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November 25, 2009 The White House is pulling out all the stops to pass ObamaCare, including an attack on Gun Owners of America and the Second Amendment. Unable to pass a bill that is openly hostile to millions of gun owners, the President and his anti-gun allies are forced to try to attack us through deception. On the official White House blog, deputy communications director Dan Pfeiffer denied that the health care bill would affect gun owners. After all, he writes, “there is no mention [of] ‘gun-related health data’ or anything like it anywhere in either the Senate or the House bills.” Well, unlike so many in Congress, GOA attorneys have actually read the bills, something they have been doing since before Mr. Pfeiffer was born. So, how would this bill attack gun rights? First of all, the fact that the bills do not mention the words “gun related health data” is meaningless. Those who know even a little bit about gun law understand the increasing use of statutes which do not mention guns – and common law which was not intended to apply to them – in order to vent hatred for the Second Amendment. For example, within the past year, the federal district court for the District of Columbia used the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) to overturn Bush regulations involving guns in parks. NEPA did not purport to apply to guns. Increasingly, zoning ordinances are being used to put gun ranges and gun dealers out of business. These ordinances do not mention guns. Thirty-five jurisdictions have brought lawsuits to try to put gun manufacturers out of business, arguing negligence, product defect, and nuisance law which was not previously thought to apply to guns. And, over the last decade, veterans suffering from PTSD have been denied the right to purchase a gun. This was not supposed to happen when the Brady Law was enacted in 1994, but that did not keep Clinton’s Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) from using the law to disarm thousands upon thousands of veterans, without any due process. Turning to what is written in the health care bill, section 1104 would give the Secretary of Health and Human Services (currently anti-gunner Kathleen Sebelius) broad authority to promulgate rules with respect to "electronic standards." Subsection (B) (2), for example, amends the Social Security Act to require the Secretary to "adopt a simple set of operating rules ... with the goal of creating as much uniformity in the implementation of the electronic standards as possible." The same section goes on to require health plans to certify, in writing, "that the data and information systems for such plans are in compliance with any applicable standards ..." It goes on to provide that a health plan is not in compliance unless it "demonstrates to the Secretary that the plan conducts the electronic transactions ... in a manner that fully complies with the regulations of the Secretary ... " Furthermore, anyone who provides services to a provider must comply as well. Again, the section requires health plans to certify to the Secretary "in such form as the Secretary may require, ... that the data and information systems for such plan are in compliance with any applicable revised standards and associated operating rules ... " The Secretary is authorized to conduct "periodic audits" to insure this is so, and substantial penalties are provided for. What health-related “gun” data do we fear would be required to be submitted under these rules? Increasingly, protocols are requiring that kids (and adults) be asked by physicians about loaded firearms in the household. A keyword search by BATF of a federal database created by section 13001 of the stimulus bill – but enforced by the Reid bill – could produce something pretty close to a national gun registry. In addition, between 115,000 and 150,000 veterans have had their gun rights permanently taken away from them because the VA has appointed a financial guardian for them when they received counseling for common illnesses such as post-traumatic stress disorder – and all of this with no due process or trial in a court of law. Under BATFE regulations promulgated during the Clinton administration, a diagnosis by a psychiatrist in connection with a government program (such as the Education of All Handicapped Children Act, Medicare, etc.) is sufficient to declare the person a “prohibited person” under 18 U.S.C. 922(g) (4). Hence, BATFE could similarly take the position that a finding of Alzheimer's, PTSD, or ADHD should result in the loss of gun rights. And, under the Reid bill, this information could be obtained by BATFE under a keyword search of a federal database. Incidentally, HIPAA's privacy protections do not apply to law enforcement agencies like BATFE. Pfeiffer also writes: "NOTHING IN THE SENATE HEALTH REFORM BILL WOULD LEAD TO HIGHER PREMIUMS FOR GUN OWNERS ... Section 2717 section [sic] ... specifically lists what types of programs would be involved – such as smoking cessation, physical fitness, nutrition, heart disease prevention ...” Well, as any lawyer would know, that list in section 2717 is "inclusive," but is not "exclusive." Section 1201 of the bill (inserting section 2705 into the Public Health Service Act) creates "wellness" programs which allow consideration of behavioral issues in setting premiums and, presumably, determining activities which are so dangerous that coverage might be suspended. The definition of "wellness" includes some very broad issues, including obesity and "lifestyle." But even these broad categories are not exclusive and do not prevent, for example, the consideration of firearms ownership, as State Farm and Prudential have already, on some occasions, done. Section 1201 specifically prevents consideration of the health of a person for purposes of setting rates, but, for any other "health status factor," premiums can vary up to 30%, which may be increased to 50% under the discretion of the HHS Secretary. A "reward may be in the form of a discount or rebate of a premium or contribution, a waiver of all or part of a cost-sharing mechanism (such as deductibles, copayments, or coinsurance), the absence of a surcharge, or the value of a benefit that would otherwise not be provided under the plan." A "wellness" program qualifies under this section if it "has a reasonable chance of improving the health of ... participating individuals." One of the more intriguing aspects about the copious fraud which is being promulgated on behalf of ObamaCare is that the liars almost always accompany their deceit with a heaping dose of arrogance. We have dealt with these self-appointed "experts” before. "Politifact" [sic] called us to assert that only age, family size, and location could be used to set premiums. When we blew their theory out of the water over the phone, using the previous week's Washington Post as our source, they jettisoned their phony argument and attacked us on other grounds, without giving us an opportunity to respond. The Obama administration and congressional Democrats have spent the last several months lying to us, trying to defraud us, and working to take away our constitutional rights. GOA will continue to oppose ObamaCare – as well as any similar plan to slip gun control through the back door. © 2009 by Gun Owners of America 8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151 - Phone: 703-321-8585 - Fax: 703-321-8408 The information contained herein may be disseminated for non-commercial purposes as long as credit is given to GOA.

People need to wake up. Has anyone read the so called Health Care Bill. Do you know that there are GUN CONTROLS hidden in this so called Health Care Bill. That's why it's so important to Washington that it passes exactly the way it's written with no changes. They don't care about health care all they care about is GUN CONTROL!!!!

That's a simple repair. The blower motor sits behind the glove box. First you need to remove the glove box liner. After that you'll see the blower. The only thing holding it in are 5 screws and a wire harness. Unclip the harness from the blower then remove the 5 screws and it will come right out. The socket you need is 5/16. Good Luck. That model year had some blower problems , they tend to fill up with water that drips down from the cowl area. The water then shorts out the blower. The fix was to drill a hole in the blower housing this lets the water drip out of the blower. Right on to the carpet. Good idea from engineering.

If you would do a little research, you'll find out that all the insentives and buy out money is coming from the Pension Fund!!! It's looked at as a lump sum Pension payment. So none of the money is coming from GM or Chrysler. It's coming from PRESENT and FUTURE RETIREES!!!

I got my information in the mail on Friday. I've gone to the web site on Fri., Sat., Sun., Mon., and today. I log in fill out my choices submit my choices and then I get a messege that says that the system is unavailable try back later. This has been going on for 5 days. Is anyone else having this problem. I contacted the phone number on the letter and they said that they don't have anything to do with the web site. Does anyone have any contact information. I would just mail in my proxy cards but they didn't send me any!!!!

These are four of the five items that I have. The fifth one is to large for me to upload to this site. If anyone wants the fifth one contact me by personal message and give me an e-mail that I can send it to. Ford_Hourly.pdfFord_Trades.pdfuawfordhc.pdf Ford_Veba.pdf

I have what you want. Sent you a personal messege.

All buy out money comes from the PENSION FUND!!!! It won't come from the GOV. LOAN!!!

Yes the UAW is running the VEBA but Ford was supposed to give them X amount of dollars to help fund it. Ford did not want to give it all in cash so they talked the UAW into taking half of the VEBA money in Ford stock which closed at $1.26 yesterday. When ford gave the UAW that stock it was worth about $9.00 a share so the VEBA is way under funded when you consider how much money was lost on Ford stock.

If the company goes bankrupt our pension becomes the problem of the Federal Government. If that happens you will only get half of your pension, unless you retired early, before the age of 62, in that case you will get even less. If all of the BIG 3 go bottom up who knows if the Federal Government will have enough money to fund the pensions. We could get nothing.

I not sure if it's open to the public but there's range in the area of Pennsylvania and Racho road in Taylor.

Come on Bill S from SRP or is it BS from SRP. Any way, SRP is not a FORD parts plant it's ACH. Rawsonville and Sterling are the ONLY ford parts plants. Rawsonville and Sterling are FORD parts plants because they were brought back under the Big Blue Oval. Remember!!! SRP wasn't they are still ACH, you should know better BS. Maybe you should have left SRP when you had a chance!!! So how are things at SRP. Is Supica still there? How 'bout Floyd Mattison in Injuction Molding is he still there, he must have 50 yrs sen. by now!!!

Is this the same sailorjohn that worked at SRP. Welcome back.

I don't know about the money part of it but as of the last contract the company is NO LONGER RESPONSIBLE FOR VEBA the Union is.

Where are all the loud mouth Buckeye fans today. Sure hope you guys didn't slit your wrists or anything stupid like that. Although after OSU's WEAK performance against LSU that might not be a bad idea. :happy feet: :happy feet: :happy feet: Come on guys what happened to the mighty Buckeyes?