Sherminator98
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23 hours ago, akirby said:
I'm also not convinced the EREV F150 lightning is going to work either. It won't have enough battery range for the EV lovers and if you still have to use gas then why not just buy a powerboost?
I think the biggest reason they are going EREV is to address concerns for towing and distance concerns people have. Hybrids in larger products are nothing more then power adders the vast majority of the time and don't have a significate improvement in MPG. Its about a 22% improvement around town with the Hybrid F-150 vs the most fuel efficient F-150 with the 2.7L (City primarily) but for how much more in price? I'm sure the difference in price would buy me gas for a couple of years with my commute.
If you drive less then 200 miles a day with a EREV, you should be able to use nothing but the battery for that. It would operate just like the EV lightning.
But also have no idea how well that would break down in saving gas or with CAFE either.
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https://fordauthority.com/2026/03/ford-ceo-jim-farley-says-byd-pickup-appealing-but-flawed/
Quote"They're different. How I make of it, they're totally different animals. The Shark is a ute, but if you put 500kg in the back, it's not a Ranger, it's not a HiLux. But for someone who doesn't do that every day, and they want electrification, you know, it's a pretty competitive product. I have no idea how they make money when we tear it apart."
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25 minutes ago, akirby said:
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This article says only $7.5B
Honda Kills Three US-Built EVs Before They Ever Launch, Taking up to $7.5 Billion Loss
They looked pretty terrible anyways...though the RSX looked decent.
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1 hour ago, Biker16 said:
Requirement like Insurance
From my experience, the opposite is true people underestimate the true cost of driving.
I don't know a more neutral source for ownership cost than AAA. The IRS sets the 2026 standard business mileage rate at 72.5 cents per mile, which isn't too far off from the AAA numbers.I know the rates for travel quite well and if I use my own car for travel with the government, I'm lucky if it covers gas I use.
So anyways-
Just pulled this up from Gemini (just sheer laziness)
The average cost to own and operate a new vehicle in the U.S. is approximately $11,577 per year
or roughly $965 per month, based on 15,000 miles driven annually. This figure covers depreciation, fuel, insurance, and maintenance, though costs vary based on vehicle type (e.g., $1,714–$2,676 annually for gas)
I have a HUGE issue with including depreciation-I can't write it off (normally) in my taxes and its providing a service for me to be able to go to work and do personal things.
Even with having a car payment, I spend less then 11K a year in costs. I drive around 10K a year and I'd assume my gas consumption costs are about $1200-1400 a year and spend maybe $300 bucks or so in maintenance costs for a twice a year oil change.
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I was just about to post this
Given the pricing of this, if Ford can make the CE1 CUV for $35K or so they'll hit a home run with it.
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6 hours ago, Biker16 said:
The used cars are former new cars, and a Fleet mix heavy in Larger Trucks and SUVs, which are more expensive to operate and insure. IMO it's hard for young people or anyone without a lot of money to get excited about buying an expensive liability, especially since driving isn't a choice in most of the US.
No its a requirement.
As for the expense requirement, I find ownership costs to be completely blown out of proportion to what they actually are.
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2 hours ago, akirby said:
Take that with a grain of salt. What people say they want (especially teens) and what they actually buy can be different. How many people said they wanted a cybertruck?
How many teens can afford a new car also?
A car is like house-you can say all you want about buying a smaller house vs a larger one-the vast majority of people will buy a larger house vs s smaller one if they can "afford" it
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https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/g70640014/2027-ram-promaster-city-revealed-gallery/
@Biker16 here is that smaller van you wanted...
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21 hours ago, DeluxeStang said:
Thank you. That's what I'm getting at, I understand where Akirby and Sherm are coming from, but I'm arguing there are generational differences in terms of needs, preferences, taste, and so on. It's not a case of one side is right and the other is wrong, it's just different groups with different perspectives.
Thanks To Teenagers, Ford Sedans May Return To America
QuoteA recent study - Escalent’s EVForward 2025 Teenagers DeepDive report - surveyed more than 1,000 teenagers ages 14 to 19, all in an effort to understand their thoughts and attitudes toward vehicles, in general, even though many of them are quite a few years away from making their first such purchase. Interestingly, most of them - 77 percent - said that driving is very or extremely important to them, with 83 percent stating that they want to own their own vehicle, as opposed to relying on public transportation.
Perhaps more interesting is the fact that the respondents are also highly interested in sedans - 51 percent said they imagine driving that type of vehicle in the future, versus 31 percent for an SUV and 14 percent for a truck. It's an interesting shift given the fact that SUVs currently hold a roughly 57 percent share of the U.S. new vehicle market, but this also reflects a similar shift we saw back in the 1980s and 1990s.
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7 hours ago, tbone said:
Ultimately, that only benefits Ford. Not every dealer is a parasite. Some have integrity and appreciate their customers by charging MSRP or less on specialty vehicles. Assuming you are correct, now everyone gets the “ADM”.That is a pretty bold claim-just look at the Bronco and Maverick launches a few years back.
if the demand is there, dealerships will charge an ADM on a product to make more. They are entities that exist to make a profit, not be nice
The new ZR1X costs $207K and I've seen reports of $125-135K ADMs on them. If you go with the quail silver package that is apparently limited, add another 20K to that.
Why didn't they sell it the same way Ford did with the GTD?
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2 minutes ago, DeluxeStang said:
But that points to a larger trend. That more affordable, and smaller vehicles are starting to make a comeback. You're seeing a shift in consumer priorities where an increasing number of buyers are questioning what they actually need, and rejecting what they think they need. I could see that ushering in a future where small and affordable vehicles start to make up a larger portion of the market again, and that includes things like sedans and hatchbacks.
Where is the data for this? Affordable is a nebulous term-
Affordable to one person might mean a 20K vehicle and to another a 40K vehicle and that has sometimes very little to do with income levels.
Automakers can't or it is very difficult to make money on a 20K car. Once you get cheap, it can turn customers off from buying, unless they can only buy that. That type of customer isn't best in Ford's eyes.
The major reason why smaller cars in the 1980s sold so well was they where offsetting CAFE regs of the era. But the big 3 wasn't make much if anything off them.
I think your biases are showing through, because after following the industry for almost 30 years now, there hasn't been a major shift in what is popular in vehicle type and if there was, it was temporary and snaped back.
Then don't forget about marketing etc that affects buyers purchases when it comes to vehicles also.
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2 minutes ago, Texasota said:
A Maverick Raptor? 😁
CE1 Pickup Raptor? 😛
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5 minutes ago, akirby said:
Where could Raptor expand? Explorer? Expedition?Super Duty? There was one in desert sand with blacked out King Ranch badging on it.
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6 minutes ago, akirby said:
Do you just make this stuff up? Truck sales are not slowing down. Last year Honda only sold 150k accords which is the lowest since 1978. Meanwhile CR-V is over 400k. There is no shift back to cars and away from trucks and utilities.Some numbers (take with a grain of salt since its from Gemini):
- Toyota Camry: 316,185 units (+2% from 2024)
- Toyota Corolla: 248,088 units (+6.5% from 2024).
- Honda Civic: 238,661 units (-1.4% from 2024).
- Nissan Sentra: 152,578 units (-0.1% from 2024).
- Honda Accord: 150,196 units (-7.7% from 2024).
- Hyundai Elantra: 148,200 units (+8% from 2024).
- Kia K4: 140,514 units (+1% from 2024).
- Kia K5: 72,751 units (+57.1% from 2024).
- Nissan Altima: 93,268 units (-18.1% from 2024).
Trucks:
Model YTD YTD Change Ford F-Series 828,842 -0.69 Chevrolet Silverado 587,527 4.87 GMC Sierra 356,218 19.26 Ram Pickup 335,404 -10.11 Toyota Tacoma 274,638 42.44 Ford Maverick 155,051 -1.46 Toyota Tundra 147,610 -7.47 Chevrolet Colorado 107,867 10.05 Ford Ranger 70,960 37.54 Nissan Frontier 67,027 -3.99 Jeep Gladiator 50,463 19.79 Honda Ridgeline 48,448 6.66 GMC Canyon 36,477 -5.22 Hyundai Santa Cruz 23,962 -25.2 GMC Hummer EV 17,448 24.68 Nissan Titan 1,503 -88.74 -
21 minutes ago, DeluxeStang said:
But the used car market is also screwed right now.
Its been screwed since Cash for Clunkers and automakers not overproducing. The supply has shrunk tremendously because of those two events.
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4 minutes ago, akirby said:
First time buyers don't buy new vehicles anyway. They buy used. My first new vehicle out of college was a 86 Acura Integra 3 door hatchback for $11k. That's $33k today.
There are plenty of used cars for kids to be excited about but they just don't enjoy driving like we do for all the reasons stated. Our cars are their smartphones. If we wanted to interact with our friends we needed a car. They have iphones, group texts and socialmedia.
Exactly, people of my generation equaled having a car with freedom to do things. in the past 30+ years everything has pretty much come to people, removing any need to actually leave and go some place-for better or worse.
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30 minutes ago, BenKohnen said:
I've suspected that both the Escape and the Edge are victims at least partially of the "death to jellybean SUV's" mentality at Ford, too. While both have been solid products, neither invokes actual emotion. Nobody was rushing out to buy hats and shirts that proclaim their love of their... Edge or Escape. I'm in that boat myself. I've bought merch for just about every model I sell, and certainly for my Maverick, but never in three Escapes have I bought anything that proclaims my ownership of an Escape. Edges are kinda the same. Great vehicles, you'll have people who buy them over and over, but they're not passion products.
The other side of that is the Escape is/was a good product, but it wasn't "cheap" enough for the North American market in the grand scheme of things-it was over engineered for the EU market where they sell at a higher average selling price. I'm guessing Ford didn't have that issue with the Mazda based models.
Costs didn't get under control till the post 2020 refresh when people where bitching about how cheap it felt, even though the Bronco Sport "looked" cheaper, but the materials/look are just about identical between the two on my experience with both the products.
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4 minutes ago, DeluxeStang said:
It's just if you were 20 in 1969 your choices for a fun affordable car were coupes and sports cars galore. These days if you're 20 and want an affordable and fun new car, you don't have a ton of options. It's a gr86 that's the size of a shoebox. Even the mustang Ecoboost with options is starting to become unaffordable. I've seen some in the 40s or even low 50s. A young person can't afford that.
So I'll tell you two stories about "affordability"
My old man got out of the Army in 1969 and bought a Pontiac Firebird Sprint. I want to say it was a leftover or used car at the time. I found that a 67 went for $3837 in a review. That is roughly $36K in todays dollars...or what roughly the MSRP is for an Ecoboost Mustang today. He sold if a few years later for a Ventura because they needed something more practical since my sister was born.
So lets fast forward almost 30 years. I get out of the Army and buy a 1998 Mustang GT brand new. I got my dad's A plan price (can't remember what it was exactly) but I think the MSRP was $19K. I was working part time (was going to school) and was in the National Guard at the time to help pay for car insurance, which was insane, which was $1500 a year or something (I got quotes for $5K at the time!), I gave up a lot at the time and lived with my parents for a couple years after getting out. I "struggled" because I wanted the car-but I had make trade offs to keep it. I winded up getting rid of it in 2002 for an SVT Focus because I wanted something that didn't feel like a RWD retread of my 1986 Escort GT I had in high school. Yet again I gave up other things to have that car. It turned out to be a giant POS, so I sold in 2006 for a 2006 Mustang GT. At that time I was finally making decent money and my insurance actually went down.As for your rants about boring CUVs-what it boils down to is the VAST majority of the car buying public overbuy a vehicle because its a nice to have vs a need to have. I grew up in the era of the station wagon and sedan as a child.
Sedans are fine, but what it boils down to is hey I can't fit an over the oven microwave into it (true story-I had to ask my girlfriend now wife to help me out to get one because it didn't fit into my Mustang-she had a Chevy Trax at the time) or some other large object into it, but if I spend say $5K more on a CUV (or an extra ~$100 bucks a month on a 60 month note) I can do almost anything I want with it. I think that is the reason why actual buyers gravate to them. People tend to go the route of lease resistance and the other products will only sell on price alone because most buyers are only buying them because that is all they can afford because they have a perceived "major" shortcoming, if they are forced too. That just screams to me "not a passion vehicle" in the eyes of Ford. -
On 3/6/2026 at 6:56 PM, 2005Explorer said:
As a 2026 Ranger Raptor owner I would agree with this statement. It’s “OK” but I’d question if B&O had anything to do with that audio system other than supplying a branded logo. It’s pretty much what Ford would have branded “Ford Premium Sound” back in the day. The best sounding stock Ford audio I ever had was in a 2005 Explorer with the “premium sound” including a factory subwoofer in the back cargo area. IIRC it was a system made by Visteon. I don’t know who is currently Ford’s audio supplier, but it’s not B&O.
I had the Shaker 500 in my 2006 Mustang GT and it was just ok-I find that the Ford audio is overly aggressive with pulling bass/sound as you turn up the volume.
I upgraded the audio in my Bronco-I went with 8in sub in back using the Ford sub enclosure I bought and modified. Replaced all the speakers with Kicker speaker and two Amps. I got a custom wiring harness that was plug and play and was able to install everything in about a day.
Only issue I've had was I blew out 2 subs, but that was my fault for not having it set up properly.
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11 hours ago, DeluxeStang said:
I'll add such a model could be a always to revisit the original concept of the mustang. An aspirational model that most people could afford, that was good looking, sporty enough to be fun to drive, and offered a lot of opportunities to customize it.
I dunno there seems to be such a generation divide with younger adults (Under 20) that having a car isn't exactly high on the priority list, esp. with parents seemingly enabling it at times. I have nieces and a nephew that are all under 25 and they all drive, but they don't seem to be that excited about it either. I haven't seen them really interested outside of it being just a form of transportation.
I don't think how the baby boomers ran with the Mustang when it first came out will translate the same to Gen Z, since the world is completely different.
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Ford CEO Jim Farley Says BYD Pickup Appealing But Flawed
in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
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Hey now 😛
I'd like to think that EREV would set off some people that is more of an EV then an ICE product....but there are lots of stupid people out there.