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The CNBC article quoted Bank of America analyst John Murphy who said "GM has been a hotly debated stock for years, but we believe the fundamental Core to Future transition underway at the company remains underappreciated by most investors." Also the article said "no major research firms have upgraded their ratings yet". So regarding investor confidence in GM it's neither "nope, not a chance" prior to Tuesday's Hummer EV debut, nor "they're good to go, that's the thing to invest in" after. Just one step in the right direction for the company's BEV strategy, and something that brought the stock into positive territory YTD and last 52 weeks.

That's a good strategy for both Ford and Rivian.

Thanks to the successful debut of Hummer EV, GM's stock is now in positive territory in terms of 52 week and YTD price performance. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/22/hummer-ev-assists-gm-shares-reaching-new-c.html Morgan Stanley analyst and auto industry expert Adam Jonas made a whimsical but true comment to GM President Mark Reuss.

Yes sir. During GM's EV Day event in March 2020, both the CEO and President of GM said that the company's BEV strategy including Hummer EV represents a "historic reinvention of the company" and that each GM BEV model "will be profitable from day one". Here is the thread on GM's EV Day event.

Here's a summary of changes for model year 2021 Ford Escape from Ford's What's New document. https://media.ford.com/content/dam/fordmedia/North America/US/product/2021/2021-ford-whats-new.pdf 2021 Escape now offers the all-new Escape Plug-in Hybrid, which has a best-in-class EPA-estimated economy rating of 100 MPGe combined and an EPA estimated 37 miles of all-electric range. The Escape Plug-in Hybrid features Ford’s innovative fourth-generation hybrid propulsion system, which includes an all-new 2.5-liter Atkinson cycle hybrid engine and electronic continuously variable transmission. The plug-in hybrid system is available on every Escape trim level except S and SE Sport. In addition to potential savings at the pump, purchasing one may qualify a customer for state tax incentives or rebates; Escape Plug-in Hybrid starts under $35,000 MSRP. The Escape Hybrid (non-Plug-in), featuring a full Hybrid 2.5-liter IVCT AtkinsonC ycle I-4 engine, is now available on SE, SEL and standard on Titanium. Fuel economy for the front-wheel-drive Escape Hybrid is 44 MPG city, 37 MPG highway and 41 combined. Ford Co-Pilot360™ Assist Plus now includes Intelligent Adaptive Cruise Control and Speed Sign Recognition, available on SE and SES trim levels and standard on Titanium. 2021 Escape also features a number of functional improvements, including an updated Technology Package, standard on Titanium trim, that features new Memory Package for driver’s seat and sideview mirrors. A SecuriCode™ keyless entry keypad is included in the Convenience Package and is standard on the SEL trim level and above. New exterior options include 19-inch tarnished dark-painted aluminum wheels in the Titanium Elite Package. Class II Trailer Tow Package is optional on vehicles equipped with 2.0-liter powertrain for towing capability of 3,500 pounds. A handsfree foot-activated liftgate is included in the Technology Package and standard on Titanium. A chrome surround grille is standard on SE series and above. LED signature lighting is included in the Convenience Package. Power liftgate is standard on SEL and included in the Convenience Package. A tire inflator and sealant kit comes standard on all series, while a space-saver spare is optional on all series. Heated sideview mirrors are standard on Titanium. Six-way manual driver’s seat is now standard on SE, with 10-way power driver’s seat included in Convenience Package. Manual single-zone climate control is standard on S and SE, while electronic automatic temperature control is included in the Cold Weather Package. Dual-zone electronic automatic temperature control is standard on SEL and Titanium and included in 201A and the Convenience Package. Heated front row seats are standard on SEL and above and included in the Cold Weather Package. A rear center armrest with two cupholders is standard on SEL and above and included in the SE Convenience Package. New colors: Antimatter Blue, Bronze Fire, Carbonized Gray, Iconic Silver

Thanks again bzcat sir, that sums it up perfectly. The "product" aspect of marketing a CUV isn't appreciably different from a wagon or hatchback, just (uglier) styling for the most part as I mentioned before. But the "promotion" aspect is. Marketing people at automakers and car dealerships have done a great job with advertising and PR getting consumers to associate CUV with outdoor adventures, exploring uncharted places, active lifestyle, etc., even though the vehicles themselves aren't anything special compared to regular wagons and hatchbacks. CUV promotion is one of the greatest successes in automotive marketing.

Yes sir Black Label you are correct! Planet Lincoln's new dealership facility is at 7767 Lemmon, right next to where the Legend executive terminal used to be. The rest of the Braniff base at Love Field has been redeveloped too.

Thank you Black Label sir for sharing your experience with Hooks Lincoln. Sorry it wasn't quite the superior experience I hoped they would provide. All of the Lincoln vehicles I owned previously were used ones with over 100k miles on them. Last time I visited Hooks was in 2013. Worked with the parts department, they were fantastic. No gimmicks, no delays, friendly people all around. I guess the Covid-19 situation is causing a lot of stress for dealerships in general. Good point about Hooks being the only Lincoln dealer on the FW side of the Metroplex. There used to be a Lincoln dealer just north of Fort Worth in Hurst, North Hills LM. But North Hills shut down not long after Ford killed the Mercury brand. Grapevine Ford eventually bought about half of North Hills' new vehicle inventory and co-located Lincoln at the existing Ford dealership. Just going by physical facilities, the nicest Lincoln dealer in the Metroplex is Planet Lincoln in Dallas, near Love Field. It opened just last year (with a celebration party event earlier this year) as part of the big redevelopment of the old Braniff complex. They claim to be the largest Lincoln dealership facility in the world with over 267,000 square feet.

The only thing that separates "4WD wagon" from a "true CUV" at least in the subcompact and compact categories is that "true CUV" has uglier, tacked on styling.

Thank you for sharing this interesting comparison data Wheeling sir, very nice. Especially interesting is that the least powerful of the 4 (BMW X5 xDrive40i) has by far the fastest acceleration numbers both 0-60 mph and quarter mile and the most powerful (Lincoln Aviator AWD) has by far the slowest. When it comes to ICE powertrains for this vehicle class, BMW inline 6 + ZF 8HP transmission is the best around. Untouchable, actually.

Ford's 3Q earnings call next Wednesday may provide some insight on whether dividend on F will resume next year.

Thank you bzcat sir. Please give members of this forum who can't or won't understand the luxury vehicle market some slack. This is a Ford forum, and Ford itself has struggled to understand luxury vehicle market for a very long time.

That's more like it.

Ford's long-term plan including Jim Hackett's fitness initiatives and Jim Farley's revamp of the company isn't the issue. It's whether Ford will survive the short-term.

All of the vehicles AGR mentioned offered all wheel drive. AGR's hypothesis is a good one.