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So spend for the best, and get the cheap engine? Urrggg, I call that "mediocre rich"....like my uncle who would by an S-Class, just to say he had an S-class and yet smallest engine and no options. As Bzcat said, force the upsell. Honestly at that price point, the buyer wouldn't care anyways. So how can Platinum be Plantinum, when it's tarnished by the cheap engine, wouldn't that makes it "Titanium"... since it's cheaper than Platinum... right?

I wonder how the Chinese version was updated...we usually get the crumbs...

At this point there's no excuse for a bad ride or wind noise. Escalade always shoots for the stars, and Navigator just barely reaches it each time. If Ford was serious, this would have been over the top.

If I had to get a BL Nautilus, currently neither color would do. I don't care for red interiors, nor light beige/white interiors. Granted, I like how it looks, I can't live with it. I'm curious about this "Aurora" combination, I do like blue...Although they do make a Blue/Black interior for the regular Nautilus which I actually like.

Stellantis is nothing more than the orphaned children of the automotive world that no one wanted... a collection of the most unreliable brands that couldn't find much of a parent that cares...where's the hanger?? Weren't they crashing some months ago...?

To add...contains a few more details and numbers... The Drive

And sadly, they introduce the same engine without any upgrade in power. But you gotta please the "there's no replacement for displacement" crowd, so have at it... And yes, from my experience, the RAM buyer is very different from the Ford buyer. From fellow friends, it's the ones with bad credit who were denied by Ford and GM, and ended up with a RAM.

Yup, this will be the year of trim packages....

What's a BZ Woodland? A Forest.... 🤣 Couldn't help myself, manufacturer's will throw some names out there without thinking it through. Don't get me started on "Scat Pack" either...

At this point, all Miss Cleo sees is maybe a trim package here and there, and more recalls...

To add, I believe one story was from a well known football player. All these items are to "assist" not to "rely" on, yes there are traditional ways we always use, but never hurts to have an extra set of eyes.

That's one thing I keep hearing from the repeat Nautilus buyers...the new Nautilus lost the 2.7L V6T and they miss having that power, the Hybrid one isn't cutting it. Doubt Ford will put any more energy into that vehicle since it's doing so well.

Car And Driver.com

And to think that's the stuff you actually see and use...what about the things you don't see... I can see them removing insulation, and some other "hmm not totally necessary" pieces.

.."in other news, the sky is blue"... Talk about a story about not being a story... 🙄 Well it could...Hmm the Conti could come back, a minivan could come back, everything is on the table. 🤣 That's how desperate people are about hearing from Ford about future products....