akirby

Apparently you’ve been living under a rock the last two years.

Seems like a no brainer.

Convoy doesn’t necessarily mean truck. Ignore it.

Well I agree that each dealer SHOULD get at least 1 vehicle each scheduling period for COVP orders. Or at least do the allocations by order date. But this is how Ford has always handled allocations between dealers. The bigger dealers bring in the most profit so they get preferential treatment. Ford tried to buck this trend with Bronco building by order date regardless of dealer, but dealers pushed back big time. And remember, if Ford was building normally these COVP orders would get allocation and scheduled very quickly. They’re stuck between a rock and a hard place.

It will eventually apply to ICE as well. It’s just an easier sell for BEVs due to limited volume and limited batteries and the unique things that dealers have to do. My guess is Google is developing a new integrated ordering and tracking system for Model E that will later be adapted to ICE.

Its just an appearance package. Started in Europe.

And who said there weren’t? The point was Kia and others aren’t much different than Ford right now.

They're giving customers the option of deleting the options to speed up builds or waiting. Your choice. Waiting on a Ford is no different than waiting on anything else. You made your rant, no need to keep harping on it. Move along.

On the Telluride forums there are orders from late 2021 that haven’t been built and will likely roll over to 2023. But yeah, this doesn’t affect Kia.

Nothing wrong with a Telluride. The issue is your insistence that this isn’t affecting all mfrs when it’s been widely reported otherwise as well as other member's personal experiences.

Thats exactly what I said. Allocation (in the normal nomenclature) isn’t the issue. Normally you’d only have 500 retail orders to be scheduled out of 8k each week. They would get incremental allocation and all 500 would get scheduled. The rest would go by normal dealer allocation. But there are more than 8k orders so there has to be some type of limit per dealer.

Don’t be surprised if your Kia gets delayed and/or they add $10k when it arrives.

I’d buy that one in a heartbeat. I think it looks far better than the short bed on a crew cab. Maybe a 6.5’ foot bed on a supercab?

All for it but the wording seems vague on what it would actually prohibit. My ideas are to force dealers to provide a signed buyers agreement showing the exact sale price and any fees. Cap doc fees and make add-ons strictly optional where the buyer must opt in not opt out.

0-60 6.1 seconds? WTF?