akirby

Just stop. You’re the one obsessed with maximum efficiency. You claim you aren’t but that’s all you post about. Consumers have proven without a doubt they’re willing to forego some efficiency and pay a little more for more utility and boxier styling. To claim otherwise is silly which is why you get pushback on those statements. It’s borderline trolling. So knock it off.

Correct. Our 2014 Escape is fine.

30 day vacation for you. Your trolling has gotten ridiculous.

Thats what I meant by advertising. If it’s really driving sales especially higher priced vehicles then I get that, but I think most people would rather just have a cheaper model decently equipped than a more expensive base model. Plus the ones I remember was only a $1000-$1500 difference. Not $4K.

Did consumers really buy a lot of base models or were they mostly just for government and rental fleet sales and for advertising purposes? I think most buyers would opt for the next higher trim which is usually just a couple thousand more (sometimes less).

Meh

Ford really screwed the pooch when they allowed Europe and North America to do their own thing pre Mulally. Had they gone global with C1 everywhere it could have evolved into C2 and had they gone ahead with global RWD unibody back in 2003 the product portfolio might look a lot different.

Check on the side behind the fender as opposed to underneath the dash. May have a cover.

I can agree with that. Daughter’s escape is 10 yrs old. Still looks and drives great. Gotta disagree on that one. People in the 90s were buying new Accords and Camrys and Civics and Corollas every 3-4 years even though they were pretty much bullet proof.

I would suspect a loose connection or broken wire.

You should be asking the dealer parts dept or ford parts.com.

We’ll know based on sales volume and inventory after the 23s are cleared out. If they lose 20k buyers but gain 20k new ones then it’s a moot point.

Bingo. Especially for folks who lease. I can only laugh about rperez817 pointing out that Tesla was making 30 changes per day.

I’ve been saying for years that Tesla was cutting costs by not doing regular refreshes and redesigns and eventually that would catch up with them.

I wonder what Robert Lane has to say about that. He used to work for Shelby.

Based on initial feedback from Lincoln Nautilus Facebook groups and forums, your assessment is correct. Most don’t know, most of the ones who know don’t care and only a few who were actually planning to buy one are backing out.

As I said before, Musk’s ego - which is the only reason the thing ever made it past the prototype stage to begin with - will keep it around at least a year, maybe more.

Oakville can easily be redirected to continue with ICE if that’s the direction they want to go. In addition to Nautilus and Edge you could move Corsair and possibly even Escape there freeing up Louisville for the new EVs. That makes BOC, Louisville and Cuatitlan to make EVs along with Lightning at the F150 plant if they continue it for Ford Pro. And I don’t see any new PHEVs, just hybrids for everything and Oakville has a battery supplier.

I was also referring to other resources needed to build and sell a new vehicle here. Engineering, design, testing, certification, marketing plus all the normal overhead. People often think it’s just factory space but every vehicle has dozens if not hundreds of dedicated employees supporting it. I agree that Oakville could and should be used for Nautilus and Edge and other C2 products if needed. Just cancel the 3 row EVs.

Don’t let facts get in the way of your lies. I already pointed out all the new vehicles Ford launched to replace the ones they cancelled. And Ranger is competitive now and will be even better when production is fully ramped up.

Toyota only sold 8M vehicles in 2023. 1/3 of that volume and half their profits came from Japan which is a closed market where Ford isn’t allowed to compete fairly. I understand the disappointment but Europe and South America have been shit shows for Ford financially, even when they had decent products.

Temporary fix if it works. Might last a few minutes might last a few months but it probably needs to be replaced if that’s the problem.

All these Ford needs and Ford should build are strictly emotional desires with zero business rationale. You can’t bring back Focus without killing either an existing product or the new cheaper EVs. So which one are you killing?

Stop taking the luxury pickup thing so literally. I was just trying to make the point that different brands do different things. Taurus was a huge seller but made no profit. It was propped up by rental volume. The entire Hapeville plant made nothing but rental cars the last few years. Again you’re confusing sales with profits. You can say Ford can’t sell higher priced vehicles but that’s exactly what they’re doing and doing it well. If they had warranty costs under control it would be even better. You can’t blame a company for playing to their strengths and maximizing their returns just because they’re not building what you like.

Suburban had a long history before Expedition and Excursion. Plus GM brand loyalty. Hard to dethrone the market leader even with great products.