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Perhaps they could come up with some kind of joint venture, which would allow them to share resources. I probably wouldn’t buy it back unless I could get at least one of those two brands back, preferably Ram. That way they can rename the trucks back to what they should be🤣

Hmm, you might have got me there…

I totally agree. As mentioned above, Ford has a history of using black appliqués, however they have been integrated nicely as opposed to this large expanse of black, which makes it look unfinished to me. If there was a brake line across the top under the window, it probably would’ve been fine or adding color in some other form somewhere In or around that section. If I bought one of these, I would have it painted body color if it were feasible.

The Hornet has zero character and is so anonymous, yet it is supposed to be sporty? But hey, sales are up 256% this year🤣 it would be interesting to see what it would happen at this actually took place. When somebody has a personal connection to a business, there seems to be a lot more passion involved in trying to be successful.

Like a child that acts out. Negative attention is still attention.

It’s almost the old Ford mantra that you can have it in any color you want as long as it’s black. They have to be adding some more colors, right?

I give it a C- effort, almost a D. There’s no excuse for the black tailgate section as it looks ridiculous on any color other than black. It makes the tailgate look unfinished just like the small screen on the wide dash. If you didn’t want to do Costa to Coast, at least you could’ve put another separate screen on the passenger side to take up some of the unused space. This quite possibly is the most disappointing new Ford product for me since the last Fusion redesign. There’s literally nothing compelling me to buy this vehicle. I can’t see how this vehicle exceeds any of its competitors in any way. Perhaps they could’ve saved the money by skipping the tailgate and put it into more interesting design and features. Talk about squandering the progress made with the introduction of the 2018 model. This was disgraceful product management. I would be embarrassed if I was the program manager for the Expedition.

I personally have always driven a truck, with the exception of a few years of my driving life. If you have not driven trucks before, I think you will be very pleased with the experience. I drive Ford trucks and we are on a Ford site so I’m going to suggest you drive one of those as well. Ford knows what they are doing with trucks.

I typically would agree with your assertion regarding the GM interiors, but their recent refreshes may have solved some of those issues so it might be worth another look. Regarding the QX 80, we had one and I found the interior quality to be decent however, I could never find the ideal driving position because the seat would not go back far enough for me. There was also a lot of engine noise, which may be solved by their 3.5 L instead of their V-8. Additionally, the thing felt like it was built like a tin can. The doors were light, unlike my F150, which sounds like a tank when you close the doors. All of those issues may have been addressed in the redesign though. Toyota didn’t miss an opportunity capitalize with their half assed effort. We are no longer in the market for full-size SUVs, due to my wife looking for smaller SUVs, but if we were, it would likely be a GMC Denali. I’m glad we’re not buying a full-size SUV, because all of my friends would be giving me such a rash of crap, lol. I always blame my wife though, when we buy a non- Ford product🤣

I think that’s a fair assessment. Perhaps it’s aKirby‘s suggestion that Ford is content with the level of sales they have with the expedition due to favoring production capacity for the super duty, which makes more money. I just can’t think of any other reason why they would put such little effort into this model, with exception of the 2018 model, which I would’ve classified as an all new model. I just don’t foresee the 2025 model significantly increasing sales, when there are several other new models out there that have more features. I’m not suggesting the 2025 is a POS, or necessarily ugly, but it wouldn’t be at the top of my list of full-size SUVs to purchase, even as a staunch Ford guy. That really pains me to say that.

Perhaps the 2028 model will actually be an all new model, which could accommodate the hybrid powertrain.

Apparently their price changes weren’t going so well. I sure as hell wouldn’t pay the old prices. Apparently some Americans don’t mind driving themselves.

I think “all new” is a bit of a stretch.

Or just build them here in the same plant that used to build them🤷

Exactly