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Niece wants a new Bronco. Anyone know how Costco pricing compares with X-plan pricing? May just go to two different dealers and find out since the vehicles seem to be broadly available, but thought I'd ask here first. Thanks!

They have a weird tendency to include things on lower models and exclude them from their flagship models. Case in point: for years, the Fusion had a better infotainment system than the Expy/Nav. Was so irritating.

Good catch. That’s just an odd omission.

Interesting that they have no 40/20/40 bench options for the second row for Black Label but it’s not mentioned as a change. There’s only one option now for the second row of Black Label. An unfortunate choice as I need a second row bench.

Dealer said they followed this bulletin. Let’s see if it does anything.

My 21 Navigator recently started entering deep sleep mode after anywhere from a few hours to a few days. Nothing in the vehicle is on. It is inconsistent as sometimes it will work fine for a week and then a day or two later, deep sleep, and then work fine again for another week or two. I don't always get the deep sleep message on the app, but I know when it occurs as I am unable to start the car from the app (says to start the car and reconnect to "FordPass" - yes, the Lincoln app says "FordPass"). At the dealer now and they can't find anything wrong. Had this issue a few months ago and they found the battery had a bad cell and replaced it, but now it's happening again and everything checks out fine. Any thoughts on what I should check? My dashcam and radar detector are connected to a fuse that turns off with the engine, so they aren't pulling power (and even if they were, why did this just start now when I have the same setup I had since I got the vehicle in 21?). Thanks!

Thanks everyone. I’m checking with another dealer in the area to see what they want. Doubt having the lease as an X plan will hold any sway. I’m buying a few months before the lease ends as registration is due before then and lease registration is much more expensive than a financed vehicle. Anecdotally, this dealership sold my sister a Nautilus on X plan and the only one they had included a dealer installed “appearance package” which was nothing more than a clear sticker on the tailgate, door edge guards, and some other nonsense. Cost? $999. It was already installed and she needed the car so she sucked it up and paid it.

My Navigator lease is ending and I want to purchase the vehicle. It is leased through Lincoln Automotive and they are telling me I have to purchase it through a dealer. My local dealer wants an $800 "documentation fee" on top of the lease payoff. Sounds like a garbage fee to me. Anyone have any experience with this? EDIT: Dealership explains the fee as follows (confirming my suspicion as I didn't pay it with X-plan when the initial lease was done): The doc fee is on every deal whether cash or financing, I cannot take that off as that is corporate policy and everyone including employees must pay it. It essentially keeps the dealership running, funds the free snacks in our service lounge and allows us to have a number of dealership perks for our clients.

My lease on my 21 ends in January. I may purchase it and wait for the refresh. Not sure I want to get the last MY of the current design. Will see what happens later this year for the 24 MY.

I have (almost) the same issue. I hang the second key fob in my garage so that I can easily unlock doors/start the car/open tailgate when in the garage. Every time I open the garage door, the fob is recognized and running boards/lights activate. Haven't found a solution.

I had one of the first 2018s (first year of the current style) and now have a 21 Reserve 4x2. Very happy with both. I'm not aware of any major issues. Feel free to ask questions - we are happy to help however we can. Good luck and welcome!

That’s pretty cool (no pun intended). Had no idea that feature existed. ?

My 2021 Nav recently started providing me with an annoying rear seat occupant alert whenever I turn the engine off. I found no way to turn it off. Went to the dealer a few weeks ago and they updated sync software as part of regular maintenance and there was suddenly an option to turn it off. But now the option is gone again. Any ideas what’s going on with this? I’m guessing an automatic system update was applied, but why would that be older than what the dealer installed?

Something is definitely amiss. I am in South Florida and my AC works year round and I’ve never experienced that. Recently had the evaporator die (at the start of a long road trip, naturally). In my experience, the thermostat just indicates at what temperature the air comes out based on the current temperature and also controls the fan speed when set to auto. I believe all Max Cold does is turn the fan on high, temperature to Lo, and turn on cabin air recirculating. Have it checked out.

I have a 2021 Navigator 4x2 Reserve and plan on towing a small 4x8 U-Haul trailer. I have never towed anything before and wanted to know if there was anything I needed to be aware of or purchase to hook up a trailer. I know the Nav has a Class IV hitch installed but was wondering if there are any cables or anything else I need to purchase so I don't get scammed by U-Haul into buying unnecessary stuff. Thanks!