Our International is Screwing us and corrupt....

[sjohnson]

People need to wake up. Wall Street says this is a good deal,that ought to tell our membership that this deal sucks for us and is only good for Ford. You are so right Wall Street is about to go bust. The people of this country has done woke up and seen the truth,they are fighting back,thats why Occupy Wall Street has become a success and it will change things. The media tried blocking news coverage on it,yahoo blocked emails on it,media tried to denounce it and say it was just a hanful of young,punk kids. Well it has grown to thousands around Wall Street itself and now people in 15 other cities and states have joined in,the whole world is listening and watching and supporting the cause,cause Wall Street effects the whole world.

 

Our union leaders in no way should be strong arming us and using scare tactics for us to vote a certain way. They are suppose listen to their people not fight against them. They should be elected out of office and Im tired of not being able to vote on our IUAW reps and our President,that is such bullshit. A union is suppose to be a democracy and our Iuaw runs it like communist. Its not who is next in line for the throne,it should be who we vote in. We Americans vote for our President,Congressman,Senators,Mayors,etc... Why does our IUAW think they are so special and keep us out of the process? They decide on their own who gets brought up to an IUAW position. They vote their own raise in (just voted themselves a raise,while denying us one),hire who they want to be their secretaries (like their wives),they all get 2 pensions and make no less than 150,000 a year.

 

They are not for us,we are getting screwed and they have done nothing but use scare tactics on their membership. That is wrong..... We do have the right to denounce our union and vote in another union and all monies,assets transfer over. It is not their money it is ours,the memberships. Hoffa and Teamsters got their membership raises back in 2008 and 2009 when the economy was way worse and the auto companies was taking a bailout. Wake up people and fight.... If this is voted in,we will see our union crash. We will no longer be union. Uaw is almost broke and about to go belly up now. By next contract, their will be no UAW for us to try and get anything back if we dont stand and fight now...

 

Have any of you noticed that after a new contract passes or like back when they opened up the contract to ask for concessions and your local and IUAW would more less tell you to vote yes and then they would tell you,if you dont your plant will close,then after it passes,usually your bargaining chairman all the sudden got a spot up in International?

 

26 million to Mulally just in wages this year,56 million in stocks,24 million to Ford Jr,50+ million in stocks,not including Mark Fields that threatened to leave and go to Toyota,all of salary got raises,bonuses,their 401k matched, IUAW voted themselves a raise but we get nothing,King said no more concessions,our retirees get no xmas bonuses,no raise in pensions but they tell us they need to be competitive. Mulaly alone made more than all the automaker CEOs. Why dont our union go public and compare Fords salary wages from Mulaly on down to the other automakers,including the transplants??

 

Where was our Union leaders when we was being bashed during the bailouts? Not one went on any news channel or did any interviews in our defense. The only one that defended us was the Mayor of Detroit...

 

They are asking us to give 10% to Veba,which will average out about 60 million a year. They got around 16 billion from Ford,11 billion from Gm plus a load of shares for the differance,which they own like 36% of GM because of it,they own like 46% of Chrysler because of it. They wasnt underfunded they got the differance in the shares for them to sell,its a conflict of interest for a union to own that much of a company when they are a union. Now they are playing corporate against their own people and still collecting money from us while more less owning the company. They are just like a CEO now. We are getting screwed people. Wake up,stand up and fight.....

 

The cost of living is rising by record numbers,no cola,no increase in wages for 4 years is a concession. Our wages say 28 an hr but with inflation it is lowered alot,now think in 2 or 3 years of more inflation at record numbers what it will actually become.

 

Ford and Gm is bringing back work anyways,Mexico drug cartels and their drug war is way out of control and effecting them,they have kept it out of the media,China is strong arming Ford and Gm over their hybrid technology,share it with them or no longer do business there,why we are getting product back from China from both Ford and Gm. The American dollar isnt worth shit,its cheaper to build here. Ford,Gm are getting millions in tax breaks from our government and millions to retool to bring jobs back. They are going to anyways.

 

Oh look it up their are 84 cases alone just since 1998 of Uaw corruption that is in the millions..

 

Im not anti-Uaw,Im anti-of getting screwed by the people we pay to protect us and our families best interest,not the companies or make sure that their pockets are well padded. If the Uaw goes under you can bet that King,Settles and the International are all well taking care of and have positions in one of the automakers.

 

Vote how you feel but think of you and your families before hand...

[MTP WORKER]

People need to wake up. Wall Street says this is a good deal,that ought to tell our membership that this deal sucks for us and is only good for Ford. You are so right Wall Street is about to go bust. The people of this country has done woke up and seen the truth,they are fighting back,thats why Occupy Wall Street has become a success and it will change things. The media tried blocking news coverage on it,yahoo blocked emails on it,media tried to denounce it and say it was just a hanful of young,punk kids. Well it has grown to thousands around Wall Street itself and now people in 15 other cities and states have joined in,the whole world is listening and watching and supporting the cause,cause Wall Street effects the whole world.

 

Our union leaders in no way should be strong arming us and using scare tactics for us to vote a certain way. They are suppose listen to their people not fight against them. They should be elected out of office and Im tired of not being able to vote on our IUAW reps and our President,that is such bullshit. A union is suppose to be a democracy and our Iuaw runs it like communist. Its not who is next in line for the throne,it should be who we vote in. We Americans vote for our President,Congressman,Senators,Mayors,etc... Why does our IUAW think they are so special and keep us out of the process? They decide on their own who gets brought up to an IUAW position. They vote their own raise in (just voted themselves a raise,while denying us one),hire who they want to be their secretaries (like their wives),they all get 2 pensions and make no less than 150,000 a year.

 

They are not for us,we are getting screwed and they have done nothing but use scare tactics on their membership. That is wrong..... We do have the right to denounce our union and vote in another union and all monies,assets transfer over. It is not their money it is ours,the memberships. Hoffa and Teamsters got their membership raises back in 2008 and 2009 when the economy was way worse and the auto companies was taking a bailout. Wake up people and fight.... If this is voted in,we will see our union crash. We will no longer be union. Uaw is almost broke and about to go belly up now. By next contract, their will be no UAW for us to try and get anything back if we dont stand and fight now...

 

Have any of you noticed that after a new contract passes or like back when they opened up the contract to ask for concessions and your local and IUAW would more less tell you to vote yes and then they would tell you,if you dont your plant will close,then after it passes,usually your bargaining chairman all the sudden got a spot up in International?

 

26 million to Mulally just in wages this year,56 million in stocks,24 million to Ford Jr,50+ million in stocks,not including Mark Fields that threatened to leave and go to Toyota,all of salary got raises,bonuses,their 401k matched, IUAW voted themselves a raise but we get nothing,King said no more concessions,our retirees get no xmas bonuses,no raise in pensions but they tell us they need to be competitive. Mulaly alone made more than all the automaker CEOs. Why dont our union go public and compare Fords salary wages from Mulaly on down to the other automakers,including the transplants??

 

Where was our Union leaders when we was being bashed during the bailouts? Not one went on any news channel or did any interviews in our defense. The only one that defended us was the Mayor of Detroit...

 

They are asking us to give 10% to Veba,which will average out about 60 million a year. They got around 16 billion from Ford,11 billion from Gm plus a load of shares for the differance,which they own like 36% of GM because of it,they own like 46% of Chrysler because of it. They wasnt underfunded they got the differance in the shares for them to sell,its a conflict of interest for a union to own that much of a company when they are a union. Now they are playing corporate against their own people and still collecting money from us while more less owning the company. They are just like a CEO now. We are getting screwed people. Wake up,stand up and fight.....

 

The cost of living is rising by record numbers,no cola,no increase in wages for 4 years is a concession. Our wages say 28 an hr but with inflation it is lowered alot,now think in 2 or 3 years of more inflation at record numbers what it will actually become.

 

Ford and Gm is bringing back work anyways,Mexico drug cartels and their drug war is way out of control and effecting them,they have kept it out of the media,China is strong arming Ford and Gm over their hybrid technology,share it with them or no longer do business there,why we are getting product back from China from both Ford and Gm. The American dollar isnt worth shit,its cheaper to build here. Ford,Gm are getting millions in tax breaks from our government and millions to retool to bring jobs back. They are going to anyways.

 

Oh look it up their are 84 cases alone just since 1998 of Uaw corruption that is in the millions..

 

Im not anti-Uaw,Im anti-of getting screwed by the people we pay to protect us and our families best interest,not the companies or make sure that their pockets are well padded. If the Uaw goes under you can bet that King,Settles and the International are all well taking care of and have positions in one of the automakers.

 

Vote how you feel but think of you and your families before hand...

Then what good will it do to send the so called corrupt IUAW back to a table if they are not on the side of the Ford UAW workers( well close to half right now). I mean what is the minimal amount of changes in the agreement that would satisfy you and will that be enough to satisfy every other NO voter? If the leaders are so corrupt and you piss them off should'nt you be a little worried that they may get fed up with you too and may decide to teach you a little lesson about " not biting the hand that feeds you?" Right now it seems to be a dumb time to be picking fights. Conceding might be the WISEST thing to do if you can get by with the deal being offered now. Swallow the medicine(and your pride) and close your nose if it helps but Vote YES if you still can people.

[sjohnson]

Then what good will it do to send the so called corrupt IUAW back to a table if they are not on the side of the Ford UAW workers( well close to half right now). I mean what is the minimal amount of changes in the agreement that would satisfy you and will that be enough to satisfy every other NO voter? If the leaders are so corrupt and you piss them off should'nt you be a little worried that they may get fed up with you too and may decide to teach you a little lesson about " not biting the hand that feeds you?" Right now it seems to be a dumb time to be picking fights. Conceding might be the WISEST thing to do if you can get by with the deal being offered now. Swallow the medicine(and your pride) and close your nose if it helps but Vote YES if you still can people.

 

I must of woke up an IUAW rep. Well hello. You dont have to ask me what all of us wanted,we all told you what we wanted and you all got us nothing but you give yourself a raise and you get a fat bonus if this shit passes.

 

Your right,if you are so corrupt why would we risk you going back to the table? We dont have to accept what you try to agree on. If you think that the no voters cant get together and organize our own rally against our corrupt IUAW you have another thing coming. Their is more no voters than their is yes,you and IUAW just scared the shit out of them to change their minds. Go ahead,strong arm your membership but remember,we will fight back and I believe that our International doesnt want the truth told to the media and the public. If you think the public has a bad image now of our union,you wait. you screw your own people that pay you and trust you to protect them and their families and you turn on them,not good,remember that.....

 

If you think the members or the people cant find out the truth then wake up and see. Its about to explode..... You want to screw your membership then what goes around always comes back. History always repeats itself and you and IUAW will be exploited. Now either they fight for their people or they lose. Remember social media and the internet is at the fingers of everyone.....