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thats about right i wish they could see all the face's of the people they screwed

A bunch of us retirees are going to be there i'm sure we will video it and post it up on youtube

View Postwptski, on 12 January 2010 - 06:59 AM, said: So, even after the new case, you have the same exact problem?? I know slowing down but not stopping and then pressing the throttle just a little bit hard while cause a downshift. A bit too touchy for me!! How about this TSB? tsb09_18_03.pdf I had this one done and it really helped my shifting issues but they weren't anything like yours!! Got this TSB applied today. Much better...... agreed this is a great TSB if you have an early build Escape do it

STAP .............but don't think you want to transfer there ...lol

Well it seems London Ont is wanting to buy and stockpile as many CVI's as possible................hmmmmmmm that says something for the old girl

OHHHHHHHHHHHHH SNAP.............................now that was good

Wow what a heart felt video .........i agree all STAP's should watch this

i was young (18) and had some "issue's" what my point is that that is when the union did there job and helped the workers ...that is what a union is we wildcat-ed when a worker pulled a formans tie and was suspended you guys need leadership .....not yes men

Your Dam right Smitty is going national ..thats his reward for towing the bullshit line When we left the union was in ok shape ..some balls ...but this is crap ......time to start taking things into your own hands start at frame line and walk we have done a wild cat before and you guys can do it again ...........what the hell you got nothing to lose ..closeing in less than a year and a half you know in the first year and a half i worked at stap i had 52 unauthorized days off ..Gordie Cambell saved my ass ...what ever happened to that union Mark your Dad was kick ass !!!!

That is so true as to the O/T issue yes your scheduled 10 ....but they should have given you guys a heads up ...and what the hell happened to 8 hrs only on Fridays ...they new they were down on production Monday this is going back to the early 70's with this shit where the hell is the union when this is going down ....reps should be out on the floor talking to the peeps

nobody go ????

good call that is exactly the way it went down yes the members had a good idea the plant was closing ...but as is said before it is the unions job to do whatever to keep the plant open ...or that being said to get the very best closing deal they can ...ie at least the same as GM and Chrysler Dennis ? ......Mark ?.....Bear ? you must be reading this ...how about a comment from you guys

moe ...you are so out of touch its pathetic ...........you must love the taste of Lewwwwnza in your mouth Yes FoMoCo is the boss but the Union is there for the members to FIGHT for the members ..to strike for the members ..to do whatever it takes for the members In years gone by there would be a plant occupation to stop this .....where are the balls of the CAW ...Lewenza is the weakest leader we have ever had You Know its strange i wore my UAW 1520 winter parka for 30 years always got ribbed about it by the union guys ...kinda ironic they ( the members) had the balls to do the right thing Proud ....... to have started my auto life as a UAW member not proud ....to have ended my auto life as a CAW member

And you watch ...old scotty will "happen" to get a job in the national ....just for being a good tow the line talking head Lewwenza truly is an idiot I wish he had the balls to come on here and apologize for fucking his members

Well all i can think to say is ...to all that did get the full retirement package ...( alot of you had the chance to retire when i did ) i hope you didn't vote yes just to line your own pockets you screwed your own friends ( alot of you had the chance to retire when i did ) to those 500 or so that are in the screwed bunch ...why why why ...you got nothing my advice to you guys look for and get a job now ...because when they close the plant there will be slim pickings for any job in the London /St Thomas area at least 700 other peeps will be doing the same thing hey can you imagine if they had 500 peeps quit before the 2 years is up .....HIRING at STAP .....lol

WTF STAP ?????? why the hell did you guys vote for this ?

ED.....i am a retiree and i know that a yes vote is good for me ...but i would rather see the guys turn this down what can you say there getting for this ...nothing !!!! a veiled promise for Oakville ..thats it As for Barny ..for me its just i would want to know that a had a chair that is in there fighting and standing up for my plant for me its just i never saw Scott as a fighter ....but this is all moot now anyway just think and ask questions ( if you can ).........................VOTE NO

good post gocash you guys need the concrete wording on all these points ...what if any plants can you guys relocate too and what of the tax implications of taking a buyout ...in regards to EI ...will you have to use up all your payout before claiming EI it won';t do you any good to get $100k to pay off your mortgage and have no EI for 2 years what about a grow in to retirement be smart know what the hell your voting on VOTE NO

no you are not restructuring but closing...you will only get a severance package so it will be a different package than what we got when we went to 1 shift that was restructuring as for Scott i told you guys to vote for Barny .....he would not have put up with this shit think about this the UAW turned it down why should CAW be patsy's............ VOTE NO...............there is nothing here for any of the Ford locations VOTE NO

Thanks gocash ..as a retiree i appreciate what you have said we based our life on what we get ...no OT for us ..lol that being said i for one would give up 10% to guarantee STAP a product...Stap gave me a great life for 30 years ...but it would be only for a long term guarantee i agree 100% with your post ..all solid you should be in charge instead of Lewenza

this is such an accurate statement look at the mini, the landcruiser ..fj40, the rx8 ..so many 100,000 unit products how come Toyota Honda Bmw can make a go of 100,000 unit products

its all about the LEO's and Livery at this point there's just no way there going with a D3 ..................................so Ford gives up the whole market to Chargers and Envoys ???????? and since NYC reversed its decision no more Hybrid Escapes cant imagine any D3 holding up to any abuse they are a weak design

so the CAI guys are doing OT ? ....just heavy hoist or others ?

Thanks thats what i meant Focus on what your going to get if there is a closure as said above if you have 30yrs do you get a severance package ? ..do you get what we got 70k plus car voucher ?..etc..etc Scott and the boys should be quelling these rumours now ..enough of the crap

Hope you guys get a good package ....thats where the focus should be at I can tell you retirement is great