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10 hours ago, T-dubz said:
What car does this guy like? I’ve only watched the videos of the ranger and explorer that were posted here which were negative, so I quickly scrolled through his videos on YouTube and based off of his titles, it seems like he doesn’t like any car ?
He just gave a positive review on the Outback:) I've seen probably 30-35 of his videos and actually like his perspective-he is brutally honest about the crappy infotainment systems out there and the skyrocketing cost of vehicles. I also appreciate the fact that he puts them up on a lift and goes over the mechanics of the suspension, etc. And I don't know anyone who is analyzing the audio systems to the extent he is doing-graphing things out, etc. -it is beyond my mindset, but he backs up those comments with facts-instead of most people opinions.
And check out his Mustang-Camaro-Challenger videos from maybe 2 years ago-picks apart the Mustang where appropriate but that was his favorite of the 3 vehicles.
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Watched that review last night and like his channel no matter what he talks about.
Minor gripe, and I think he mentioned the new steering wheel's volume control switches being ass backward, other than that, I like most of the layout. I've not had a vehicle with a heads up display but these seem to be getting more and more common across the board.
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Ya it just seems odd that after all these years, they would swap it. It makes the most sense to me being in the middle and I'm sure you would get used to it right away wherever it is. Drove a POS 2019 Rogue rental this week and their center stack only had average speed with real time speed. I flipped thru every screen I could think of and even reviewed the manual, but no luck-you only use the gauge and after being in cars with digital speedometers for the past 4-5 years, is a very hard thing to revert back to.
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I've seen this on a few Ford's that are popping up with the full digital dash and also on a few other OEM's-thinking Hyundai? This makes no sense at all to me and can't understand the logic. Forever and ever, every speedometer has been on the right side, unless you are a performance car and now the moment they have a digital dash they move it to the left side. It is these little things to me and again, maybe most people will never care, but I'm not talking to the general public, but why do they do this? And again, i've seen this on a few other nameplates where they switch them up and i don't understand why?
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7 minutes ago, akirby said:
In all trims or just the lower ones?
The question is whether that has an impact on sales or not - and we won't really know that until the 2019s are gone and 2020 inventory is stable and they've adjusted rebates accordingly - probably around June or July.
My personal opinion is exterior styling, price and features make a much bigger impact on the buying decision than minor differences in interior quality.
Not sure what you are asking me? Sales may not suffer, but they may not come as easy as they have in the past and that will be reflected in product mix/rebates/fleet sales.
And you are mostly correct, exterior styling gets someone in the door minor cheapness in a vehicle usually is not a deal breaker, but everyone today has a much nicer interior than what was acceptable 2-3 years ago. Well, maybe not Honda, but i'm sure they will up their game as some of their vehicles are updated.
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5 minutes ago, mackinaw said:
Yesterday being New Years, we stopped by our local Ford dealer to look at some of the vehicles they had in stock (and without being harassed by sales people). The doors to the Escapes were locked, so we could only look through the side glass of a few SEL and Titanium models, but I honesty don't see what the commotion is about the interior. Looks modern and contemporary to me. I still need to sit in one and go for a test drive, but we both came away with a favorable impression.
Well the challenge is that key competitors in that segment are noticeably more upscale and a few have more distinctive styling (CrossTrex comes to mind). The interior to me in many new Ford's is really basic, functional, boring and I hate their center display between the speedo/rpm gauge. Just layout and fonts look/feel cheap. The funny thing, is everything I ding Ford for I feel completely opposite with regards to Lincoln. Almost feels like Ford is losing out at the conference table when sitting next to the Lincoln folks.
I would tell you to stop by a Kia or Subaru dealer but if you are living in Mackinaw then the closest dealer for those might be in Gaylord?
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On 12/30/2019 at 8:07 AM, Gurgeh said:
Thanks for sharing, and wow. That's a rave review as written, and then they hit it with a slam review number. Well, that's CR for you. I still remember the year they gave the Toyota Corolla a top rating and gave a poor review to the Geo Prism, even though they were the same car coming off the same production line.
I always love hearing how people spin things when they don't get a good review and CR loves Honda, Toyota, etc. The Escape is a mediocre product at best especially at $32k for a 3 cylinder motor. CR does not take into affect that it may have a $5k rebate, nor should they.
Look a little lower and it shows the Honda Passport at the bottom of the midsize category and the Edge as the 2nd place finisher. Guess we can't take that ranking either!
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Good for Ford and saw where the Aviator finished 2nd to the Telluride for SUV, which was another strong showing in a very competitive segment.
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1 hour ago, jasonj80 said:
No I'm not thankfully, I wasn't allowed to go to Law school. You'll also be dealing with an insurance company that has way deeper pockets than you do and most likely a way better attorney than you could afford. Most policy's do have comments on disabling safety systems; how far that disabling clause goes is what would be argued, even if it is an option does the driver have an obligation to keep it on. Think of it as a someone that gets ahold of another persons gun because the owner didn't take proper precautions. https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/policereports/article/Gun-owner-gets-reckless-endangerment-charge-for-13060522.php The owner actively disabling a safety system on your vehicle that could have prevented an accident and injured someone isn't going to play well in front of a jury.
well I guess anything is possible With attorneys but we don’t know how this played out either. so many of these safety systems can be turned off with people not happy with their performance. I rented a brand new Optima this week and never used their adaptive cruise control or steering assist due to the way it functioned. I’ve heard Honda’s system is miserable and they literally have millions of vehicles on the roads quipped with their “safety sense.”Of course the insurance companies have deeper pockets than I do but that is why I have insurance.
I would guess Ford believes they know better and that is why it’s programmed the way it is.
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56 minutes ago, jasonj80 said:
I'd also be very careful keeping them off all the time vs just at the lowest setting, if active or not will be recorded by the blackbox of the vehicle if you're ever in an accident. I could very easily see an insurance company saying you received a discount for having these features you disabled them and denying a claim, worse is that they say you've committed fraud as you've received a discount you were not entitled too. It would be similar to some states where if you're injured in an accident and don't have your seatbelt on you can be limited in claims ability.
That is a stretch to say the least. Why would they give you an option to them off? The insurance companies are the ones taking the risk and know how the car is equipped. If they removed an airbag that would be one thing but not a setting option built into the vehicle. I’m not an attorney but I’m pretty sure you are not either?
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What is equally concerning is that what goes for the Explorer also goes for the Aviator......so pissing off those buyers who’ve given Lincoln a chance sucks. I wonder if the Aviator buyers are getting a loaner?
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2 hours ago, jasonj80 said:
I'm sure some Ford dealers have sold an Explorer to 2 at full MSRP as well, but you're an idiot if you're paying full MSRP for either the Kia or the Hyundai just as you're an idiot if you pay full MSRP for an Explorer. The Kia already has 0% financing and both have subsidies leases on them. As for flying off the lots the dealers around here have a ton of them sitting on the lots so not sure they are flying off the lots.
Don't get me wrong they are good vehicles and Hyundai/Kia is doing what is necessary to get into the market, but a 50K Explorer and 34K Kia are going to be vastly different in equipment levels. A 34K Kia will be more closely equipped like a 37K Explorer and even then there will be features on the Explorer that are not on the Kia or Hyundai at that price. The Explorer is priced higher because it can be, just like the Highlander is priced higher than the Explorer.
I priced out an Explorer and it quickly got close to $50k and Still has what I feel is a ok interior compared to the others mentioned.
while I like some of the things on the Explorer they just fucked this launch up every way they can.
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8 minutes ago, silvrsvt said:
The Explorer is still outselling both the Teulluride and Palasades put together...and magazine competitions are tainted by advertising dollars-Not to mention who the hell buys them anymore?
The Explorer might be outselling them but Kia/Hyundai is limited in plant capacity and dealers. If you think the Explorer is the better product more power to you but to me it’s not even close.
Haven’t read a car review in years but I watch YouTube and I’ve not seen one overly positive review of the Explorer. I sat in one a few weeks ago at Car rental dropoff and it is uninspiring to me compared to the Koreans.
have a good friend who is shopping for a new suv and he mentioned Land Rover, Audi and Jag that he really likes. Then he goes and says but “I really love that new Telluide.” So that alone tells me how strong that product is. Just disappointed that Ford didn’t “go further”I will be in the market next year and I don’t see me spending $50k on a Explorer when I can spend $37 for a Kia that is way more distinctive looking and has a superior interior. Plus I’m not into turbo charged engines when I can get a proven V6.
that sucks for me since I would rather buy American and grew up in Michigan with a GM family-and I wouldn’t even consider a GM vehicle besides the new Vette.
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I am disappointed to see this happen and even more so how it happens in today’s market is unacceptable.
Maybe their sales are strong right now but I don’t see those premium prices holding up.
This market is changing rapidly and I think Ford still thinks it 1995. You have new nameplates that weren’t in this market 2 years ago like the Atlas and Ascent. And then along comes the Koreans with the Telluride which is flyingoff the lots At full MSRP and
winning damn near every head to head competition out there. Their products were brand new also and somehow managed to be a top safety pick.
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Watching the reveal and pretty cool. Not a Ford badge in site?
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Saw this last night and really enjoyed the movie. My wife who didn’t know anything about this story enjoyed it as well.
Starts a little slow but kicks in after about 15 mins and the 2.6 hours flew by.
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1 minute ago, Deanh said:
12 months apparently Kyle....much like the 3's release deposits will be taken...but apparently its 45000 nationwide...
I'm looking forward to it and this is one of those vehicles that will get my attention. Hopefully they deliver the hype factor.
One of the things I got to say, is that just on this post I have recognized a bunch of new names here and want to welcome them to the forum....let's not run them off to fast guys!!!!
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1 minute ago, Deanh said:
Ive been in them yes, impressive with some glaring fit and finish faults...have you driven the Mach-e for comparative purposes?....its sure being pre-judged...ironically by Tesla owners...stay grounded gents, wayyyy too sensitive...critique the E when when its actually released...
So that will be in about 12-18 months! Why the hell would we wait that long, when somebody throws up a post that Tesla's doomed!!! LOL.....
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The way I look at is that Tesla is really pushing the entire industry to create a better vehicle and think way outside of the box. They deserve a lot of credit, but also have a lot of challenges. Most of the things I've read about the 3 mention the paint quality but also like novanglus say it is best in class with driving dynamics. And I will give him credit, since novanglus at least has one and can comment from first hand experience.
One thing to remember is this is Ford's first jump into this arena and I'm sure they will get better and grow the market.
I actually like the way the vehicle looks and don't mind the minimalist interior-as long as it is up to standards for a $60k vehicle.
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5 hours ago, akirby said:
Possible, yes, but I don't believe that's going to be the case.
Well Ford better hope that is the case since that will cross a pretty hard line and one they have almost entirely avoided and that is why the DOJ wants to look at the info to make a decision either way.
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20 hours ago, Assimilator said:
This guy is like a troll with a YouTube channel, EVERYTHING he say is hyperbole and spoken with the considered restraint of a 16 year old who speaks with their feelings and not their head. He makes ZERO effort to consider the audience or the segment or compare it to the competition. He shows no professionalism to speak with any such authority. I don't know how anybody can take anything he has to say seriously. His Edge ST review was just as bad.
Most auto reviewers are terrible, but there are far better ones on YouTube that deserve far more attention for their effort and expertise. This guy is just making lazy emotional diatribes with his 'feel facts' like every other bias troll.
Funny I really enjoy this guys channel!!!! He is definitely passionate and tells you his opinions but I like his perspective. He is not a Ford guy but has done some great reviews and praised a number of Fords. His new sidekick knows what he is also talking about and tones down his personality-and he is very much a Ford guy and balances the perspective.
That is the beauty of YouTube-plenty of channels for us to enjoy what we want:)
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1 minute ago, silvrsvt said:
Its not like any of the players in the mid size market are really pushing the needle in driving the market either...that should change with the next gen Ranger..not sure what Toyota has planned refresh/update wise for the Taco though.
You are absolutely right besides the Gladiator but it also gets pretty expensive. I've driven several and if i was willing to spend $45K for a Ranger or a Jeep, it would be a easy decision for me. But like you said, the market is driven more from a cost stand point than someone wanting to push the product to the next level.
Ram will also be adding a mid-size truck and I would expect that offering to be very competitive.
I agree with Savagegeese-go get an F150!
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29 minutes ago, coupe3w said:
Oh no! Watch out, MY93SHO will come in and correct your grammar. LOL
I saw that and thought what an ass! Such a typical response when someone does not like what you had to say.
I love Savage Geese and think he has some of the best reviews out there. He just did one on a Mustang Bullett and it was fantastic-he praised it where it did well and was point on in the vehicle's shortcomings. The Ranger is an "ok" product in today's market and is obviously dated and should be judged accordingly. I don't fault Ford for bringing it to the market and actually like some of the things about the truck but expect the next effort to be greatly improved-until then, it is what it is.
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My guess is with higher trim levels they are not de-contenting vehicles and want to take away that option from a dealer where all of a sudden they have these vehicles ordered and just sitting on a lot.
Ford Settles Class Action Focus/Fiesta Lawsuit
in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
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Interesting that they've already bought back only 2,666 of these vehicles at a cost of $47 million!!! This thing is going to haunt them for the next 5-10 years and I think they deserve it. Just a POS product that has pushed customer's away from ever buying the product ever again.
https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2020/01/25/ford-fiesta-focus-transmission-settlement-deal/4554381002/