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And that customer would have lost anyways if they had that many problems with a vehicle. I had a shit experience with my 2004 Focus SVT and we've had some stinkers at times with some Ford products but over almost 40 plus years of owning them that's only been about 2-3 vehicles out of dozens of them. Sometimes you just get shitty end of the stick.

A car is not a phone or any other electronic device-two completely different approaches of doing things. Electronics get cheaper as they age-better processes in making them and more powerful with each successive generation. Do you really need a new phone every 2 years or less? No, more like every 5-7 years. Part of the reason why they aren't repairable is to make them cheaper to assemble and to meet thermal requirements. If warranty costs where such a huge issue, why is the average age of a car in 2024 12.6 years, if repair costs where that much, people would be spending money on replacing them instead of repairing them. Your focusing on a fraction of a what could be actually going on, but people keeping vehicles longer and longer shows that repair costs are negligible vs buying a new car.

They are businesses and business will find way to make profits. Not to mention that there are a few nameplates out there that can use some culling that the US market wouldn't miss anyways.

Who actually cares about that? The same issue was faced 20 years ago with lower income people and cars-cars are expensive and its just easier to buy something else that is "cheap" that might be worn out by some persons standards, but still can operate for a period of time to get them through? I get this feeling people are trying to hard to justify things that don't really matter for a company. There is a situation with a certain year of Mazda 3s that the part for clutch or something is impossible to get-but it is almost 20 years old too. I sold my Fusion Hybrid with almost 220K on it to someone who was in a tough situation (their other car got destroyed after a botched oil change or at least that was their story) at a fair market price for what it was going for.

Looks like its getting a new hybrid setup-no idea if its an ecoboost or not, but it is a 1.5L I4 hybrid https://www.me.ford.com/en/bhr/cars/taurus/ Might be an option for other C class vehicles in the USA?

https://www.instagram.com/p/DA-CV_FJioi/?igsh=MXV6dGN3dXh0NmxsOQ== https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-robotaxi-first-look-review/

Having been alive for most of this and having someone working in the auto industry from 1982 till 2004, this chart is fucking useless... The major dips are economic recessions/COVID and highs are boom periods economically. This doesn't prove your point at all.

The issue with used car pricing is the large chunk of vehicles that where removed from the roads about 15 years ago with Cash for Clunkers. Then add in manufactures not fleet dumping as much as they used to and the supply of used cars shrank without the demand doing so and it forced prices up. My nephew just started to drive last year and a decent 4-5 year old car was 20K. I remember when I started driving, I got my 86 Escort GT from my dad in 1993 for $150 bucks and it didn't cause any heart ache with anyone and that car was like $9K brand new.

Exactly-not to mention that smaller cars have a harder time meeting crash standards also. The 2024 Civic nearly the same size as a 2000 Accord

Just like everything else, everything got more expensive for the most part.

I think Rivian is starting to get that from more liberal leaning people who don't like Musk.

Its a balancing act-with just a 3% difference in profit margin, it more then makes up for lower volume (using my Escape vs Bronco Sport example). Plus platform sharing helps off set some of those costs. Then factor incentives and other things-When my wife got her Bronco Sport, the sales guy (who is a friend of mine) said the Escape has a much better leases, but I'm also assuming that is at the expense of profit margins on them. The BS has almost no incentives on them and the dealership had stupid shit like helium air in the tires that where off set by the 2K incentives they where offering, so we winded up paying MSRP on it. Why do you think Ford is pushing for a 10% margin on each vehicle sold.

Why does the F Series outsell it then? Seriously?

It has? https://caredge.com/guides/jeep-dodge-chrysler-sales-trends

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/ford/2024/10/08/michigan-central-station-ford-moves-model-e-software-teams/75481779007/