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I think ExplorerDude also said it would be called Maverick.

I followed the bread crumbs on that one and it was an article from like 2023/24 before we heard about the ranchero trademark. It was just a case of news outlets pickup up an old story. I think it'll be called ranchero.

Someone posted an article earlier which said it might be called Maverick EV. I already said my thoughts about two different vehicles sharing a name in the other thread so I won’t bring that up again 😆

Last night I paid $1.95/gal for E10/87 at the Walmarts in Sapulpa.

Eh, that’s a myth, a fairy story told to young executives to keep them in line. “Screw this up and we’ll have you working on the TC Wagon.”

My recollection of the story was that they were using parts that were basically only there for show, not parts that would be used in an actual wagon version of the TC, and they were “recycled” back to Europe to be used again, but it’s entirely possible that I’m misremembering that.

I will say if this is indeed the front end they're going with just toned down, I like it. If they end up using the ranchero name, it retains that muscle truck look.

True, but if it's around the height of a maverick, even with an angled bed side, it would presumably be lower than something like a ranger or f-150 bedside.

I don’t think truck buyers will appreciate this design, not because it looks weird, but because it’s not user friendly. This design makes you climb up in the bed to get anything out vs simply leaning over the side to grab something. Now, my assumption is that this truck isn’t for “traditional” truck buyers anyways so they may be more open to it.

You may be right

The 5 affordble products were near term including ICE/HEVs. Sedans and 3 row EVs are future plans.

This looks cool! Strategically placed to give us a sneak peek, wheels are the same too.

The gray rendering could also be the one. Things like the sail pillar could be seen as a little cyber truck like, but they also call back to things like the ranchero and El Camino. A toned down version of that sail pillar, retaining the fender treatment, and this front end (because we haven't seen the lighting yet) but giving it a slightly longer hood would fit the ranchero name. It would kinda have that ute look without rocking the boat too much. With how they seem to have pushed the rear of the cab back more, having an angled bed side like this would look less awkward that a perfectly flat bed side imo. Like it would be a more gradual transition going from the back of the cab to the tailgate, and would really sell that bold new sport truck look.

I don't believe so, they're talking like that's what Ford told them.

I replaced the windshield wiper blades on the Mark VII today. That wasn't much of job since all I did was buy some cut-to-length rubber blade refills. After sliding the old blades out of the tracks on the wiper arms and removing the metal guide bar from the old blades, you just cut the new ones to length, install the old guide bar on the new refill and slide them back into place in the tracks. I did have to bend the little stop bar on one end of the arm up out of the way in order to be able to slide the blades in and out but after the new blades are in you just bend the stop bar back down. I had never tried to use the wipers until today because the old blades were so bad that I didn't want to risk scratching the windshield with bare metal. Turns out the driver side wiper arm was off by a spline or two and wasn't going all the way down to the "park" position when you turned them off. It was also hitting the A pillar and the windshield trim piece when it came to the top of its travel. The position of the passenger side arm was fine and it did return to the "park" position. After I repositioned the driver side arm and checked that it worked properly I also filled the windshield washer reservoir. Next time I turned them on they wouldn't return to the "park" position like they did previously when I turned off the wiper switch. Hmmmm? I did some research on-line and found out that the wiper motor has a separate circuit that pulls the arms down to the stops below the windshield when you turn off the switch. Seemed odd that everything worked fine when I first tried them. Anyway, I found an old Lincoln message forum with a post that discussed this same issue. One of the posters had a wiring diagram that showed how the circuits worked with the switch in each different position. He figured out how to remove the plastic cover from the wiper motor that covers the mechanism for the "park" feature and had to reposition a lever arm inside the motor which fixed his problem, or so he thought. However, after he filled the washer reservoir his wiper "park" feature quit working just like mine did. Pretty sure filling the reservoir had nothing to do with the real problem but it just happened to be coincidental to what happened to me. What he discovered was that he hadn't fully tightened a couple of the screws that hold the cover on. As soon as he tightened them it worked fine again. He assumed it had something to do with the position of the internal mechanism not being correct when the screws were loose. I went back out and looked at mine and noticed that one of those screws he said was loose also held the ground wire for the wiper motor. I took that screw out as well as the small sheet metal screw connecting the other end of the ground wire to the motor. After cleaning the connectors on both ends of the wire and putting it all back together, as soon as I turned the ignition key to the "run" position, the wipers returned to the "park" position. Problem solved! I'm betting that the guy who posted all that really only had a bad ground connection just like mine. When he took that cover all the way off the internal mechanism somehow got moved to the wrong position (gravity will do that) and naturally wouldn't work when he put the cover back on. Once he got everything back together correctly he still had a problem until he tightened that screw holding the ground wire but he never once mentioned anything about that ground wire. Had he simply checked the ground wire first he probably could have saved himself a lot of work.🙄😉😁

You can’t win when arguing with stupid people

I can’t see this being the design at all. It looks too much like the cyber truck, and doesn’t match the silhouettes that have been shown already. Like I said earlier, I think the large ford script is cool, but I can’t say I like anything else about this design. I’m hoping ford threw this sketch in to keep us off the scent of the real vehicle, which I believe is the white one in the top. It seems to look more like the shape we have seen.

Ford has said 5 affordable products. They won’t all be CE1. The CE1 sedans and 3 row are just speculation by Motor Trend.

Again, If you look at broader shapes/looks rather than details on that sketch, and think of them in a "production version" mindset, the details we've seen on the buffing image do match the broad looks - the flat "grille" area, the forward bump. The styling elements can pull from that rendering's design while still being a different shape/silhouette (closer to a regular truck hood/bed).

True but if the blue sketch is what they went with, the hood would be shorter and you wouldn't have this flat part near the windshield that we saw in the initial reaction vid.

Well, I think Ford has said 5 products off of it, haven't they? The new ones here are the sedans and 3 row SUV. Or was that 5 "affordable" products? What still doesn't line up is the TTP product...

I think we'll see a toned down version of this. If you look at broader shapes/looks rather than details on that sketch, and think of them in a "production version" mindset, the details we've seen on the buffing image do match the broad looks - the flat "grille" area, the forward bump

Some new info from a motor trend article, it's still gonna truck elements, and shouldn't look like a potato. But it also seems like they were given Ford's figure road map with CE1. Unless I missed something, they didn't preface this with "We speculate or hope that Ford makes these products". It seems like they're stating this is Ford's actual intent. Planning to offer not one, but two sedans was surprising.

I don't believe it'll be this bold, but I do like the direction Ford's taking here of trying to give an affordable truck a more expressive and daring design.

From the sales chart I saw, the Focus was done in 2019 sales wise....I thought the same thing, but you had the Fiesta, EcoSport, Flex and Edge (Edge only sold ~700 in 2025). The Taurus was winding down at the same time.