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Don't feed the trolls! Don't feed the lions.... It's all the same! ha ha ha !
Priceless.
Mike Furrey the best Lions player has the same feeling. I play defense and we suck, I play offense and we suck. Brady Quinn has already pulled an Elway. 200 million dollars If u draft me to play in the most dysfuntional football organization outside of Oakland. Al Davis has probably got alzeheimers and nobodys telling him or afraid. Lions have no excuses. -
lol lol lol
Be real......are you just worried that people with more time will keep you on nights??????????
Nope. SFP and CIS will ensure minimal if any new full-time employees in HVC's. Also its election year and I cant see Chairman giving his Chairmainship away.
Im still waiting for the replacement people from the attrition of the last 2 years. " We are going to have to do more with less" Plant Manager Quote. " " Union Quote -
Bad choice of words on my part, I forget who I'm dealing with. I guess the next guy will say they have 25 machines.
Truth is there should be more than adequate machines depending on the area you work in. That should only be in bulk (pallets, black baskets, metal baskets, heavy boxed parts and loose metal parts).
Bin (bagged/or small parts), no machines- your on foot, not that I haven't seen anyone attempt to get one in there.. ooopss
Obviously your not going to have everyone working Bulk area.
Imao, we shall see after the new year how many postings will be available
People u have a better chance at getting into Augusta National Country Club than the HVC's. 
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LoL, too Funny!
Can you do the Lions. From Barry Sanders to Millen to the suck-ass wr draft picks. Lemon come on I want to see sportscenter, your version of the Lions since Scott Mitchell and that playoff game in the last century. Ford is on the way forward Lions still going backwards 2-12 on the way to 2-14.
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Stay away from #2 since I hear they are presently on one shift, and rumor has it they will be shifting their work somewhere else. It definately sucks to move once, let alone twice.
Lakeland, Fl. well don't we all wish. You would be lucky to be on day shift with 25 years. The other 3 I don't know too much about.
If you've been "bustin your butt for years welding catalytic converters and building driveshafts" get ready for clean work. You either stockkeep (a.m. shift) or pick orders (p.m. shift). Parts are either boxed, bagged or "metal parts" (like catalytic converters) come in metal baskets, like the ones you guys use. 16 years should get you day shift on the East coast if it is offered. D.C. HVC, Hartford Ct, and Cranbury NJ should definately land you on days (sorry guys). Plenty of machines to operate, for ex; forklifts, reachtrucks and stock chasers.
Hope this helps... peace
Temps and maybe 5 Gen guys from Edison wit 27 years. D.C. dont unpack your bags too quick. Ct lookin like more wit less
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First, I just want to say Happy Holidays to my fellow UAW brothers/sisters, and to wish you guys the best of luck on whatever decisions you have chosen. Myself, well, I have chosen to separate after 10 plus but less than 30years.
For those that are sticking around and have a opportunity to post for (Ford's best kept secret) HVC sites, jump for the chance. These are free effort jobs (not tied to a "line", no requesting bathroom calls). It's almost like working in a supermarket (stocking shelves on Am shift/ picking on Pm shift). You work (most) holidays like x-mas week and convert the time to personal days, for ex; instead of working for triple time, you work at double time and the Holiday (8hrs) is banked as a personal day to be used in the future. Nice feature.
Come January you'll need 10 years plus to be days in Wash D.C. , Cranbury NJ, and Hartford CT with all the buyouts. Just think, as long as FoMoCo produces vehicles (no matter what country) you will always need parts.
Good luck to all of you, I'm outta here.
Now cut that check :party2:
U forgot to tell them about the people on layoff at 2 of the 3 hvc's you mentioned. The buyouts at these facilities will probably just get the desired # of workers at each facility.
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IPITY are you getting bored on the EAST coast or did you come across some good s**t.
Just bored. Since I decided to stick it out, trying to find a bright side to this Way forward plan. Sep 2007 is the one thing that has me still on this forum board. Once the Uaw and Ford agree I will be able to make a decision on completion of academic requirements for bachelors and HVAC certificates respectively. PRIDX is now 52 dollars. If anybody listened back in June when it was 42. JH213 i hope u did.
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Profit Sharing Check for 2011 will be close to 10.000 bucks.
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The Workplace Fightback Method that your the workplace committees choose is up to them. Your workplace committee can even mix and match many of different methods. Find out more details about the entire 198 Methods of Nonviolent Action in The Politics of Nonviolent Action Volume 2 by Gene Sharp.
The Methods of Nonviolent Protest and Persuasion
Formal Statements
1. Public Speeches
2. Letters of opposition or support
3. Declarations by organizations and institutions
4. Signed public statements
5. Declarations of indictment and intention
6. Group or mass petitions
Communications with a Wider Audience
7. Slogans, caricatures, and symbols
8. Banners, posters, and displayed communications
9. Leaflets, pamphlets, and books
10. Newspapers and journals
11. Records, radio, and television
12. Skywriting and earthwriting
Group Representations
13. Deputations
14. Mock awards
15. Group lobbying
16. Picketing
17. Mock elections
Symbolic Public Acts
18. Displays of flags and symbolic colors
19. Wearing of symbols
20. Prayer and worship
21. Delivering symbolic objects
22. Protest disrobings
23. Destruction of own property
24. Symbolic lights
25. Displays of portraits
26. Paint as protest
27. New signs and names
28. Symbolic sounds
29. Symbolic reclamations
30. Rude gestures
Pressures on Individuals
31. "Haunting" officials
32. Taunting officials
33. Fraternization
34. Vigils
Drama and Music
35. Humorous skits and pranks
36. Performances of plays and music
37. Singing
Processions
38. Marches
39. Parades
40. Religious processions
41. Pilgrimages
42. Motorcades
Honoring the Dead
43. Political mourning
44. Mock funerals
45. Demonstrative funerals
46. Homage at burial places
Public Assemblies
47. Assemblies of protest or support
48. Protest meetings
49. Camouflaged meetings of protest
50. Teach-ins
Withdrawal and Renunciation
51. Walk-outs
52. Silence
53. Renouncing honors
54. Turning one’s back
The Methods of Social Noncooperation
Ostracism of Persons
55. Social boycott
56. Selective social boycott
57. Lysistratic nonaction
58. Excommunication
59. Interdict
Noncooperation with Social Events, Customs, and Institutions
60. Suspension of social and sports activities
61. Boycott of social affairs
62. Student strike
63. Social disobedience
64. Withdrawal from social institutions
Withdrawal from the Social System
65. Stay-at-home
66. Total personal noncooperation
67. "Flight" of workers
68. Sanctuary
69. Collective disappearance
70. Protest emigration (hijrat)
The Methods of Economic Noncooperation: Economic Boycotts
Actions by Consumers
71. Consumers’ boycott
72. Nonconsumption of boycotted goods
73. Policy of austerity
74. Rent withholding
75. Refusal to rent
76. National consumers’ boycott
77. International consumers’ boycott
Action by Workers and Producers
78. Workmen’s boycott
79. Producers’ boycott
Action by Middlemen
80. Suppliers’ and handlers’ boycott
Action by Owners and Management
81. Traders’ boycott
82. Refusal to let or sell property
83. Lockout
84. Refusal of industrial assistance
85. Merchants’ "general strike"
Action by Holders of Financial Resources
86. Withdrawal of bank deposits
87. Refusal to pay fees, dues, and assessments
88. Refusal to pay debts or interest
89. Severance of funds and credit
90. Revenue refusal
91. Refusal of a government’s money
Action by Governments
92. Domestic embargo
93. Blacklisting of traders
94. International sellers’ embargo
95. International buyers’ embargo
96. International trade embargo
The Methods of Economic Noncooperation: The Strike
Symbolic Strikes
97. Protest strike
98. Quickie walkout (lightning strike)
Agricultural Strikes
99. Peasant strike
100. Farm Workers’ strike
Strikes by Special Groups
101. Refusal of impressed labor
102. Prisoners’ strike
103. Craft strike
104. Professional strike
Ordinary Industrial Strikes
105. Establishment strike
106. Industry strike
107. Sympathetic strike
Restricted Strikes
108. Detailed strike
109. Bumper strike
110. Slowdown strike
111. Working-to-rule strike
112. Reporting "sick" (sick-in)
113. Strike by resignation
114. Limited strike
115. Selective strike
Multi-Industry Strikes
116. Generalized strike
117. General strike
Combination of Strikes and Economic Closures
118. Hartal
119. Economic shutdown
The Methods of Political Noncooperation
Rejection of Authority
120. Withholding or withdrawal of allegiance
121. Refusal of public support
122. Literature and speeches advocating resistance
Citizens’ Noncooperation with Government
123. Boycott of legislative bodies
124. Boycott of elections
125. Boycott of government employment and positions
126. Boycott of government departments, agencies, and other bodies
127. Withdrawal from government educational institutions
128. Boycott of government-supported organizations
129. Refusal of assistance to enforcement agents
130. Removal of own signs and placemarks
131. Refusal to accept appointed officials
132. Refusal to dissolve existing institutions
Citizens’ Alternatives to Obedience
133. Reluctant and slow compliance
134. Nonobedience in absence of direct supervision
135. Popular nonobedience
136. Disguised disobedience
137. Refusal of an assemblage or meeting to disperse
138. Sitdown
139. Noncooperation with conscription and deportation
140. Hiding, escape, and false identities
141. Civil disobedience of "illegitimate" laws
Action by Government Personnel
142. Selective refusal of assistance by government aides
143. Blocking of lines of command and information
144. Stalling and obstruction
145. General administrative noncooperation
146. Judicial noncooperation
147. Deliberate inefficiency and selective noncooperation by
enforcement agents
148. Mutiny
Domestic Governmental Action
149. Quasi-legal evasions and delays
150. Noncooperation by constituent governmental units
International Governmental Action
151. Changes in diplomatic and other representations
152. Delay and cancellation of diplomatic events
153. Withholding of diplomatic recognition
154. Severance of diplomatic relations
155. Withdrawal from international organizations
156. Refusal of membership in international bodies
157. Expulsion from international organizations
The Methods of Nonviolent Intervention
Psychological Intervention
158. Self-exposure to the elements
159. The fast
a) Fast of moral pressure
B) Hunger strike
c) Satyagrahic fast
160. Reverse trial
161. Nonviolent harassment
Physical Intervention
162. Sit-in
163. Stand-in
164. Ride-in
165. Wade-in
166. Mill-in
167. Pray-in
168. Nonviolent raids
169. Nonviolent air raids
170. Nonviolent invasion
171. Nonviolent interjection
172. Nonviolent obstruction
173. Nonviolent occupation
Social Intervention
174. Establishing new social patterns
175. Overloading of facilities
176. Stall-in
177. Speak-in
178. Guerrilla theater
179. Alternative social institutions
180. Alternative communication system
Economic Intervention
181. Reverse strike
182. Stay-in strike
183. Nonviolent land seizure
184. Defiance of blockades
185. Politically motivated counterfeiting
186. Preclusive purchasing
187. Seizure of assets
188. Dumping
189. Selective patronage
190. Alternative markets
191. Alternative transportation systems
192. Alternative economic institutions
Political Intervention
193. Overloading of administrative systems
194. Disclosing identities of secret agents
195. Seeking imprisonment
196. Civil disobedience of "neutral" laws
197. Work-on without collaboration
198. Dual sovereignty and parallel government
The Politics of Nonviolent Action (3 Vols.), By Gene Sharp Boston: Porter Sargent, 1973. Albert Einstein Institution
Is this Mark Fields?
Its obvious the energized agitator is from another planet. You have typed too much BS in the Shrinking US Auto MArket. U are THE GRAT KORNHOLIO. Somebody has to be paying u to write this crap. Union Wage or Exec Pay? -
Committeepersons do leg work, you have got to be kidding. At NAP we never see any of them.
Also at NAP there is a listing posted with the name of each worker and what they signed up for "buyout, transfer, etc" except for the useless union hall group. They have kept there information top secret! More secret deals going on.
They are going into GEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Energized Activator, could you please provide a list of where these tactics have been successful in say the last 25 years?
Before you play dice with the futures of so many people, wouldn't it be a nice idea to just confirm that flapping your wings really does mean you can fly?
The Energized AGITATOR is going to make sure each Uaw member has A go to jail card and/or loss of job forever like the Air Traffic controllers in 1980. :slap: Now Shut this strike committee BS down, The only way Im on Strike is If I roll this idiot down the bowling lane.
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They just started a "plan" called MODAP. Don't ask me what the hell is stands for, but it's going on at the Milan ACH plan. Basically, they give you a ridiculous amount of bumpers to build.....if you don't get the number they write you up. I am watching 2 coworkers per shift, per day get wrote up. Not only do they do that, but they took away a person and want you to get the number with less people. Also, they have put another salary person on......just to watch the line. That's the only job of 1 of the supervisors. Along with Labor Relations standing out there watching us 1/2 the day now too. Just wonder if they are putting the pressure on really heavy at the other plants?
MODAP. SFP. Are apart of the COA and CIS. These processes are aimed at efficiency improvements. Method reviews will be done to come up with MODAP AND SFP sizes. These processes are here to get more work done with less people. When the STATistics come in from your Method reviews a bar will be set and U will have to maintain that. P.s CIS is an ongoing process and u will CONTINUALLY IMPROVE THE SYSTEM OR YOU WILL BE ON DISCIPLINE AND THE PAPER TRAIL WILL START.
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I am sitting here with my coffee watching CNN. Isn't it Ironic that the Bush administrations policy changes in Iraq have been dubbed "The Way Forward in Iraq", obviously adopting a certain other flailing administrations motto?
Its the best way to say we goofed and were trying to fix it. When u mess up it still isnt bad because your way forward or trying to go forward, can be always construed as positive untill the way backward. Thus when you say Way Forward U have indeed hit Rock bottom and can maybe MOVE FORWARD like Toyota, India and China. Answer to any question is Were on are way forward from Rock-bottom.
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Are you sure?
I mean if I was Jewish I wouldn't work for a company that has anti-semitic roots.... Now I understand why he hides in the Fields..... lol
Any info re Mark Fields would be greatly appreciated!
We're looking for skeletons in his closet!
Passaic New Jersey is his hometown I believe, I dont know if he went to Passaic High. He probably went to special Yeshiva School in Passaic County some where. He is at least 46 years old so he graduated High school at least by 1979.
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Not into computer games.. I got a 360
360 also
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You're almost right.
Top laughingstock honors in pro sports goes to the San Diego Clippers. The Lions are a close second! :hyper:
Nope, Lions are in worst shape. The Clipppers moved to Los Angeles and have made the playoffs in the last decade. Lions are in the Cubs Zone. The Cubs have spent a lot of money in the month also, Cubs and Ford are On The way forward. Lions have at least 6 years to even contend for and 8-8 or 9-7 record. CURSE OF BARRY SANDERS WILL LIVE LONGER THAN THE RED SOX CURSE FOR TRADING THE BABE. 80 +years from Sanders retirement. Super BOWL MCII The Lions select Troy Smith as the 1 overall draft pick in the 2007 collegiate draft. Lions will finish 2-14 or 3-13 for the worst record in the NFL.
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There are some smart folks on this board. Somebody help me out here...
Ford currently estimates that they will have $20B January 1 2007 (this includes the expected losses in all of 2006). The new round of financing will bring in another $20B. The sale of Aston Martin is currently estimated to bring in another $1.5. Looks like almost $42 billion in cash to me.
Its interesting that Ford has raised enough cash to buy out each share holder at $12 or better a share and still retain about $20B to execute the turnaround.
Citigroup was in the middle of the latest financing deal. Rubin resigned the Ford Board claiming his ties to Citi created a conflict of interest. Makes me wonder if Ford is going private and if Citi is in the middle of it?
Some entity bought over 600 million shares in the last few days representing over 1/3 of total Ford shares outstanding. With all the talking heads talking Ford down to 6, likely only a small % of the shares bought were by retail customers. Someone is hoarding a large chunk of Ford stock, who? Could it be the specialists on the floor accumulating a large position for a dedicated buyer?
The stock price makes no sense from another angle as well.
FORD is trading .09 times revenue…however:
Daimler Chrysler is trading at .32 times revenue
Toyota is trading at 1.o1 times revenue
Honda is trading at 1.47 times revenue
Fiat is trading at .35 times revenue, and
Volkswagen is trading at 2.1 times revenue
At the lowest end of the competitor's price per sales, or .32 times revenue, the stock price would be as follows:
Ford Revenue $166 billion X .32 divided by 1.89 billion shares outstanding =
$28/SHARE
Now admittedly, Ford is losing money so it should be at the bottom today, but...
Theoretically, if you wanted to make a TON of money, you would take Ford private at $10 to $12 a share, get it back to profitability and then go public at $30 or more... And they have already raised to money to get it done...
Ford stock has been undervalued for a period of close to 4 years. Ford had or has liquidity to sustain an over 13 dollar per share. This is just a small part of the picture. Ford has so many stock certificates out there in the common stock, that ones forget about the preferred shares which are over 24 dollars per share. Ford has substantial liquidity and cash to do what ever they want.
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What are u fellows doing? Internet Tag or is Sixcav spazzin out. This is Funny Farm material.
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I was just wondering how many people took the buyout at phoenix HVC, could someone let me know
There are only about 25 to 35 people working in Phoenix and that will be for a short time, that is the first Hvc to get moved. Start looking to Nevada for new site, will take Denver and possibly ontario for a new bigger Hvc located in Nevada. speculatory fact.
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Which disclaimer?
The one that says you will not be entitiled or eligible for any future buyout agreements. I understand Ford and the legal perspective but :reading:
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No not everyones jobs. Just the people in salary that started in production, that became arrogant, snobbish, back stabbing, and all around assholes. The thing that pisses me of is they forgot where they came from, well they won't even get the chance to go back to floor at all. I understand they had a job to do, but be a human being sometimes, instead of a power hungry jerk. Oh well, I guess every dog has his day. Carma can really sometimes be a bitch.
Karma :happy feet: :happy feet: :happy feet: :happy feet:
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Jeff, whats all this talk about running against you. You signed up for the buy-out, right? There will be no elections at AAI for you anymore!
This may not be popular, and you won't hear it from me very often, but I agree with the Int'l on this one. A member on the floor deserves to have a rep that shares the same interest in the future of Ford that they do. A rep that has accepted a $100,000 pay out and is leaving the company certainly doesn't have the same interest in the future of the plant or it's local union. Either give it up and walk away, or stick it out with the rest of us.
Also you might not want to leave just yet especially if you have over 5 years. Get your Brain working and find out what the Details of the Contract, Amendments and total # of buyouts that will ACTUALLY be taken. I have learned If they say I'll get back to you, I find out before they get back to me and I let em no I know already. Use your God giving brain and dont let nobody tell u different. A bargaining rep has nothing to bargain with at this time so dont be upset if they force you out. You probably could learn and do more from the outside. TIMES ARE CHANGING. Remember WALL STREET and what they have said and how it affects you. If people who are interested in profit tell u u deserve more than THINK. If a 19 year man is offered the same monetary package as a 1 year man THink. I decided not to accept the buyout because of the disclaimer on the bottom, Think. BTW Speculation and facts are two different animals. 38000 accepted buyouts where are they at. They are telling you u have to leave because they dont have 38000, and they need as many off the books asap. THINK
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I heard that at NAP, they have a guy named Mr. Ferebee, who has 58 years seniority and is 86 years old. He was supposed to retire on Jan. 1,2007 but changed his mind. That, is keeping one younger person out of work.Rights my ass, he needs to retire.
:shades:We got guys with 40 years and aint leaving cause their ex will get pension benefits. One In particular will defintely make it to 65 years of service, He is Unbelievable. :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:
Ford to invest 1 billion in Michigan
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