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:shades: :shades: Money and Money alone will decide the futures of the hvc's! Gotta agree about lucas's do! He looks like the guy in coming to america that had the soul glow on!! Moron! Hazell is the deal , he and he alone will force these little underlings to do what the company sees fit. If they are smart , they could come out in good shape. But how many times have they done anything .....smart? :shades:

:reading: Ah , my friend we meet again.....How do you know there is no outrage about new orleans and just a note wasnt that state run by the left? :shades: I know.....the buck stops with the pres'. It does and he certainly didnt handle that right! That was Fucked up on Both sides but we give the chocolate city mayor and landreux a pass i guess right? :shades: Secondly , when , not if , but when obama goes to war and has to rebuild whatever he fucks up ill back him.....wars outside my countries limits is where my politics stops ...even with a pres i didnt elect! we can sort out any mistakes when its over....the left i dont think subscribes to the same theory...just something im wondering :shades: as for the economics .....usually no matter what the pres does , outside of nationalizing everything, effects the free market except the free market. Government out , free market in. But hey , im just a poster on this prestegious site! :happy feet:

:reading: Nicely played my man and yes i can....Yes this is the right creating an issue. The left does the same when they have there heads handed to them! While a peripheral issue at the moment if it (the spending in washington...Bush and Obama alike) is the focus and it is somewhat bi partisian it will gain legs ...if not and it stays a right sided issue it will not. Lets not even begin to use the phrase "fear mongereing" the left is pretty deft at that itself ....."Bush is Hitler" , "the right wants seniors to eat dog food" , "the right are redneck , homophobes and racists". .....Now while some on this site will latch onto my latest examples and extoll their accuracy I think you know that lazy minded politics occurs on Both sides! The problem here is Obama is an extremely left leaning democrat and Bush an extremely right leaning politician...the difference is Obama is an especially gifted speaker and intelligent man who projects that image....Bush Not soo much. It Doesnt make the pres' right in his policies! But Bush was not the fool he was depicted to be. My watchdog mentality with the Pres' is not about his race....that is a waste of time and small minded....its about my legitimate disagreements with his policies which i didnt vote for. The anvil of frustration that many on here and the left felt when bush was pres' is now ours and we are gonna chirp when unhappy....just like the left! There was a recession , all be it a fiscally "small" one when Bush took over ,look it up amatuer economists ,and he had the effects of 911 to deal with... but my friends on here will just dismiss anything that is remotely positive for Bush? Will they join us in honest conversation? Ill bet not Keep on posting ljcdad and being honest and thought out in your responses......at least you try and are good hearted in your banter Long live all of us!!!!!

after your other post on here i think we know that your problems with bush go deeper than his policies? :shades: discussion is useful and this is the place for ALL opinions. bush made HUGE mistakes and we who lean , yes lean , right were fed up with him and his spending. Hence Pres. Obama will get the same cry from us, or at least me, . check my posts ford, i just gave the Pres. credit for the banks starting to loosen up. I HOPE this dude succeeds but not this way. spending is not the answer. But hey , im just one of those WHITE boys you spoke of on another post. Your better than that man , come on get over it! By the way , i will post whatever BS i like , whenever i like dude. Settle down :reading:

thats it use race ......you got nothing else baby!!!Guess you just outed yourself didnt you? :shades:

thats it keep hammering bush! You wont live in the present will ya "stephen". What did you get back , and when will it be taxed back into bammers pocket to give to those who refuse to pay their bills? Oh that's right , they need the help , the big bad repubs fucked them you guys are too easy! Maybe they will make a new ale that all you adult bammer backers can drink along with the kool aid drinkers! your guy is everybit the fraud that bush turned out to be! :shades: what...did i just criticise my own? protect your guy baby, it shows your democratic skirt!!!

Yeah! because the LEFT NEVER protests anything and uses partisan tactics! Kool aid drinker......Obama Lover .........RECENT political advocate! I wonder if you were protesting war protests as loudly?>.......Oh i forgot those were NON partisan!

:reading: :reading: Ljcdad I had such high hopes for you!!! Im shedding a tear as you fall hard back into obama love!

I love the obama cool aid You herd followers kill me! If this was a repub. you would be screaming like a kid at the dentist! They ALL screw you worker you just cant admit it. your obama panties are showing

:happy feet: I told lcjdad and others that if this started to turn around I would acknowledge it. I saw that the banks are starting to come around and cut debt , so I am here to give the pres' credit. Hopefully this isnt temporary and things will look up! I would like nothing more than to be wrong! :happy feet: ....Now just kick these somalians assess please!!! Not a criticism just an observation!

lcjdad this is what i am talking about.....you see this....you are reasoned, thought out and looking for soloutions....people like court just want to spit out the kool aid right....lets recount the left and others and their attitiude toward bush "he wasnt elected he was selected"...that was BEFORE he was elected the first time.....I guess fannie and freddie had nothing to do with the economy right?? It was all bush....If he didnt go to war he is a coward ....when he does its isnt fought right and he is wrong for going....when he spoke, and lets agree on this one, it was painful no donbt...but the bammer has put some good ones out there hasnt he...im not calling him stupid am i?? See court you cant have it both ways brother or sister whichever you are.....hes your guy i got it...just dont ask me and many others to buy YOUR inability to criticise bam as gospel and some sort of pox on us for not falling into line. They all screw us brother....this isnt about right and left its about US!! Neither party has a monopoly on our trust. NO MATTER HOW LONG THEY HAVE BEEN THERE>>>>>>> I fall more to the right no doubt but i am for all of us first. If the right fucks up ill give it to them just as hard believe me. YOu need to find that in yourself or your just not relevant in any honest conversation of the politcs of this. By the way , Abortion, taxes,national security,economy. Those are my issues , the social shit is never determined by any one president , its usually social movements , right or left , that determine most of our social policy......lcjdad is honest and willing to take this to a new level where it isnt about winning the post but really discussing it. Good for you lcjdad , even if we dont agree your always classy about it!!! :reading:

:reading: Hey ljcdad......So if Bush was still in , would your opinion on blame be different? Why would we give bam a pass on His contribution to this....Bush , bad policy by gm , fannie and freddie , greedy bankers all contributed so of course bam is not totally to blame ....but he is the president now and since novemeber his words and deeds effect everything right? Bush gets his deserved blame and rightfully so , but this is bams baby now and if it goes down they ALL get the blame including the bammer!! Just me two cents!!

:reading: I agree the stick cannot be the only method of approach, however we have used this approach in the middle east and what did it get us? Nothing. The world is envious of the united states and thinks we need to be taken down a peg. NOT because of Bush , Clinton , Reagan or even obama.....Because we are strong , economically , militarily , and socially. Our business around the world is world class and usually leads the way and not always with a feather , sometimes we use the hammer to get what we want . I think it is naive of us to think that we will understand ,yet solve problems that are thousands of years old. We must continue dialouge but if you think this is something other than distingusihing himslef (obama) from Bush your naive. Not meant argumentively just the truth as i see it brother. In the real world force is used everyday. whether it be harsh economic deals , espionage , outright military movements and strong political positions designed to strengthen the us. Do you think the u.n. will suddenly help us out now? Come on , we have very few backers out there and can trust only half of them. Somewhere in between is the commonsense approach. I dont back obama's current stand without some stick ya know? Anyway , keep hittin me back on my posts , at least you are passionate and think your statements through!! Dialouge is the key right........ :shades:

Attack away brother.....your reaction speaks volumes. You have your opinion and i have mine. Hang on the ride will be bumpy , as it always is. Just because I have strong opinions about the direction bam is taking us doesnt make me republican or right wing . That is just a way for the kool aid crowd to sheild bam from all critics! Bush is gone , the repubs dont run a thing so try a new tact brother. this is a blog for ALL opinions and there is room for all! Have a great day and remeber ..........change we can believe in! :happy feet:

I guess all that shit talk about your union just stops now huh??? im glad you guys got the new shifts and products , it s great. But your politics sucks and the people who guided you through this minefield and ultimately got you this stuff deserves a THANK YOU!! ALL YOU BACKBENCHING , BIGMOUTHS GOT SOME 'SPLAINING TO DO !!!

debate NOT ignorance .....sorry

What did the carrot get us with clinton????? 911 :shades: This plan will backfire because the people bent on our destruction will happily use fools to build up and then wipe us out. They dont drive hybrids and sip latte's they want what we have and will fight for it and wont care what we think. Lets see what the feather gets us.......... All opinions are meant in the spirit of debate and ignorance!! :reading:

:reading: the congress just passed a bill called the omnibus bill. in this bill 2 million acres of land rich in oil and natural gas was set off limits to any exploration. couple that with the takeover of gm and what do you get.......$4 a gallon gas. What does that get ........gm , ford and chrysler forced to manufacture small hybrid cars which is exactly what bam wants. He is setting this all up and covering his tracks as he goes. This man may be alot of things , but stupid is not one of them. At least when he wants something. $4 a gallon gas i thought was only during the greedy repubs????? Get ready , this shit is just starting! Wages will be cut one way or another ....i beleive these moves with gm are to cover an upfront bankruptcy. Watch it and see if I am off base. If I am I will take my medicine right here.....IF i am right how many do you think will acknowledge it?? :shades: 2010 is the first chance to change this absolute dictatorship!! This man is NOT what he portrayed, then again none of them are!! The kool aid crowd must be sick!!!

I have been on here many times bashing president bam, however i do not have any opinion yet on this move. I did not vote for bam but i NEED him to succeed. The people on here who cover EVERYTHING bam does are just kool aid drinkers. They would go to the ends of the earth to defend their guy! I wonder why when these were the same people beating on bush at every step. By the way , bush deserved some of it, when this is over (bam) will make bush look like washington! I love the people who NEVER gave a shit about politics now rush on here to defend their guy! These were the same people who only spoke to bash the Other presidents and call the country unjust. But NOW we should get behind bam and link arms for the good of the country!!! What! Where was this for the last couple hundred years! This man is risking alot with his strategies, from coddleing Iran and praising hamas , to giving up strategic arms to get russia to "talk" , to taking over gm and remaking companies to his whims! I know , the bam jammers are gonna fly off the handle because i am just a republican , or a bush apologist right! Im neither , i just point out the obvious and sometimes that hurts! Bush made mistakes and caused alot of problems, no doubt. But dont tell me the sky isnt blue when all i have to do is look up!

Kool aid alert!! Another apologist no matter what bam does. Feel the love! If it were bush you would be hatin hard, but not bam huh !! CLASSIC!

:reading: Dark .....its not a right or left thing its a dumbass thing. It doesnt matter how long 8yrs or 2 months.....it was stupid! I know you love the guy i get it, just try and put down the kool aid ! He may turn out to be great and to people like you and many others he will always be great! No matter what, we get it. You should really look at how hard your lovin not how hard anyone else is hatin!! :happy feet:

you guys can attack me all you want.....fantastic and dark and all the others. Bush was a clown , got it . make sure you understand me he made mistakes and i hold him responsible for what he did. The question is will you hold bam responsible? If bush had made any of the gafs that this guy makes you would all hang him. I do work in the country club and love it brother. Sorry you didnt get a chance to , its really different and better! :happy feet: My objective is to point out the outrageous double standard that applies on both sides. Listen...............both sides! Be men and hold him responsible for his mistakes no matter how long he has been in. Remember , bush had left wingers holding alternate inaugurations during his!! I think thats less time than two months right boys! Save your venom on me man direct it where it belongs ....phony ass politicians who use you and throw you out when you served your purpose. You attack me because it deflects from your guy bam He is our president and that means when he kicks ass I , yes I , will be on here giving him the credit. YOu have my word, however when he fucks up your gonna hear it just like bush and his boys did. ALL presidents get it brothers! He is fucking up and you know it, just be honest and stop all the kool aid shit!!!!!! :happy feet:

Was that our prez making a joke about the popularity of auto bailouts? Is this funny? Where's the outrage........... :shades:

So, where was all the outrage and special olympians being dragged out on morning shows and the news? Where were all the tug at your heart stories to illustrate the insensitive nature of our bungler in chief? Bush was stupid and didnt think before he spoke right? What exactly did the bamster mean when he said that? did anyone make him explain it? Of course not, just like the other side when its your ox being gored you hear nothing! It was stupid , insensitive and hardly the kind of inspiring rhetoric weve come to expect from the bamster!! I know, bush is this and bush is that and bam is great! come on lets hear all the drones tell me how its no big deal and he apologized didnt he! YOur guy is an ass and he is proving it everyday! They all screw us and just cause he is the first african american or more articulate than bush and all the others doesnt mean he gets a pass! Welcome to the world stage bam!! OH im sorry , for those of you who now worry about people putting president before the mans name ( under "bush" it never mattered but now>>>>) president bamster!!! what a goof , the parade of idiots just keeps coming!!! I LOVE IT!!!!

If Bush was to blame leading up to this crisis, then Obama will take his share now. His taxes will effect peoples ability to use disposable income which will in turn effect their decsion to buy new cars. they are all to blame, and YES it belongs here every bit as much as the bush/republican bashers before obama took office. dems are full of shit too and will screw people to get what they want! :happy feet: