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6 hours ago, bzcat said:
Honestly, the first one to figure out how to sell LHD fullsize pickup trucks in Australia with reasonable pricing it going to clean up... it's just such a small market that no one even bothers.
2Ford did a few years back (for a few years until 2007) when they sold Brazilian (I think) spec F250s and F350s here. Then they stopped. Lord knows why.
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I think we're seeing the beginnings of a 3 or 4 tiered Ford. Euro / ROW, US / Canada, Developing nations, and China. I for one don't mind the idea of Ford Oz getting the Euro models - they tend to handle, ride, drive more to Oz tastes than the US vehicles. If anything, they've always been a little underpowered though. Edge (Endura) is a waste of space here. Wrong engine and wrong seating capacity. A 7 seat Escape will sell much better if priced correctly with the right engine.
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6 hours ago, jpd80 said:
Color me confused as we've just received the RHD Endura is Australia, if RHD Europe pulls out of Edge, then that means our Endura will be gone inside 12 months... unless Australia is used to recover the RHD Edge development costs...Although the Chinese 7-seat Edge would make more sense for Australia over say, an Explorer.
This.
But with Endura only being available with 2l diesel and 5 seats in Oz, (neither of which are where the market is) and other small / medium SUVs now being available with 7 seats (CRV, Tiguan etc), I'm thinking we'll see a short life for Endura, this 7 seat Kuga become available, and I still think we'll see Explorer as alternative to Kluger / Acadia eventually. Endura makes little to no sense whatsoever in Oz as it stands. A cynic would say they're simply trying to offload excess volume once destined for UK.
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https://www.afr.com/street-talk/uk-strategic-testdrives-options-for-gms-holden-20190206-h1awoy
QuoteInchcape is believed to be keen to see whether GM could be tempted to pull up stumps in Australia altogether, as part of the restructuring activities worldwide. It is understood bilateral discussions have progressed slowly and there are extreme sensitivities on both sides of the negotiating table.
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https://www.whichcar.com.au/car-news/holden-owner-general-motors-to-leave-australia
QuoteThe future of Holden could rest with Inchcape Australia, importer of Subaru, Peugeot and Citroen vehicles, which is reportedly in talks with General Motors to take over the sales, marketing and distribution of Holden-badged vehicles in this country.
I'm trying to find the "media article" mentioned in the article.
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39 minutes ago, ANTAUS said:
At the rate Ford starts productions after it displays them at the autoshow, this "said" vehicle would be out by 2022-2023 ?
It's almost Toyota-like these days...
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50 minutes ago, Assimilator said:
The F-150 BEV is actually a unique architecture and development code. I'm told it's NOT just adding batteries to the new P702. It's not clear to me if this involves just the underpinnings or a whole new product. I suspect this is more ambitious than assumed. I hope it is considering how crucial this product series is to Ford, they have to get it right the first time or Tesla and the upstarts are going to upstage them.
I'm unaware of any Hybrids coming to SuperDuty, but P703 is the next one and it's possible it will get something.
Does this then mean we could be looking at an additional vehicle in the F Series lineup? An F-EV, as it may be called?
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The benefit here, for Ford, will be amortization of development costs. How large that benefit is will have to be seen.
It's not new for VW to use other makers for their vans - the previous gen Crafter vans were built by Mercedes Benz.
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Do we not think Lincoln will get the platform from the Mach E?
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5 hours ago, RadicalX said:
Damn they be some big ass wheel arches! Tell me they're putting 19s as standard, with 20 or 21s optional...
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Autoline made a good point that GM haven't said they're CLOSING the plants per se, merely shuttering them. Autoline made mention of the fact that GM have UAW negotiations looming, and could be using the free plants as bargaining tools to wrangle concessions from UAW in return for new vehicles being produced in these plants.
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Am I the only one that thinks the grille could be a little bigger?
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Looks like massive shifts are occurring throughout the entire market and manufacturers are catching on. Unlike pre-bankruptcy, automakers have picked up on trends earlier and are making tough choices, rather than continuing to churn out hundreds of thousands of vehicles no-one wants, and then have to discount them.
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Triton
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Panther
Python
Thunder
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Legion
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Phoenix
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I think Ford Phoenix has a nice ring to it, and it could have a pretty cool logo too. I liked the Ford FX as well since FX is already associated with off-road within the ford family. I always liked the triton name and thought it belonged on a vehicle instead of an engine.
Ford have just trademarked Adrenaline in Canada...
https://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2018/09/ford-adrenaline-name-trademarked-crossover.html
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The one major mistake Mullaly made in my opinion was letting Mazda go. That was a fruitful partnership that had major benefits. And now theyre in the Toyota orbit. Mazda did/could add significant volume to every major product niche except vans and full-size trucks.
I agree with this.
The Mazda 2 / Fiesta, 3 / Focus, Mondeo / Fusion / 6, and their respective CUV offspring all had synergies that could (and did while Ford held them) amortize development costs.
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The problem Ford has is that other makers now have multiple tiered brands to amortise development costs across -
Skoda, VW, Audi
Nissan, Daimler, Renault, Mitsu
Hyundai / Kia
Chrysler, Fiat, Alfa, Dodge
Ford has... Ford.
They're on their own, and the reality is that makes them vulnerable.
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Here in Oz, anything with 4 wheels is a car. A sedan is a car, an SUV is a car, a truck is a ute is a car. A "truck" is more like your Freightliner / Mack / Kenworth tractor. Don't get hung up on it ?
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Havent seen this around here: https://www.carscoops.com/2018/07/ford-teases-three-new-models-including-escape-explorer-baby-bronco/
You need to look harder... Not too much harder, but harder :-)
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In the short term, PSA will just produce Regal and Commodore for GM as long as the check clears.
In the mid term, GM can source the Regal and Commodore sedan from China. The wagon is more problematic but the wagon business may not be big enough for GM to loose sleep over.
In the long term, I think there is no point for a Regal sedan in the US (it will continue in China). And Holden can decide if they want to base its Commodore on Chinese Regal or Chinese Malibu.
Holden's schizophrenic line up of part Chevy, part GMC, part Buick rebadges is a little weird to be honest. They should pick which design language they want to align with... Buick or Chevy.
Spark --> Chevy Spark
Barina --> Chevy Sonic
Astra --> Buick Verano (why not Cruze?)
Commodore --> Buick Regal (why not Malibu?)
Trax --> Chevy Trax
Equinox --> Chevy Equinox
Captiva --> Chevy Capitva
Acadia --> GMC Acadia (why not Blazer?)
Colorado --> Chevy Colorado
The Astra hatch is the Verano, but the Astra sedan is the Cruze (Just to make things even more confusing).
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The traditionalist in me says Lincoln needs a big-a**ed, suicide doored sedan in its lineup. The 61-65 Contys are such an instantly recognisable car. To me, the current conty is the closest thing to that in the current lineup, but even that doesn't *scream* Lincoln.
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The difference is the product mix.
Around 70% of FoA's sales come from Mustang + Ranger + Everest with an average transaction price well over AUS $55K.
Thatt is far and away differnt to stakcing your house with Ka and other low cost vehicle sales.
And I think if FoA can overcome the bad image Focus has thanks to DCT debacle, it may be seen as a Golf competitor rather than a Corolla / Astra competitor. We've already seen Holden announce the spark is gone, with sales expected to come from base Astra, while FoA have said there won't be a bargain basement, price leader Focus.
Problems for FoA are Escape and Ecosport - both booming segments and FoA going nowhere quickly. Escape isn't bad, but Ecosport is outclassed by basically everything.
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What is it with Ford and those MASSIVE front overhangs and looooong windscreens!? It makes their cars look like the wheels are smack bang in the middle of the car and tiny, like I used to draw when I was 3. Current EcoSport and Escape both suffer from the same affliction.
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Word is that Penske basically told them he'd go to Holden if they didn't OK it, which would have left Tickford as the sole Ford team, which would have been untenable given development costs etc.
Agree with what you're saying re it being a bit of a joke. If you're going to give us FP, give us the FP versions of everything we can get our hands on. All they've really done is re-launch vehicles that are already here, but in a sub-brand.
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Ford Performance launched in Australia
https://www.motoring.com.au/ford-performance-launched-in-australia-112153/
Why Ford is Back in Supercars Racing -
https://www.motoring.com.au/official-ford-mustang-for-australian-supercars-112139/
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GM to exit Oz, hand sales to distributor..?
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The problem with Ford in Oz is their rubbish marketing and poor dealer satisfaction survey results... Focus transmission problems from a couple of years ago are still hurting as well, I'd imagine.