Stap guy

Is it true Scot Smith landed a sweet job in the national? If he did it really speaks to what has been going on.

I too believe The Caw National is getting a share of the 400 million. I do not believe Scott is savvy enough to be apart of it. Arrogant maybe but not savvy. I think he is a fall guy, a puppet for the national who seems to repeat everything that he is told to say. I do not believe members are being too hard on him. He actually recomended the agreement and later said that it didn't happen. HUH??? That only shows how little respect he has for us. As for our national if nothing else I have learned how greedy they are. Come Sept 17 those who negotated for us will still have jobs. I believe Ford has played thier role as expected, trying to reduce costs by all means but the union seems to only care about there long term income and if they have to give up a few members dues for the greater income so be it. But I also believe our dues for many years to come have been paid from that 400 mill meaning we are nothing to the CAW. If they have nothing to hide then why not account for all the money?? I can almost hear Fluenza in the back ground saying "trust me brother I will look after it" then feeling the cold steel of a knife in my back.. But don't worry Ken you will still get your precious dues.

I heard there has been some legal action and an investigation has begun into the actions of 1520. Is there anyone who has direct knowledge of this and if so what exactly are the issues?

It is comforting to know that whatever happens good old Lewenza will always have his Pension and Benefits. I am sure all his cronies will be well looked after also. It is clear that although the union may have began with good intentions, the model is clearly broken.

What a slap in the face again!! STAP is closing, we had to take concessions!! Cola is gone, benefits reduced. holidays taken away!! Now Ford Jr. and Mulally pocket the savings!! AS our pay goes down because of lack of cola they line their pockets!! Good job BROTHER Lewenza. You told us ford had major debt, ignore the profits they are in trouble. You told us we either give back or lose even more jobs. Someone lied and your being pretty damn quiet. WTF!!!!!!!! I pay to get screwed!!! I expect the company to lie, cheat, and steal. Should I expect the same from the CAW??

Allright, Which plants had a snow day and which didn't. Let us know!!

The response is a shrug of the shoulders and "it's in our constitution". I believe it is under the section called "BEND OVER BROTHER." I am sure Kenny will put the profits of our local assets to good use!

Anyone know how many signatures they have gathered for the petition?

Will this change our fate...absolutely not! But Scott and Dennis stood @ that podium with the national reps and blatantly lied to each and every person at the meeting. For that I want accountability. Is Scott ever on the floor, NO! He is busy going to Oakvillle and Windsor learning to be a benefits rep so he can take it from a senior guy! Dennis was a benefits rep for years. You can't believe that he didn't know the info that was given to us was wrong. The job of both Scott and Dennis is to look out for our best interests even if it means standing up to Lewenza and his cronies. I feel they failed us on all accounts. Several people asked for more than 2 hours to decide on this contract and were denied. Why on earth would they not give us time to understand the implications of the deal?? As for your accusations against Oakvilee and Windsor. The national decided they would vote on our closing agreement. Maybe Scott, Dennis and the rest of the bargaining committee should have barred that from happening. Again they failed us!! For anyone wanting to go to Oakville I would suggest they look at what the union has allowed to do with the Windsor people. TEMPS!! I find it diificult to fathom that the same will not happen in Oakville. The precident has been set!

I finally got to see the petition today. Lots of signatures, well over three quarters of the people asked. All I have to say is look out Scott and Dennis, change is on the horizon!

It is not a thread until a piece if shit joins in. We are now official!!!

You think Lewenza is going to hear about the meeting. YOU are delusional. Angry exchanges such as yesterday are expected. Scott and Dennis have been told this, Their job is is to listen and "handle" us, so it will end there. That is exactly what they have done. Don't get me wrong, I 100% agree with what people are trying to do. The meeting was only the first step that was totally expected. Now we must move forward, have Scott and Dennis booted then go after the national. Lets protect our locals assets and our dues from the national. All I am sayng is don't over blow the signifigance of the meeting. We have a union that does the exact same thing, offers hope when non exists, just to sell their latest contract. Scott and Dennis are our local snake oil salesman. I think our brothers and sisters need ot be treated better than that or this cause will quickly lose support. On a side note, Is there anyway to discontinue sending my dues to the national while still employed at STAP?

What meeting were you at? They had to ask why everyone was there because no one would speak up. Then when we did it was just venting. Do you think they actually give a damn? Dennis is planning his retirement and Scott is planning for is big job at the national. I hope your post was sarcasm, if not you are delusional.

What should we expect to happen at the meeting?

Is it true that a class action lawsuit has been initiated against the CAW? I heard it is in response to the blatant age discrimination in the closure agreement for STAP. If there is a lawsuit how do I sign up? It is about time we stoods up for ourselves, the union threw us to the wolves a while ago!