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We should usually take our lawyer's advice, but not always. It just reminds me of the Specialized bicycle company's overly aggressive trademark defense, and I know that many in the cycling community who had no opinion one way or the other about that company will never own a Specialized bike because of it. I'm in that group. I'd hate to see Ford make the same mistake. Just because it's within your legal rights does not make it a good business decision. https://velo.outsideonline.com/road/road-racing/specializeds-disastrous-trademark-case-is-unnecessary-to-defend-the-brand/

Here's my update/lack of update on my 2025 F450 Lariat order: 9/30 Ordered Confirmed. Scheduled for week of 12/9 11/27 Updated to "In Production" with a note saying "this could take a few days" 12/12 No change to it's status since 11/27 Still no window sticker. I got excited thinking they were ahead of schedule. Wrong. Oh well. My 2017 F350 is still serving me well.

Here's my update/lack of update on my 2025 F450 Lariat order: 9/30 Ordered Confirmed. Scheduled for week of 12/9 11/27 Updated to "In Production" with a note saying "this could take a few days" 12/12 No change to it's status since 11/27 Still no window sticker. I got excited thinking they were ahead of schedule. Wrong. Oh well. My 2017 F350 is still serving me well.

I'll agree with you regarding the Hybrid with Pro Power Onboard but won't be surprised if it's not available for at least a year or couple of years yet. The Hybrid with Pro Power Onboard has already established itself on the F-150's and would be a logical step for the Super Duty models. As for any BEV version, I think that's still years down the road.

In sharp contrast to my 2010 Dodge Challenger, which is still on the original battery... F350 battery looks to be going bad Is AGM worth the extra $100?

This makes the most sense to me. Ford has talked about a larger push into HEV’s. This could help bring the cost down and finally give ford the supply they need for hybrids. Wouldn’t surprise me if all future non-EV’s go hybrid only. Except for the big trucks.

Impressive. I don't know why it shows a blank text box when I'm trying to quote you, but there you go lol.

According to our union Body 2 which was gonna be the new battery plant will remain a part of Body build going forward according to the blueprints for the body shop that they seen.

Agree, 7m, thx for the post. No doubt the late Mike Parkhurst was NOT a fan of Ford. One of his reasons I believe was Ford's use of rail for transporting I guess much of its inbound freight as well as outbound finished vehicles. Had to laugh though when he talks about the flat faced W "pushing wind" and you go to the back cover of the issue in question and there is an equally flat faced Pete 362-although it did have a curved corner windshield.😎 But surprisingly, he did have a lot of positive things to say about the "W". Now if you wanted to read a total hatchet job, somewhere in my "archives" I have the issue when the Louisville was announced. Absolutely nothing but negatives. I'll see if I can find it. Rarely would he ever mention the price differential between a Ford and say a Pete or KW.

I think we’ll see a hybrid at the very least with pro power onboard. I wouldn’t rule out a BEV with range extender either,

Not dead just paused while they redesign it and figure out the path forward, They would certainly be available if needed for Oakville.

I'd guess hybrid more focused on pro-power ability. There were the rumors of an EREV version too, but who knows. With how Ford's plans changed, the next Super Duty could go to a flying truck and back to the Flintstone mobile by the time it comes out.

Yeah I'd say that is just boiler plate....there are no local battery plants in Canada AFAIK to Oakville and the plans to build them for the 3 row went up in smoke with them getting canceled?

It's just PR language. Most likely, with the current BEV market and Ford's constant changes in vehicle plans, it'll be years before the market sees electrification of the Super Duty lines.

My 2 cents, and that’s all it’s worth, is that affordability of a viable car remains key to mass adoption. And by viable I mean a design many buyers (but not all) will consider an acceptable compromise, not what they would want in a “perfect” world. Trying to please everyone is a waste of time and money, yet seems to be what legacy automakers have attempted. Since many buyers are unwilling to compromise on vehicle size, aerodynamic shape, range, etc., it’s best to ignore them initially and focus on buyers willing to compromise; and therefore provide vehicles similar to what has sold best for years — Tesla Models Y and 3. To penetrate a larger segment of market, even Tesla knows lower costs are needed. We shouldn’t have to wait much longer for lower-cost BEVs to arrive in order to test affordability premise, assuming Tesla plans to introduce a viable lower-cost vehicle in first half of 2025 is for real. It has been reported price will be $30k after credit, or $37.5k if tax credit is eliminated. That’s roughly $5k lower than lowest-cost present Model 3. I personally expect it will mostly be a shorter-range, less powerful, and decontented Model 3; though I could easily be off. Regardless, since Model 3 sells relatively well for a BEV, a cheaper version or something similar should confirm if much greater numbers of buyers will flock to purchase based solely or mostly on lower price.

Since Tesla is reportedly about to introduce a $30k vehicle (with tax credit, or +/- $37.5k if credit is cancelled), it seems to me they don’t think of themselves as a luxury brand. Maybe initially in days of Models S and X, but that was more to hide the cost penalty of building BEVs at that time. Today Tesla is mostly about Models Y/3 which I agree are not luxury. The upcoming model “Q” (as recently referred to in news) will be even cheaper, so definitely not luxury at all. And I don’t mean that in a derogatory way. Their models Y/3 sell more than all luxury BEVs combined as of last data I recall. I know volume doesn’t necessarily correlate with profitability, but the main reason to build BEVs in the first place supports volume over luxury IMO.

What does Ford mean by this? Will next generation Super Duty have all of these? Gasoline E85 Diesel/Biodiesel LPG/Propane Hybrid Plug in Hybrid Battery electric Fuel Cell electric

Both. Adding production capacity and also adding electrification but they gave no details on what kind of electrification.

This morning's updated gas prices in Hamden, CT (New Haven)  $3.09 Regular (Cash) @ Gulf (No Change)  $3.15 Regular (Cash) @ Citgo (Reduced to $3.15 from $3.19 - Midgrade & Premium prices also reduced)

I remember looking at a Chevrolet Suburban at the Harrisburg Auto Show a few years ago and the sticker price was over $70,0000. And that was BEFORE the Pandemic and big run-up in prices we've experienced over the past few years. Buick had nothing comparable then, and still doesn't. And then there is the Corvette...again, Buick has nothing comparable. Those high-price Chevrolets skew the figures when we compare the brands. I would say that the days of a Buick being more prestigious than a Chevrolet are long gone. It's not 1965 anymore.

Which is what we were thinking when we thought the ICE escape was gonna exit production. But now we're hearing there's a new escape in development. It seems logical to assume it'll stay at the same plant. Meaning Louisville might not have enough untapped production capacity to make all of Ford's affordable EVs, and the ICE escape.

Are they electrified? I thought they were just normal super duties and Ford was just adding another plant to increase production. That's huge news.

Electrified super duties are being built in Oakville exclusively.

It doesn’t matter if it’s once a year or 10 times a year. People don’t want the inconvenience especially on vacation. Especially in remote areas where the nearest charger might be 50 miles away.