akirby

I don’t think they added that until 2019 and no it can’t be upgraded.

He was talking about home builders.....

$14K on a 2020 or leftover 2019? Maybe you should ask why they need a $14K discount to sell them.

Seems like a good deal to me. SEL is only a $2200 upgrade but you get the lift gate, Fog lights, 18” wheels, memory mirrors, remote start, reverse sensing, heated leather steering wheel,one touch up/down windows and upgraded seats.

Not sure about cheapest but I would love to see them offer an extra $2k rebate to get you out of the vehicle and into a new and/or different one. Otherwise it’s just a normal trade-in. I also think if you have multiple or major problems that can’t be solved easily and quickly during the first 6 months they should buy it back and give you a new one for just the cost of your monthly payments. Same as lemon law but voluntarily and without hassle. They’ve done it in some cases but not others.

They’re only liable to the extent of the limited warranty. That’s why it’s called a limited warranty. Otherwise it would be a lifetime warranty, The way you hold the mfr to a higher standard is you stop buying their vehicles. And I certainly don’t blame anyone who refuses to buy a new Ford because of those issues. Just like I refuse to buy Sony TVs.

That I agree with both during development and when they had the opportunity to switch to the 6f35 but didn’t. I’m not letting Ford off the hook here for screwing up. I’m just saying there is no legal recourse outside of the factory warranty.

1 - I didn’t want the 3.7L. It was literally the only vehicle available in stock in our area that had everything else we wanted and we didn’t want to wait to order one. I would prefer an ecoboost but I’m not unhappy with the 3.7L. We had an Edge with the 3.5L for 6 years. 2 - I have NEVER EVER told anyone to buy an extended warranty. In fact I tell people NOT to buy them if you want to save money in the long run. So I don’t know where you got that idea.

Who said you had to buy a new one? Sell it and you can easily buy a used model from a different mfr without spending any additional money. And I’m well aware of the water pump issue. I will change the coolant at 40k miles and if it dies before we trade it And it’s out of factory warranty then I’ll suck it up because I never buy extended warranties. I had a Sony flat screen TV. It died with exactly the same symptom as other similar Sony TVs that were given extended warranties by Sony. But my model was not included. I bought a Samsung and never looked back. Nobody is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to drive something you don’t like.

Wrong again. That only applies to cases involving injury, property damage or death.

There is no difference. A defect is a defect and a warranty is a warranty. If there is a recurring problem (for whatever reason) you have to decide if it’s worth keeping it and repairing it (or getting an extended warranty) or walking away from it. Now I’ve always said Ford should extend the factory warranty on certain things and sometimes they do. But they are not legally obligated to do that. It’s an appliance. If you don’t like it get rid of it.

Like T hawker says the 360 camera shows you the sides very clearly.

No that feature doesn't exist but I've never missed it especially with the rear view camera.

FTFY

We traded daughter's 2012 in 2016 and got $8K for it with 70K miles. I thought it was a fair price given the mileage.