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And? If I’m selling 1 million trucks a year what difference does it make whether they sit on the lot 10 days or 80 days?

I rest my case.

Would you get on a plane if there was only a 99.6% chance of not crashing? That means 4 planes out of 1000 crash, or about 160 crashes every day.

That says nothing about whether they are counting vehicles correctly from every mfr. As an example, some custom ordered vehicles never show up on the dealer's website, so I'm pretty sure they wouldn't show up on iseecars.com.

We know nothing about how and where iseecars.com gets their data so we have no idea whether this data is valid or not. We don't know if they see all vehicles or just a subset. Maybe they don't include Ford special orders or vehicles that sell within a few days. Does it include discontinued vehicles? Inconclusive at best.

Yes. Anything bad that happens is Trump's fault even if he did everything reasonable to stop it or had no influence on it. People are also mad at our Governer in GA because he won't mandate masks. As if the people who currently refuse to wear one will suddenly start wearing one because the government says they have to. It's the same people who mistakenly think that outlawing AR-15s will somehow stop people from wanting to kill other innocent people. They like to pass laws because it makes them feel better even if the laws don't accomplish the intended outcome.

I don't mean just styling, I mean attention to detail, materials, performance, electrification, etc. And Aviator was on the shelf when Hackett took over thanks to Fields. If not for Hackett we'd still have the old D3 Explorer and no Aviator.

Ive had it on 3 or 4 vehicles. I played with it a couple of times and just set it to blue and left it.

Methodology iSeeCars.com analyzed over 4.8 million car sales (model years 2019-2021 for new cars; model years 2015-2019 for used cars) from November 2019 through February 2020 and another set of 4.4 million car sales (same model years) from March through June 2020. Sales made between November 2019 and February 2020 were considered sold during a pre-COVID period; the study focused largely on sales made between March and June 2020. The number of days that each car was listed for sale on iSeeCars.com was aggregated at the model level, and the average days on market for each was mathematically modeled.

When you go from 11.5% retail share to 17.5% that’s not done with PIU sales.

Commercial Fleet sales were down 78% in Q2 which would include PIUs. Most of these gains were retail sales.

Hard to say they F'ed up when sales were up 12% during a pandemic where everything else was down double digits and they had their best retail sales quarter ever. But in the end it's just semantics. They set prices higher than expected and are now lowering base prices. But let me ask you this - if they had sold 75K per quarter do you think they would be reducing base prices today? I seriously doubt it.

That's EXACTLY WHAT I SAID. They priced it high and now they're adjusting it. Why are you arguing?

Apples and oranges. Most of those are 2 rows. Look at what I posted above for the 3 row utilities.

Q2 sales (3 row utilities) Explorer 45k Pilot. 31K Traverse 22K All others < 20K