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It'll be curious to see if mustang gets a new platform post s650, or if they just modify the existing platform they have. I'd keep the rest seats to keep insurance costs down, and maybe to use for people who have toddlers or something. But what I'd really like to see is just for Ford to improve on what they already have. Lower the roof and beltline slightly, this was apparently considered for s650, but wasn't in the budget. Shorten the overhangs, especially the front overhang, stretch the wheelbase an inch or a couple of inches, give it a more prominent dash to axle ratio. This would not only make the mustang look more exotic, if would give them more space behind the front wheels to maybe develop a front-mid engine layout, which would obviously improve performance significantly. The Ecoboost s650 is apparently a front mid layout already, or so I've been told, so a front-mid 5.0 shouldn't be impossible if they had more roof to work with.

Yeah that's not ideal. Maybe they were concerned about the aspect ratio and didn't want the image to be stretched and distorted horizontally?

Some people seem to want technology for the sake of having technology, it's weird. Instead of having tech for tech's sake, they need to ask what's the best solution for the job. Sometimes it's even less tech and complexity than what you already have.

But we'll see what Ford does with the CE1 truck and utility. I've mentioned a few times how one of the coolest ways Ford could make CE1 into more aspirational products is by offering a ton of customization and accessories to really make those evs stand out. Not to mention accessories generate a ton of profit, which is really helpful if brands want to make EVs actually profitable long term. This level of customization is exactly what I'd love to see on Ford affordable EVs.

I get where you're coming from. It's mostly the customization and accessories that saved this thing for me, I just like really unique approaches like that. It's kinda like how I thought the maverick was cool when I saw the prototypes, but what made me actually buy one was the hybrid. The prospect of owning not just a small affordable truck, but one that was getting 45-60 mpg in warmer weather, and used a super proven and durable hybrid system, that's what turned the maverick into a must have. Whereas for this thing, I thought the idea was cool, I was mixed on the design when I saw it for the first time. But seeing all the insane customization and personalization you can do, something that you can't find with basically any other EV right now, massively improved the appeal factor of this product for me personally. I just really like when people enter a proven segment, like trucks, but find a really unique way to spin the idea and differentiate themselves. It doesn't always work out, but I like seeing the cool ideas on display.

You're missing the point where I say we'll just have to agree to disagree lol.

It's a heck of a lot faster than the smaller trucks from the 80s and 90s this thing is clearly inspired by. A Chevy s-10, Ford ranger, or Nissan pickup did 0-60 in like 3-5 business days. That didn't stop people from slamming them, putting spoilers on them, and other sorts of cool street car builds. It's all relative, 8 seconds is slow for a sports car, but halfway decent for a super cheap truck inspired by 80s trucks. Stop trying to dunk on this thing, we aren't gonna agree. It's clear you don't like it, but I do. Small, cheerful, super customizable new cars are exactly the thing we need more of in modern society, I'm not gonna nit pick the one company that on paper just gave us what no-one else could. People always ask for cheap, fun cars, but then want the range, performance, and build quality of a 50k car. You can't have both. As far as I'm concerned, we need more EVs like this and I'll applaud it all day long even if it's not perfect.

Without the insane customization this thing offers, I'd agree with you. But the fact that you can do so much to it, including adding things like a touchscreen and power Windows if you want, it strikes a really good balance between affordability and personalization. There are a significant number of car owners who find the idea of a basic affordable car appealing, and a car that's very customizable appealing. This rather unique approach of having such a basic, affordable car that's so easy, yet radical to customize is gonna find some audience I believe. This has never been done at this level from any car company I've seen, the majority of cars have no accessory support from the factory. The rest are pretty limited, a wing here, maybe a roof rack there. I've never seen something as radical as a car company offering kits that completely change the body style, lift kits, lowering kits, wheel spacers, and so much more. That's gonna make a lot of people say hell yeah.

Check out this wall showing just a few ways this thing can be customized. This is smart as hell, that lowered street truck build especially is the coolest shit I've seen on an EV in a long time. If this company doesn't fold like a lawn chair, and actually makes it not a complete pain in the ass to own and service these things, I'm all in.

I swear to God if this fails, I'll never listen to car enthusiasts again on what they want to buy lol. 2 door, very small, extremely affordable, no infotainment screen, crank windows. My God, it's literally a wet dream for all the things enthusiasts say they want. If this company shows signs that it's gonna endure, and not fold like so many startups do, I'm VERY strongly considering buying one of these.

If it's what Ford has to do to make road going performance models in the future, it's what needs to be done. I'd rather live in a world with a mustang sedan and mustang supercar than in a world full of edges and escapes.

Some of these aren't terrible, especially with some tweaks. The ideas of a mustang wagon and mid-engine exotic both make a ton of sense if Ford wants to offer more mustang body styles. I'd really love if ford did something like this, like revealed an entire range of mustang products, sedans, coupes, mid-engine, electric, etc, to gauge the public's reaction. How cool would that be?

I'm actually kinda excited to see where this leads. People are still very passionate about cars, including a significant portion of young people, but they want things that are smaller, and more affordable. I can see fun, affordable cars with character becoming more of a thing in the near future. We've reached peak truck size, and probably peak truck cost. People can't afford these things anymore, and they're getting to the point where they quite literally can't fit into a garage or parking space. Something needs to give. Pretty much all the cool stuff you'll find comes in the form of smaller vehicles anyway.

Like what if Ford used areo design to reimagine what a family sedan could look like. Something that looks less like a fusion, and more like a supercar. This, but toned down for production would be really cool. Make the wheels a bit smaller, the roof a little taller, but you see what I have in mind. The fact that the guy who penned the Ford GT and F1 engineers are all working together to come up with the look has me cautiously optimistic.

I've thrown the idea out a few times in the past, but we know areo is a huge factor with these EVs. I kinda hope Ford says "If we need to lean into radical areo, let's use that as justification to make vehicles that look really striking". Most affordable compact cars look pretty bland, and generic, but Farley has implied that won't be the case for CE1 EVs. "They won't look anything like people expect, I don't know how people will react, I don't know how you'll react" "We still want them to be emotional products, they won't look like toasters on wheels" Just a few quotes from Farley on the styling these CE1 EVs will offer. My guess is they're gonna be very polarizing upon release, a lot of people will love them, a lot of people will say they're ugly. But they won't look generic is my guess.