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These sound like the kind of names you'd get if you asked a bunch of 5 year olds to name the class pet lol. I hate it, and love it at the same time.

https://www.autonews.com/ford/ane-ford-new-cars-europe-0716/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Newsletter-ANEDaily-20250718 This article shared with me said the first of these car models will arrive in 2027. CE1 products are gonna start to be rolled out in 2026 and 2027. We've also heard this CE1 platform is underpinning car body styles, a sedan specifically has been talked about and shown to dealers in rendering form. It sounds like those cars have since been greenlit and that's what we're hearing about. We've been hearing about the CE1 truck forever, but there's a whole product line that's gonna use this platform. So it stands to reason we'll start to head more about those sorts of products right about now.

With us hearing how the skunkworks EVs are gonna come out in 2026 and 2027, and now getting this news that these car models will arrive in 2027, and how this skunkworks platform can accommodate 8 different body styles, I believe we're gonna get some CE1 sedans and hatchbacks.

Yeah you're probably right. While they could redesign things like the engine bay to give it more space to accommodate a bigger engine with a next generation bronco, if those CAFE standards were out back into place, it would all be for nothing.

Agreed, I don't believe Ford needs to have 7 different types of sedans and hatchbacks on sale, 2-3 good ones should be enough. For a sedan, we're all looking forward to the mustang sedan. As for a hatchback, either using C2 or CE1 as a base, it would be really cool if Ford gave us a sharp, almost like muscle car hatch instead of some boring generic blob on wheels. Something that took styling inspiration from the 90s escorts or the fox body. Give it exaggerated flared fenders, a sport roofline, a muscular front end inspired by the s650. A hatchback that people actually aspire to own, that isn't dorky for lack of a better word. Like the coolest and best looking hatchback you've ever seen in your life, and it starts at 30 grand. Maybe it starts off FWD to appeal to a mainstream audience with around 200 hp, but higher performance variants could add the larger electric motor from a mach-e gt or something, giving it a rear biased AWD setup with north of 400 hp. To boost profits, Ford could sell accessories like aftermarket wings and modern takes on rally lights, mud flaps, things of that nature. It would really be a captivating product for Ford's aspirational vehicle lineup.

I really like this aerodynamic pass though on the hood, very similar to what the charger EV has. As brands keep pushing to make vehicles more areo efficient, adding this allows them to improve efficiency, while retaining the more upright design a lot of people like. I really hope this sort of feature makes its way to other designs like our full sized bronco, trucks, and even the mustang.

https://carbuzz.com/ford-promises-passenger-cars-will-return/ Looks like Ford's gravitating back towards cars to a degree. This is just Europe for now, we'll see if this carries over into our market as well. I'd love if Ford brought that same passion they have with things like bronco and mustang into a new hatchback. Give us something special.

So basically confirmation Fords getting back into the car game. This is fantastic news. Ford as talking about how they could see low slung non crossover models making a return to Ford's lineup as EVs after the puma, and vw twins were launched. Seems like that's moving forward.

Agreed, it's funny how we both thought of the bronco. It's radical, but I've always wanted to see a V8 bronco, like a bronco raptor r. Maybe with these changes Ford will consider making something like that for a few years. But offering more v6 broncos would also be really cool.

https://fordauthority.com/2025/07/trump-bill-allows-ford-to-get-away-scot-free-with-cafe-violations/ Apparently this will go into place starting in September. It's hard to say how much of an impact this sort of thing will have. Internally, Ford's probably still planning on meeting those efficiency targets anticipating for them to be reinstated at some point in the future. But who knows, it could influence some of Ford's future product decisions.

Well in your example you're comparing a family car to a sports car. I'm comparing a crossover to a crossover. You're right, going EV doesn't automatically assume something will be better looking, but it gives you more packaging flexibility. With EVs, you have offer a lower, more curvaceous hood, really push the wheels out to the corners, reduce the size of the overhangs. So there are a lot of things about EVs that lend themselves to being able to create a better looking design. I'm in the minority here, but I've said before how I wouldn't mind if the next gen escape adopted a baby mach-e look, essentially becoming Ford's Macan, a smaller, more affordable take on the street performance crossover to slot beneath the mach-e. That way, the bronco sport and escape are both iconic, appealing products, that go after drastically different audiences. I like the rugged and boxy look, but I also argue some enthusiasts want a more rounded, coupe like SUV shape, and Ford isn't doing much to appeal to that crowd beyond the mach-e. This is a $35k Chinese EV that was recently revealed, if the next escape looked anything like this, Ford would have a winner.

Agreed. Ford struck gold with the 2.5 hybrid, they should keep building in and improving hybrid systems like that. The higher tow rating and AWD capability in the newer maverick hybrid is definitely a step in the right direction.

EREV seems to be the way to go with larger vehicles. As for towing, that's really only an issue with large EVs because charging on a road trip is a pain in the ass. With EREVs where the gas powertrain is what you're relying on for longer road trips, it's not a big deal because you just top off like every other ICE vehicle at a fuel station, so towing is a none issue. It's only an issue if recovering that range is a pain like it can be with an EV.

It's definitely gonna be a challenge without a doubt. Correct me if I'm wrong, but from my understanding, the biggest selling point of EREVs especially larger EVs, is because they still have ICE powertrains as generators, the battery packs themselves are much smaller than larger pure EVs, which means these larger EREVS are far more affordable than large pure EVs. I believe Ford was saying they believe their EREVs will be able to sell for about the same price as a nice hybrid. If that's true, I can see the appeal of those types of vehicles. Having a smaller battery so you enjoy all electric driving during short drives, while having the gas powertrain during longer trips sounds like a really good solution for people who want an EV, but also want to take long road trips without worrying about having to charge.

I believe EREVs are a good choice for larger vehicles, but for small, light, areo dynamic vehicles, that's basically the perfect use case for EVs. Apparently a lot of modern apartments are being built with charging stations in mind, or give tenants the option to have a charging station installed at their parking space if they pay for it. We'll see how that works out. It's also worth noting all future Ford EVs will have access to Tesla superchargers which are everywhere, and we're see a lot of charging stations pop up at work locations, restaurants, movie theaters, and shopping centers. Do you can pretty much charge your EV wherever you go. I'm not as concerned about the availability of chargers as much as I was 10 years ago.