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Ford lost a lot of good will with car buyers, with DCT Focus, and Fusion suffered. But also, suburbanites said "cars are out of style and too small". Can't sell a "tiny car" [even if a mid size] to a Mom/Dad who have tons of "stuff" to haul for the kids.

to those complaining still about "why can't Ford still sell Fusion sedans"? Well, just go to another brand. Can still get a Malibu, for now. Or, get a Maverick, with a bed cover, and "voila!" a sedan!

When 1970 Maverick was new, 1930 was closer in time, then 1970 is to 2021!

Hardly anyone under 40 remembers the 1970-77 Maverick, so will be no association with 1970's cars. To Millennials, the 70's may as well be the 1930's, far far in the past.

Agree, Chrysler hasn't been a "premium brand" since the K-car days. I bet name will be gone by 2028. Opel/Vauxhall are now just badges on French cars, nothing GM anymore. Don't expect "the return of Opel to US", ever. And 'FCA' is defunct. Funny how Chrysler/Mopar/Dodge fanbois love using the term, but then complain about Fiat.

Oh, and how long will Mopar car guys keep using "FCA" term (since merger is done)? They complain about Fiat products, but gleefully say "FCA" as if the 'F' means "fun". LOL Hard to say Stellantis quick, though. 😉

Over at Allpar, they're still expecting "a new car line up from PSA", to replace Dart, 200, etc. And, some claim "Opels will be sold as Dodges". Umm, it's been 6 years since Sergio killed off Dart/200. They are not coming back. Any new Dodge/Chrysler will be a CUV, no "new Intrepid/Concorde/Stratus/LeBaron" cars.

Here is your modern day "Ford compact sedan", folks. Many will get bed covers, so that will be its 'trunk'.

Ford killed the Focus name in US, with poor DCT quality, thus it is same as Pinto in buyers minds. So, dream on for any 'return of Focus ST/RS' or imports from Spain. But, what about that new Fusion wagon "Outback competitor"?

"Who cares?" Paying customers who want new product.

If they do, it will be a 4 door CUV. Since that is what sells to new car buyers. Example; Mustang Mach E.

"...if FCA had a do-over, they would have never launched Fiat as a standalone brand in the US..." Then, what would 'F' in FCA mean? FCA is used over and over to mean Mopar and will most likely stick around, like DSM for Mitsubishi cars. Now the company stock market name is STLA.

"Longer, lower, and wider" Sound familiar? Wasn't the big deal about UV's the "excellent visibility"? Look at the shrinking windows! Eventually, CUV's will be like wagons, but the auto 'fashionistas' will not notice.

It's funny how Mopar fans on their fandom forums go on and on about how junky Fiat products are, and how Chrysler "should be American" again. But, in endless internet posts, say "FCA this", "FCA that", and still will after this merger. Don't they know what the 'F' in FCA means? LOL It's not "Fabulous Chrysler Association". Also, don't expect a new "full line up" of Dodge and Chrysler cars again from Peugeot as the dreamers think are "coming soon".

Good luck, I ended up trading in and glad I did. Word is out about the transmissions, and buyers are avoiding these cars.