Bob Rosadini

Like I said -clueless...And speaking of badging, look at the badges on Ram and GM pick ups.. they say..."Look at me"! Ford, my 22 F-150 STX had some chrome and a touch of red paint on the fender vent-not bad. My 23? Black plastic! My youngest son has a loaded V-6 Bronco...Badge? a "Paper/plastic patch. My oldest son, a 24or25? Tremor 150 with all kinds of badging-and I don't think it was that much more than the loaded Bronco.

Makes no sense?? 7M that just shows how clueless they are-or they either truly intend to exit 6 and 7 when the next UAW contract comes due (when is that?) or they may have a totally new product that shares components with E-series and full range of class 4 to 7. and they are not willing to spend any funds on keeping the steel cab going in short term. As for failure for Ca dealers to stock 7.3 650/750 I can't believe the pricing on the 7.3 version of those conventionals is not a huge attraction. The lack of air brakes I'm sure is a factor but here in New England but there are plenty of 650/750 gas trucks on road and in dealer lots and a hire percentage of them are set up with dump bodies- and with light plugs and pintle hooks As for the Cummins Octane, is the cost savings vs diesel insignificant??

Agree, but I would guess the crapshoot is based on trying to guess what the Feds are going to dictate??🤔

Seems to me, if they are not doing an electric, and if objective is to build a cost leader, what is the point of adding another ICE truck. I'm all for ICE but from a market objective, what is the point? What market does the present slate NOT address? I'm thinking, who needs a bare bones single cab truck? Parts houses? Advance Auto, Auto Zone, and a big regional parts house next to my town each have 2 or 3 parts "runners". Canyons, Transit Connects etc. Why not offer a rear seat delete option on Maverick? Done deal. Appears to me idea of another truck is a knee jerk reaction to utilize another plant that is perhaps too far along to cancel or just delay.

I do believe he did. And in retirement he has been getting all kinds of wild numbers out of it. If you google him on You Tube there is a lot of info on him

When you follow this, again the language doesn't always track with the graphics....why can't these guys just tell the story without all the misleading images..all kinds of OHC shots, even a picture of an inline engine🤔 And what I come away with, a 7.0 pushrod? When they have a clean sheet of paper 7.3/6.8? For sure if the 7.0 is a reality it must have significant benefits over the Godzilla which I still think of as a new engine. And the story is supported about significant design improvements focused on durability over any of the current offerings to say nothing of power gains including more low end grunt- so again justification for what might mean a replacement for the 6.8/7.3 This then leads to the discussion of the benefits over current diesel technology, and the discussion shifts to where could it be used...and we hear.." on Super Duty 250, 350, 450." No mention of 550-750🤔 IMO so much for this guys credibility? Or all of his claims about the 7.0's design improvements and HP and Torque figures that match/surpass Godzilla-what is the point??. What did I miss?

Broken record again😎...think of a monster 6.7 Power Stroke under the hood of a 650/750....and to swallow the story we are being fed, they can't solve the under heat issue when a Godzilla takes the place of a 6.7. Educate me please...Higher compression issues in the 6.7 ..Better yet, 6.7 in a 350/450/550/600. in an under hood space that has to be significantly less than the space in a 650/750 tilt hood. Meantime, over on the 7.0 thread........

Air filter behind that.

It is..PDVSA.

Not surprising that Ford is no. 1. Surprised that the International oils are not high on the list. Like ExxonMobil is listed as a founded date of 1999. That was the merger date for Exxon and Mobil. Of course Exxon was Esso which had its birth as Standard Oil and Mobil's roots sprang from the same place..as Socony..or Standard Oil Of NY.

Which is what I keep saying. Absolute BS that they can't overcome the Heat issue to give 7.3 powered 650/750 an air brake option. Truck would have no competition.

I say that is a good bet. Or how about a notch back to accommodate a useful rear seat. like the Fox. I know doesn't foot with "High-Performance Sports Car" but......

Huh? I'll do you one better. Invest in option 3 and invest in cheaper options in classes2-5 that get a return of 300M....yeah I would go for that hypothetical🤪 Again, I'm not talking about building an F1 program... or getting back in class 8..I'm talking about minor changes -like an Allison for the non believers in the toughness of the in-house trans, or getting a Cummins option and price it accordingly..let the buyer decide if its worth it. Look at the 650/750 guides for the last two years and what do they show??? Additions to options?..No deletions!..Sooner or later they will have built a case..." yep or sales are a fraction of what they were..time to get out. Oh and as the great success GM is having with their rebadged Isuzus?... I guess Isuzu can make a buck on the sale to GM and GM can make a buck on their sale to the end user??? And Ford can't make a buck with no middleman? By the way, Same with Navistar building the same truck that is sold as a Chevy or an International? Yeah, I know a real winner... "economy of scale'. Surprised they didn't broaden that appeal by Including.."The Truck People from GMC" as they used to say. Talk about dumb move IMO. By the way, the bi weekly truck rag that covers New England lists plenty of new Chevy and International class 6's...most them '24's. Fire away... have my helmet and flak jacket on😎

With all due respect, if that was the soul corporate objective, the only thing Ford would build would be F-150/250-for sure Lincoln would be gone. As I look at it from the Ford Pro segment, we are led to believe that Ford Pro is a "winner". And assuming "Pro" is defined as the commercial segment..be it a self employed handy man or a big corporate entity, a full slate of vehicles that support that business is critical. This is opposed to the class 8 market, where the bulk of that market is for hire transportation, where moving commodities is the business. Granted many "commercial" entities also have class 8 vehicles in support of their business -"Private Carriage"-a term you often don't hear used today. The bulk of their needs however are in class 1-7. Accordingly I think Ford has to recognize that failing to serve all of that market, will in the long run prove to be a mistake. And to those who say it would take huge sums to expand the offerings in class 6/7 I say that is BS. IMO, it is just a matter of some selective changes.

Agree, I know I'm a broken record but I don't see how they proudly proclaim the contribution Ford Pro makes but they do little to capitalize on a market that Ford was always a big player in.