630land
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As someone just said "it gets people talking". Remember, they need to sell products to moneyed consumers, who don't care about "the car hobby" or Oldsmobile/Pontiac/Saturn. 'Hummer' gets average football fans to want to know more about it.
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Probably already seen this too, "2022 Fusion Active Prototype"
https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1125742_2022-ford-fusion-active-spy-shots
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According to Automotive News, Fusion sedan will still be around into 2021.
https://www.autonews.com/sales/ford-says-fusion-output-will-continue-least-through-2021
Didn't know if this was posted in this forum.
Also from C&D:
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a27791904/ford-fusion-lineup-dies-2021/
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Chicago Auto Show would maybe get a special trim Explorer, since factory is here.?
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"Fusion Active" concept?
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Too bad they didn't switch the transmissions to more reliable versions in Focus/Fiesta years ago, then could still be viable.
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Hoping the current sedan is around until the 'Outback-ish' Fusion is ready?
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In this are, the Buick Encore is a hit. Who would have predicted this 10-15 years ago?
EcoSport? Looks like a 4th grade art project, of paper mache'.
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2030 is the new "future is so bright" year. This new year, there's no "Jetson's flying cars" as predicted. So, push to '30.
The way some talk, they think there will be a 'cure for death' by then.
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Nissan will never again be one of the "Japan Big 3". Hyundai is now one of the "Asian Big 3"
Nissan's Jatco CVT's are #1 reason they are in the hole. Not because they are CVT design, but the poor quality of Jatco. Other reason is fleet dumping, leading to BHPH resale value. See so many 2010's Nissans all banged up and filthy, with "Drive Time" type stickers.
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Glad to see the former IL Mitsubishi plant, aka "DSM", being reused. After all the fanfare when it opened in 1988, I'd have hated to see it wasted.
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"And hopefully they no longer work at Ford. "
M. Fields
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FWIW, there was a 1974 Mustang II Mach I ;-)
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For those complaining about name, most first gen Mustangs were stylish commuter cars, not the 428/429 big block V8 screamers. Think of "six and the single girl" ad and Mary Tyler Moore show credits, with her driving a base 1970 model. Average owners had a 302 2 bbl or I6, and didn't drag race every weekend. Many were maybe dad's "work car",{my family}
Only fan boys think "all of the classic Stangs were muscle cars!"
If Ford just called this a forgettable name like C-Max {one of their worst ever}, it would not get news.
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We won't see any new compact/mid size cars in PSA-FCA dealers after this is done. Only if Millennials start to buy new cars, maybe they could come back? They seem to like SUVs, pickups,,,
No "new Sebring" or "return of Omni", and I'm sure some Mopar fan old boy thinks "Plymouth will come back!".
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Most "muscle car Die Hards" are at auctions buying old ones. Barrett-Jackson is 90% gray hair/bald men wanting their "HS/College car".
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Another thing, I am sick of hearing "old hippie" Datsun fans still whining about the name change. Nissan was used globally, and they couldn't waster money keeping up the façade for the old timers. Younger generations took to the Nissan name, before they started having quality issues, though.
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Opel's left over GM designs are fading out, so no "Chrysler Regal". Also, with car sales way down, don't expect return of Sebring, Dart, or Intrepid, as some Mopar fans are assuming. Others are demanding a "savior" to buy Chrysler and "make it American again". Who?
With PSA, maybe more Dodge CUV's for 'volume', but I think Chrysler brand will die off. They are now the minivan brand, the 300 is dying a slow, painful death. And no "new Dodge Gran Fury".
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If it was on the market as long is it was, it didn't "fail".
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Hoping "Mr. Steelcase" gets the boot. Cars/trucks are not "file cabinets".
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It's known as a "cheap SUV", so if they redesigned it and the price went up, it would lose sales. Just like the last Chysler 200. When a vehicle is known for simply being "cheap" and "huge rebates for low credit score buyers", it gets stuck in a hole.
Dodge fans are having panic attacks about Journey dying slowly. Say "I don't want to spend more $$ on a Jeep, I want a new design Journey". But, still expect huge rebates and "cheap prices" with a "new design". Can't expect car companies to build unprofitable stuff, with huge rebates anymore. No one is "entitled" to a brand new car. Can't afford new car? Get used, save $.
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All over car message boards, especially Mopar fan sites, posters love typing "FCA this", "FCA that" but then hate Fiat products. Well, what do they think the F in FCA means?
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Been like this forever. Why you have to practically yell "No!" when the F&I Manager tries to push "extra profit items" at closing.
601xx ZIP is Chicago area. We used to have even more Ford dealers. Some only 3-4 miles apart.
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"... only ZEV will be allowed "
Well, look back to 20 years ago, 1999, the 2000's were coming and we were all supposed to be in "futuristic cars" by now. Full sized pickups still rule the market.
California's 1998 mandate for more ZEV came and went, for example. A giant "we'll see".
Gladiator, this didn't take long
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All the above is why Big 3 abandoning cars. With a truck, can do the "high sticker, big discount" trick. So buyers can brag they got "$10k off sticker", and makers can still get big profits.