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6 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said:
No it wasn't, it was a change in direction. Rather than evolving S550 to S650 they switched to CD6 instead.
What do ya think l put cancelled in quote marks?. This could be the same case for Camaro if the story's accurate.
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1 hour ago, jcartwright99 said:
If this is true, it is history repeating itself. GM will never learn. The Camaro outperforms the Mustang on a track. The 4th Gen did as well. Guess what, 1% of these car owners actually take them to the track. Numbers are great for d*ck waving but not necessarily for daily driving. If it is small, rides rougher, and you can't see out of it people won't usually buy as a daily driver as there are too many comprises. It didn't help that their refresh made it look even more hideous. So much so that they had to give it another front end the following model year.
Shouldn't you fellas be buying the bar now that Chevy is bowing out?....
I'd wait for more solid info before spreading it. It could have been stopped for a new design, a sedan or an performance CUV variant added. l highly doubtful the less profitable Corvette survived and the Camaro didn't.
Remember, the Mustang was "cancelled" last year too....
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I'd knew this had to happen due to A. the ME Vette B. I'd be pissed if a Mustang (GT500) made more power then my 6 figured car from the same manufacturer.
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3 hours ago, jpd80 said:
Indeed Ram does flash the cash but GM opened the door with an under performing Silverado, even with truck month after truck month, Chevrolet can't seem to get sales traction....
GM just started production of the lower trim T1s and HD just this past month. Didn't GM have this type of issue before when switching from GMT900 the K2?. I'm sure truck sales will increase unless someone has proof they won't at all.
As for engines the Duramax blows the doors off the Ram in actual towing test despite having less advertised tq, as for the 6.6 remember it only replaced the 6.0, not a BB replacement.
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21 minutes ago, msm859 said:
They should still stay in the sedan market. How many sales are they going to lose because someone who is a "Ford" person but wants to buy a car goes over to Toyota and then really likes the "cars" and decides they also want an SUV and then they will cross shop what Toyota sells. So Ford may be nearsighted on this for long term growth.
Absolutely, one affordable sedan is what I think Ford is doing for those reasons. IMO a 2.3 6 speed MT / 8-10 AT Fusion sport replacement would get me out my Foucs ST, not an heavy Edge ST and surely not a $56k Explorer ST. I don't think you'll see a compact Ford car other than Fiesta in the States anymore unless they'll import Focus ST/RS for a price.
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I'm surprised there's a 2020 Fusion.
Maybe prime motivators are dealers complained that some Ford buyers don't want SUVs, nothing inexpensive to sell (as someone mentioned the Focus was expensive to make in the US and same with the Taurus with an old platform) and FCA, GM still continues Malibu and Charger. Will it be a redesign soon?.
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It's a diesel and there similar engine outputs from GM and Ram, still don't take from the fact Germans underrated their engine outputs in their luxury cars these days.
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2 hours ago, akirby said:
There is no way they underrate hp that much.
The Benz CLS with it's 4500lbs hit 60 in 4.7 seconds and "362 HP" ;
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a22794077/2019-mercedes-benz-cls-new-engine/
Not going even give the laughable BMW and Audi numbers out of their totally underrated tt6 cly numbers but one is the Supra's 3.8 and 4.4 60 mph run C/D and M/T have with the "335 HP" BMW mill.
We know the Caddy 3.0tt can hit 400+HP but maybe they aligning hp numbers with the competition so on paper you have to have over 400hp to outgun a German sedan will "320" HP or so.
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Guess I'd eat my words, apparently the redesigned Tracker is still US bound but didn't expect Trailblazer to be offered here. Fwiw the older encore will be offered along with the Encore GX and Tracker/Trailblazer will be Chevy's versions.
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3 hours ago, ausrutherford said:
So you can get an MkZ with more hp than CTS-V.
Let that sink in...
Not quite for long...
Apparently the V cars shown on Thursday were the "lite" V cars and not the real Vs teased in Detroit today.
Another rumor is the 335 HP in the CT5 3.0tt is "335 HP", in other words it's underated or it's probably still making 400 HP as it once did in the CT6.
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On 5/20/2019 at 12:10 PM, rmc523 said:
Because it's very similar to Bolt in sizing, and Bolt isn't doing that great. People want a stylish vehicle/electric, not an econobox.
Yet it's still the 2nd bestseller. If wasn't for the Model 3 it would be #1 like it was before the Tesla showed up, plus who knows?, the Bolt might become "sexy" in it's 2nd generation.
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8 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said:
I would rather leave the Probe name in the past and come up with something different. I don't know of anyone who has fond memories of the Probe.
Had an 89 GT turbo, one of the best cars I've owned ever. Wondering will the Mach E be a gas car with an E/V variant or a pure electric only?.
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1 hour ago, 92merc said:
From everything I've read, General Malfunction isn't making a dime on the Bolt and didn't on the Volt. They lost money after development costs are considered.
If Ford can't do it AND make a profit, they shouldn't be doing it just for F***'s sake. They need to make money. Which is why I think we're seeing the new 10 speed version of hybrids hitting hard. It's a more profitable system to use the existing 10 speed trans as a basis.
I think they could make a bit of money making a performance hybrid ala Ford GT type setup. Small production, purpose built. I think that is what the Mach EV is going to be.
Again, where's Ford's effort now after Focus EV and C-Max?, don't think that the Bolt/Volt tech is strictly for the US only with China and Buick. I'm highly doubtful the Mach 1 will be in-line in price for Bolt, hopefully they aiming at Tesla.
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2 hours ago, akirby said:
That link might as well been from 1978, Bolt sales are still 2nd from Model 3 as of last month.
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4 minutes ago, 92merc said:
Show us where any of those are actually bringing sustainable profit to their companies....
OK, maybe the Prius. If that.
Well GM made $2 billion last quarter, don't know how much GM is making money on Bolt but at this point it's short-sighted not to have a mainstream EV to compete.
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1 hour ago, akirby said:
You’re joking, right?
Model 3 is the only car in it's class that outselling Bolt while leaving Volt in the dust and runs neck-neck with Prius-Prime, BTW where's Ford's version?.....
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16 hours ago, rmc523 said:
https://www.autoblog.com/2019/05/17/chevy-bolt-euv-electric-crossover-spy-photos/
Another ho-hum econobox doomed to fail.
How you know it will fail?, if GM making another one the current one have to have something going on with it.
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11 hours ago, msm859 said:
Yes, said talk is ALL false LOL. And actually I said "billion" regarding the surplus. It is actually $21.5 BILLION - https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-gavin-newsom-california-budget-20190513-story.html. As you see the surplus is actually greater than the entire budget of at least 20 states.
California was having budgetary problems over 6 years ago. We then got a super majority of Democrats in power, raised taxes and invested in the state - complete turn around. Contrast with Kansas that went full "supple side economics" slashed taxes and ended up with an economic meltdown.
So the nation supposed to listen to you guys because you have a little money and grow fruits?. TX had a $6-8 billion surplus for a few years but not crazy on taxes but they don't pompously blow thier horn across the nation because of it. Sky-high taxes, catering to the Chinese makes citizens and companies flee like Toyota US (the car company Californians worship).
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5 hours ago, msm859 said:
California’s agriculture industry is a major player in the state’s economy – and for the U.S. overall – generating a whopping $100 billion in agriculture-related activity each year. One of only five agricultural regions in the world with a Mediterranean-growing climate, California produces more than 400 animal and plant commodities annually, more than any other state, with top products including milk, almonds, grapes, beef and more. Additionally, two-thirds of the nation’s fruits and nuts and over a third of its vegetables are produced by California farms alone.
We also have Silicon Valley and Hollywood that are not going to be replaced by Texas. Not too worried about a BK, we have a $20 billion dollar surplus this year.
I say again what can Cali do that can't be done in other states?, just because California is allowed to hold a title means nothing (except arrogant CA residents). An extreme example is how China was behind in 1988 vs now, anywhere in this nation can surpass CA with the right steps .
Technology?, heard of Microsoft?, Boeing?, Amazon? hell even Ford? all non-CA companies. Hollywood?, who really cares about the smut TV, movie & porn industry with a bunch of whinny, entitled "actors" who try to "teach" American values?, plenty of good entertainment and shows outside of CA. Food?, food can be grown anywhere with plenty of land and sunlight (which TX and FL have). With all the problems CA is having you guys can have that "success".
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9 hours ago, Trader 10 said:
California is the 5th largest economy in the world due to its pushing green? Baloney! Oil has been a big factor in Propelling California to its current economic position.
More like the most likely to go BK, putting advertisements on TV tell people "we're cool, please visit us", amongst the other immoral garbage they float on TV and internet. What can't be made in other states that's made in California?, Texas is replacing California for economy anyways.
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This isn't US bound, it's on GMs GEM platform (won't pass US crash standards). If it is color me shocked.
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I'd called it a few post back either a Mex-built "Chinese" Escort or a Mex- built Euro Foucs since the rumored fastback rwd Fusion/Taurus replacement won't be cheap (think Charger priced) and will be shared with new Zephyr.
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1 hour ago, fuzzymoomoo said:
They'll bring over the Euro Focus before the Chinese Escort
I meant they would make the Escort in Mexico and offer it in N/A and (now I think about it) Cent/S. America.
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It's fine if Ford don't choose to compete in the US low-end sedan market although IMO they have the platform and factory ready in Mexico. As said IMO don't be too surprised when Mexican TC/Foucs pickup goes online Escort maybe offered.
Camaro may go on hiatus.
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Now there's news the Camaro only been delayed one MY instead of axed.