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You’re right, the 2.7 would be great but is it really necessary when the 2.3 runs 0 to 60 in 4.5? That’s amazing for a 4 cylinder. It would demolish any V-8 Mustangs prior to the OHC 5.0.

“97% of climate scientists” cranking out report after report funded by the green movement.

There is no proof that the vast majority of “scientists” believe that man is contributing to climate change. The climate has always been and will always be changing. The only constant is change. Your funded by the oil industry comment is comical as we are bombarded daily by “scientific”studies with pre-ordained results paid for by the green movement and governments. They far exceed anything put out by the oil industry.

The vehicles Californians are buying and the amount of miles they're driving them would suggest you don’t know what you’re talking about.

Yes, but those investment totals are just a fraction of what Rivian will need to successfully bring a vehicle to market. I’m guessing they haven’t been made yet (at least all of dollars) but will occur over a period of years depending on Rivian’s progress forward.

I can’t imagine the USPS taking a chance on a new vehicle from a start-up. Rivian may become a successful company but they may be bankrupt in a few years.

You don’t even have to mention “prototype”. That’s all Rivian has. In this case, a drawing of what they think a prototype would look like.

Hybrid model (available next spring) reviews coming Thursday. AutoWeek mentioned it’s the model to buy.

Gas struts??? Public enemy no.1. I can’t believe Ford wouldn’t use prop rods in place of these hideous devices!

Electric cars should have to disclose range for cold weather (such as zero degrees). If in fact efficiency is cut in half during cold weather, that is the effective range. So 165 miles for the Mach E. 330 miles is probably enough for me to replace a gas car but 165 isn’t.

I’m gonna challenge you on little/no incentives. Ford is advertising 2.7 F150’s with over $11,000 in rebates and average dealer discounts. Also big rebates on Edge, Escape, and Fusion. Not that its a huge deal, but I see Moodys has reduced Fords credit rating to junk status.

You’re right it can replace many uses of pick-up trucks, but sales numbers over the years indicate it hasn’t.

Expedition selling at half the rate of Edge is impressive (and very profitable for Ford). Edge sales last month responding to hefty incentives.

The 2.3 is a much better value and the 4WD models have almost the same mileage. I’d take the 2.3 over the coarse 3.3 even if they were priced the same.

Yikes! 781 pounds heavier than the gas only model. Doesn’t sound like its worth the extra cash. Maybe that changes with further development of the hybrid power plant.