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In layman's terms ...What's the difference between a bondholder and a shareholder? Thanks.
A bondholder acts as a creditor to the company...much like a bank is when you take out a loan and pay interest.
When you own shares in a company you are part owner of it.
If a bankruptcy occurs the bondholders would be paid back first. Common Stock holders get whatever is left.
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never said they weren't connected.....and you keep toeing the UAW's line....
That's your problem...you don't even recall what you say...it's your brain cells that aren't connected nap. Keep supporting those that want to do away with your retirement benefits. Just don't act bewildered when you see union members past and present on here fighting for what they have earned. If you see that as a bad thing then I suggest you use your insurance for a lobotomy...it's an old procedure, but I'm sure you can find someone out there willing to put you out of your misery.
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Anger...not me.....there's more to politics than money......
If you think that money and politics aren't directly related then you are more naive than I thought...it's pretty obvious money controls both sides of the aisle...just keep on toeing your party's line.
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when you can't conduct an adult debate you revert back the grammar school tactics.....name calling....
Don't fault those who disagree with the ignorance shown on your part nap...they (as am I) are probably wondering why you would support the very party that wants to dissolve the UAW.
To put it in another manner that might turn the light bulb on in that partisan dome of yours....why would you support the political force that will ensure your pension will be turned over to the PBGC? You are intelligent enought to know that you will only receive a portion of your pension entitlement in this case right (that's if the PBGC remains solvent)? Do you want a quasi-government agency to take over your pension nap? Doesn't that go against everything your conservative "blame the liberals for big government" ass stands for? To make matters worse they PBGC does not provide health care bennies.
As I see it many UAW members on this forum are very well aware of this outcome. You, on the other hand, are clueless. I'm sure in some way your twisted logic and misdirected anger will figure out a way to blame it all on Obama if this scenario plays out...wouldn't be the first time (or last).
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Section 338-20.5 is the only section that includes the statement "(G) True or probable country of birth". This section pertains to ADOPTED CHILDREN ONLY. Obama was not adopted.Obama Adopted by Native Americans
In a private ceremony, he was adopted into the Crow Nation and bestowed the name, “One Who Helps People Throughout the Land.”
“Senator Obama, welcome to Crow Country,” said Carl Venne, the tribal chairman.
:shrug:
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Resume of George W. Bush
Past Work Experience
• Ran for congress and lost.
• Produced a Hollywood slasher B movie.
• Bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas; company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.
• Bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money. Biggest move: Traded Sammy Sosa to the Chicago White Sox.
• With father's help (and his name) was elected Governor of Texas.
Accomplishments in Previous Positions
• Changed pollution laws for power and oil companies and made Texas the most polluted state in the Union.
• Replaced Los Angeles with Houston as the most smog-ridden city in America. Cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas government to the tune of billions in borrowed money.
• Set record for most executions by any governor in American history.
• Became president after losing the popular vote by over 500,000 votes, with the help of my father's appointments to the Supreme Court.
Accomplishments As President
• Attacked and took over two countries.
• Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury.
• Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history.
• Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.
• Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.
• First president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.
• First president in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.
• First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in U.S. history.
• After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history.
• Set the record for most campaign fundraising trips than any other president in U.S. history.
• In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job.
• Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in U.S. history.
• Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.
• Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in U.S. history.
• Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television.
• Signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any president in U.S. history.
• Presided over the biggest energy crises in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.
• Presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.
• Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans.
• Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.
• Dissolved more international treaties than any president in U.S. history.
• My presidency is the most secretive and unaccountable of any in U.S. history.
• Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history (the 'poorest' multimillionaire, Condoleezza Rice, has an Exxon oil tanker named after her).
• First president in U.S. history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously go bankrupt.
• Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in any country in the history of the world.
• First president in U.S. history to order a U.S. attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation.
• Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.
• Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in U.S. history.
• First president in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the human rights commission.
• First president in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the elections monitoring board.
• Removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in U.S. history.
• Rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.
• Withdrew from the World Court of Law.
• Refused to allow inspectors access to U.S. prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.
• First president in U.S. history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. elections).
• All-time U.S. (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.
• My biggest lifetime campaign contributor presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation).
• Spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in U.S. history.
• First president in U.S. history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community.
• First president to run and hide when the U.S. came under attack (and then lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)
• First U.S. president to establish a secret shadow government.
• Took the biggest world sympathy for the U.S. after 9/11, and in less than a year made the U.S. the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in U.S. and world history).
• With a policy of 'disengagement' created the most hostile Israeli-Palestine relations in at least 30 years.
• Fist U.S. president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.
• First U.S. president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the U.S. than their immediate neighbor, North Korea.
• Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.
• Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated U.S. law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts.
• Failed to fulfill my pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive.'
• Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of our country at the United States Capital building. After 18 months I have no leads and zero suspects.
• In the 18 months following the 9/11 attacks I have successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States.
• Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in U.S. history.
• In a little over two years created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided the U.S. has ever been since the Civil War.
• Entered office with the strongest economy in U.S. history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.
Records and References
• At least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not available)
• AWOL from National Guard and deserted the military during a time of war.
• Refuse to take drug test or even answer any questions about drug use.
• All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my father's library, sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
• All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
• All minutes of meetings for any public corporation I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
• Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.
• For personal references please speak to my daddy or uncle James Baker (they can be reached at their offices of the Carlyle Group for war-profiteering.)
Don't let the door hit ya George...
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Government Bail outs...
If you take a shower before you go to work, you get bailed out...
If you take a shower after work, you get thrown out...
Quote: President of U.S. Steel.
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It's not right to post someone elses personal info on here...no matter how effed up their opinions are.
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Exactly! You're obviously a McCain supporter, why else would you put up a video that portray's the left as such arrogant assholes.
Bravo! Spoken like a true Obamican! The State of Denial is a wonderful place isn't it? :shades:
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What a bunch of uninformed wingnuts...
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Right, they took control by winning the '06 elections running on promises to fix the economy, .......pelosi was going to take us to energy independence....instead gas prices set a record.....and since you brought up the Iraq war.....why didn't they vote down funding?......you and I both know...the '08 elections....but now they'll control everything, so they (you) will have no one to blame but them!....my point in all of this is I see a pattern on here and in the media of excuses being made even before he takes office.......the economy is no much worse than it was 2 weeks ago and in everyone of his ads he was touting tax cuts for 95% of Americans.....how about the fact that they let the ban on off-shore drilling expire....just in time for the election and now the dems are saying they will reimpose it....say anything or do anything to get elected.....
You're a mess man...
Why even read the rest of your tirade when the first sentence is flawed. Funny how soon you can forget recent history, huh nap?
Get a grip.
Democrats Win Control of HouseEarly Wednesday, the Democrats had enough seats in the House to push the Republicans out of the majority -- a development many experts attributed to doubts about President Bush and the U.S. occupation in Iraq.
In your sig don't you mean the worst President since Jimmy Carter? Good god...
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Excellent points on the myths of the D3.
Unfortunately, there are a ton of battles going on and many forces that stand behind blocking the bailout for the D3.
Here is one example:
Senators Shelby and Sessions, both from Alabama, are staunchly opposing any bailout of the Big 3.
Oh...btw...Alabama has three major auto plants owned by Mercedes, Honda and Hyundai.
Divide and conquer...
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Analysts at JP Morgan have already questioned whether the UAW is doing enough. Legacy costs and labor costs have already been brought up in the media.
This is not a bailout of the Big Three, this is a bailout of the United Auto Workers Union. That's what this is all about, folks. It is a bailout of the United Auto Workers Union.Read the rest from Rush Limpbaugh here
At least Phil LeBeau on CNBC points out that the UAW has in fact already made concessions...not that that will matter I'm sure. This is a continuation of the demise of the middle class. First it was the steel industry...then the airlines...now the auto industry. Sad.
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Oh Please, Anyone with half a mind knows that the economy is in the shitter mostly because of the Dems.
Gee, thanks for the insight man...why let historical numbers get in the way of a party blinders.
"there's nothing wrong with living like a Republican. But if you want to live like a Republican, vote Democratic."
Harry Truman
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Jan 19, 2001 Dow = 10,587
Nov 12, 2008 Dow = 8282
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I currently am running a roofing business, as business is plentiful in post-hurricane Houston. It is more physically intensive, dangerous, and requires far more skill than any job held by a member of the UAW. My employees (at all levels of the totem pole) work their asses off for better pay than most companies offer, but nowhere near the money that UAW employees demand and recieve. There are serious injuries on a daily basis. We have no retirement plans. We can't even offer medical insurance. Yet there are about 300 employees that have left their families across the country to work for me. They never complain
So I have great standing when I strike down the UAW. They don't have a clue what an honest day's work is. They don't have a clue what an honest wage is. Most of all, the UAW doesn't give half a shit about hard working Americans. They simply have no perspective from which to relate.
I'd be careful with blanket statements like that versa...you surely will generate some heated rebuttals. Don't believe everything you read regarding UAW workers being lazy and milking the system. Does it happen? Most definately. Does the media beat that point home? On a daily basis.
As with any company Ford, GM and Chrysler have their share of employees who on take it upon themselves to do as little as possible. Fortunately there are many UAW workers who pick up the slack and actually do more than they are asked. The system is not perfect by any means, but don't lump in the best of the Union workers with the shitbags that abuse the system. That is a very myopic stance on your part.
If you want an idea of what kind of work UAW members have done in the past look at the retirees. Many are hunched over with poor posture and suffer from severe arthritis due to performing repetitive tasks. Don't judge them til you have walked a mile in their shoes. I could go on, but you get my point.
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One thing is for sure...all those voters who thought that just the election of obama would retore confidence in the markets must be elated that they voted for him.....the markets have really responded....-800 points in less than a week!
Another thing is for sure...you haven't uncorked your head from your ass.
Busch: Recessions Will DeepenThe fallout from the nuclear explosion in the credit markets continues to disperse throughout the world. November is when we see all the data for October and tells us what happened when high yield bond issuance, asset back commercial paper for credit cards, and the IPO market all went to zero. Now, we're getting the earnings and cash burn from companies that were most severely impacted.
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When the first amber sliver of the morning sun peaks over the horizon you instinctively know that it is only the first indication of more to come.
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What other choice do we have?....I can't support the income redistribution, the social programs or cuts in defense spending...
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I will agree that the war has ruined the lives of many of our soldiers (many of which are my closest friends) and their families, but I will reserve my judgment of it's affect on the Iraqi people for at least a decade. To say that we have ruined their lives currently is just rash. Things take time. History teaches us this.
I think history is being made tonight my friend...John McCain is giving his concession speech. He is a stand up guy. I will always admire him for his service as a Soldier and a Senator.
I have many friends who have served and have seen first hand the effect on families as well. One must wonder how many more lives would have been ruined if we "stayed the course in Iraq" for years to come. It's time we focus on our backyard...
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Bush might have made it easier for people to ruin their own lives, but Obama will do so directly. You are talking about the credit and bankruptcy laws, correct?
I personally foresaw the credit crisis well before it began. I haven't suffered a penny from it. Any money I lose, I can only blame on me.
Actually, I was referring to the Iraq war. But, since you mention it - the fact that bankruptcy laws for the individual changed while bankruptcy laws for business stayed the same was a foreshadowing of where his allegiance stood and what was to come.
The Republican party is in shambles. They need to regroup and find some new blood. They have swung too far right and the last two elections speak volumes regarding their disconnect with the American people.
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Absolutely. For me personally (in my current situation), I will benefit greatly from Obama's policies. I'm still leaving. I will not sit around and watch Obama ruin people's lives just because it benefits me. I never thought I would say this, but I'm applying for Canadian Citizenship. Things could be worse I guess. I figure I'll start an OEM parts supply business close to the Michigan border. Either that or I'll start farming Marijuana for illegal distribution in the US.
Ruin peoples lives...thats funny. Especially when you think of how many lives Bush ruined.
Speaking of ruining lives...take a look at Fox News...bunch of whining f***ing maggots. This shit is entertaining. Especially watching Turd Blossom and that wing nut William Kristol. Screw them and their neocon agenda...they just got pissed on.
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Its already been established that factcheck.corg cant get its facts straight.
Here is just one example.
http://www.plumbbobblog.com/?p=1417
Also ,why would Obama have this birth cert. thing still hung up in court
if he didn't have anything to hide?
get real.
Is this all you can come up with Dale? Jeebus man...the case was thrown out!!! Get over it already...
Judge rejects Montco lawyer's bid to have Obama removed from ballotA federal judge in Philadelphia last night threw out a complaint by a Montgomery County lawyer who claimed that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was not qualified to be president and that his name should be removed from the Nov. 4 ballot.
Philip J. Berg alleged in a complaint filed in federal district court on Aug. 21 against Obama, the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission, that Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya.
Berg claimed that the Democratic presidential standardbearer is not even an American citizen but a citizen of Indonesia and therefore ineligible to be president.
He alleged that if Obama was permitted to run for president and subsequently found to be ineligible, he and other voters would be disenfranchised.
U.S. District Judge R. Barclay Surrick had denied Berg's request for a temporary restraining order on Aug. 22 but had not ruled on the merits of the suit until yesterday.
Obama and the Democratic National Committee had asked Surrick to dismiss Berg's complaint in a court filing on Sept. 24.
They said that Berg's claims were "ridiculous" and "patently false," that Berg had "no standing" to challenge the qualifications of a candidate for president because he had not shown the requisite harm to himself.
Berg could not be reached for comment last night.
The nonpartisan Web site FactCheck.org examined the original document and said it was legitimate.
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