unlucky enough to hit a pothole and bend a wheel, $85-$125 is much better than $400-$500...$800-$900 etc for a new wheel. The company I used is a national franchise that will come to your location to repair the wheel. So if anyone has been unlucky and is interested, I can give them the company name and you can Google to see if they have a franchise in your location. I can vouch for the franchise owner/tech who did my work (in NJ), and would hope all their franchise owners would be as good. Otherwise, just Google "Automotive wheel repair in my area", as mentioned above. As an additional FYI: I asked about the procedure for cosmetic wheel repair (curb rash et.), and was told that repairing curb rash or other cosmetically damaged wheels usually requires them having the wheel for at least 24 hours for a full and proper repair, refinishing, repainting etc. I don't quote any pricing for that, as I did not ask and assume cosmetic repair pricing will depend on the amount of work necessary, Hope this helps anyone who may bend or damage a wheel and did not know they can be repaired. May possibly save you a lot of money. Feel free to ask any questions and good luck.
  12. bbf2530

    2017 Edge hood won't open.

    Hi RM. Usually a Dealership purchase has some sort of warranty. I would advise bringing it back to the Dealership so they can repair it. Let us know how you make out and good luck.
  13. Hi Andrew. Looks very nice! Congratulations and good luck! 🤗
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    Interior Door Release Failure

    Hi BA. I understand all of your frustration. Only want to point out one error. In the vast majority of cases, Lemon Law or other buyback vehicles are not destroyed. Most are repaired and sold, with a disclosure that it was a buyback vehicle when applicable by State law. Good luck.
  15. Hi gang. For those of us who have been waiting for Lincoln/Ford Dealers to have the parts for the 19S54 brake recall (1st generation models), my Dealership notified me today they now have them. Good luck.