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When we were buying our Escape in 2023, we also considered the BS, but the interior space of the BS was sufficient to disqualify it. I think the size of the BS does not translate for a lot of Escape buyers.

I’m glad you are back at it. Hopefully things go smoothly for you and the plant.

I imagine the EPA would have an issue with Ford shitting it down.

Here lies the issue-its a bit more phycological then a real issue The range thing is like this-ok you have a gas car but it only has a 10 gallon tank so you can only go about 200-250 miles for example. Is the buyer always going to keep the tank full? How many times are people driving 250+ miles in one shot regularly? If your commuting (using myself-but I do have a short drive to work-30 miles or so round trip) I can basically drive all week to and from work and not worry about it. I get there are other people out there that drive differently, but the vast majority of the issues do go away if you can charge at home. It causes an additional "headache" if you live in high density areas though..but that is up to the end user to decide if they can make a lifestyle change or not to support the vehicle. But all this said is why there is push back against EVs by normies-they don't want to change their behaviors or expect an EV to act exactly like an ICE

We, Ford of Canada have been picked three times straight by unifor. There will be NO strike! We’re just starting to get back to the plant and it is slow as hell in there as we are only in TT2 phase. NOV 2 is the ok to ship date right now. We aren’t going to strike Ford and Unifor are a partnership as far as I’m concerned. Everytime unifor says they’re gonna strike at the last minute a deal is reached. We are in no position to strike for fuck all right now. I’m just happy to have just got back in the building. Also, the union wants to start negotiations early with ford. I ll keep you guys posted.

found the buyer of this car!

Crossover. The sedan is for sure flat rock unless they move the coupe and shut it down. Cuautitlan might handle all 3.

yeah I get that but honestly given what’s been said and also Ford’s reputation on the issue the price point is probably more important to hit. The Chevy Bolt on 262 miles using LFP is actually a number you can reportedly count on based off what their owners are saying. If they can replicate that which feels very achievable then it works.

It could but the worst mistake Ford could do is disappoint buyers and their expectations Ford is very optimistic with the ranges it sets and people tend to believe the best until they can’t achieve it because of other real world conditions.

And don’t gaslight people into some overly optimistic range value, if the average driver won’t ever get 250 then call it 225 or 210 thinking of cold winters in snow states….

So why wouldn’t the same thing work for the skunk truck except $7k+ cheaper than the Mach E

So offer an upgraded version for those who want it but keep the entry price low with 250 range. Same concept as offering base cars with anemic engines and offering the customer the choice to upgrade.

While Ford does not publicly split specific Mach-E sales figures by battery size, buyer preference is heavily split based on usage. Most budget-conscious buyers and urban commuters find the Standard Range entirely sufficient, but buyers seeking road-trip flexibility or maximum performance heavily favor the Extended Range. And this is how it goes because Ford’s mantra has changed to providing the smallest battery it can to save money and maximise profits after abandoning full sized Lightning and its bigger more costly batteries.

Unifor will ram a contract through quickly, we always do

I figure the thought is that plenty of people (including Ford) are already offering the $37k option with 300 miles and it doesn’t get the volume they’re looking for, but nobody except Chevy offers a $30k model with ~260 miles. They can always just have an extended range option for like $4000 that gets you over 300.

I honestly think it was a really bad idea for them to so publicly peg themselves to a position that would likely require a strike almost 5 years out. We were all a bit high on the success after the Big 3 strike and VW win until roughly the MB vote (which was entirely winnable, but a certain individual not named Shawn Fain pushed a foolish organizing strategy different from what worked at VW). I can only speculate but I can imagine they created an aura of feeling bound to follow up on the proclamations. I’ve felt that before on contracts (not this high stakes…) but ultimately you can only do what membership is willing to do.

I think it also depends on where you live. Colder areas might want more range. People living in cities might be ok with less range. I don’t think I’d ever buy an EV with less then 300 mile range. There are already plenty of vehicles that get that range and are between 30-40k.

2 years is a long time and a lot can happen between now and May 2028. I have some very close friends with family who have positions down at international and the feeling is it doesn’t matter what the big 3 offer, there will be a strike no matter what and IMO the hill they’re choosing to die on is a fool’s errand. Things from my perspective economically are edging closer to perilousness regardless of what the current Administration wants to claim. If things go the way I think they’re going a strike will be catastrophic to the membership. I would much rather have someone in charge who is tough but much more stoic. I can do without all the posturing Mr. Fain loves.

This has been coming for years. In the 1990s I used to buy the big servicing book from Ford for my vehicles but by the early 2000s they stopped access to them, had to work for a Ford dealer.

I've had few problems with ACP and Sync3 in My Ranger. Compared The Google platform in the 2025 Explorer I owned briefly, Sync3 is easier to use for me as well.

$120 here for a gasser. Over $200 for my truck. I do it myself now.

That will be next, or included: no more third party extended warranties. Once that happens, OEM's could start decontenting them, or changing the language to exempt certain procedures. A crankshaft could become a "normal wear & tear item."

I’m a rep for another union and am ideologically/relationally committed to Fain’s faction, so the way I analyze it is prob different from you, but given he is trying to claw back Great Recession concessions he probably needs at least a powerful strike threat to get that. Any employer let alone Ford doesn’t really give that without being forced these days. I am a bit skeptical of how successful 2028 will be personally though. It’s tough to say what his reelection chances look like given the factional evolution, also I am with a diff union so I lack a direct pulse. He has gotten members a fuck of a lot more than his predecessors. Ultimately it’s up to them.

Ford only has to look at what it’s current BEV customers prefer, the larger battery option is popular and no amount of slight of hand can undo the very real issue of buyer range anxiety.

Hell yeah, keep us posted.