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That torque tho 🤣
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On 4/17/2024 at 10:41 AM, rmc523 said:
They need to lower prices like they've done on Mach E and Lightning. Somewhere in between release pricing and what they have now.
On 4/17/2024 at 2:39 PM, silvrsvt said:They dropped the price on the Bronco Sport this year...its roughly only a $500 difference between it and the new Escape on the low end.
On 4/17/2024 at 3:16 PM, rmc523 said:Bronco sales are down 25.79% for the year through March.
This is the concern I've voiced a few times on calling things commodity when the new wears off of them, sounds like Bronco and Bronco sport are turning into commodity products already if they can't command a premium anymore. Obviously the economy is playing a big part here, but if Ford can't keep the product fresh and "gotta have it" they aren't going to be able to generate the margins they want unless they can find more efficiency on the engineering/production side. Not saying the sky is falling or they're bad products or anything like that with a small amount of data, but it is a little concerning. -
28 minutes ago, silvrsvt said:
The problem is that you have all that extra weight in the engine block that isn't necessary for gas engine due to the lower compression ratios. I'd also venture to guess that the setup for the heads for a Diesel and Gas engine could be quite different also, depending on what they use.
Weight would certainly be a drawback, but I imagine it's not of much consequence in the class truck they're building them for. Few hundred extra pounds is a drop in the bucket paid off with higher dependability and longevity. I think it's more about making these things survive in this weight class, all that extra weight aids in cooling and rigidity under heavy load.
Diesel heads are usually pretty limited air flow wise at higher rpm (where gas engines usually live), but looks like they are mimicking the same or very close rpm range between gas and diesel with this one. All conjecture on my part, but it is an interesting engine.-
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25 minutes ago, twintornados said:
Just a hunch, but my guess is the 6.7L Gas Cummins will crater similar to when GM diesel-fied the 350 Oldsmobile motor back in the late 70's, early 80's. It may be a good diesel, but it don't think it will translate to a good gas motor. Only my opinion.
I don't know if anyone has tried making a diesel engine a gas engine before, but it sounds like a way better idea than trying to make a gas engine a diesel. Diesel engines are way heavier duty, so should make for a very strong/reliable gas engine I would think. The hp/tq curves and the rpm they make them at are pretty crazy for a gas engine. -
19 hours ago, brucelinc said:
If a base engine is necessary in the Mustang for CAFE reasons, I think the 2.7 eco would have been great. It is smoother than the 4, sounds better and can get excellent mileage with appropriate gearing.
ecoboost v6 would probably start to create an issue with it being faster than the v8, especially in a light car where the tune can be a little happier. The 4 banger has more hp than the gt did until the coyote debuted, I think it's fine for the base model. -
On 3/31/2024 at 6:17 PM, Rick73 said:
Good to hear some drivers go with windows down, because my initial reaction was whether this is another “solution in search of a problem”.Honestly, I rarely or ever notice drivers on the highways driving with windows down; other than maybe an occasional beater that I assume air conditioner doesn’t work. Where I live “nice” weather is limited, so I only see a few cars in neighborhood with windows down in Spring and Fall. Even that is rare, and at low speeds, buffeting should not be as bad.
I suppose one could argue that if buffeting was eliminated, more drivers and passengers would actually enjoy the fresh air. My version of that is riding a bike, because in vehicles windows stay up. I like silence.
I've always had at a minimum an aftermarket cat-back on everything I own, but things started to change after I bought the completely stock 64 continental a few years back and just left it alone.. the quiet/smooth was really nice. I had plans of cutting it up, putting on air ride, big hp engine, etc. Cut to present day and I just added probably 100 lbs of sound deadening and insulation to my 96 F350 I'm almost finished restoring. Also converting all my mowers/weed eaters/blowers to battery for my lawn care business because they're quiet (well, and save money/good for the earth and whatnot). Also looking to swap out the 6.4 sooper poopy for a BEV pickup soon. Maybe I'm getting old 😅 Still like riding with the windows down when the weather permits though in the older ones - the new ones are trying to give you an ear clap when you try.
I do agree that you rarely see people with their windows open on the road anymore, maybe some fresh air would help some of them not be so absorbed in their own bubble and stop being so oblivious to what's going on around them.-
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41 minutes ago, akirby said:
I think they just took all the vehicles currently registeredon and reported the percentage of each brand. So 14% of all vehicles were Fords.
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As a smoker (I know) and someone that just likes driving with the window open when it's nice out, this issue drives me insane in the newer cars. Really, really bad in the sooper poopy with one front window open and one back window open when I have someone else back there that wants to open the window, like it's beating your ear drum in.
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Had no idea iPhone was that much of the market, I always assumed they were like Tesla.. people that have them love them, but everyone else finds them weird and foreign. Guess I learned something as a now smaller market share Android user lol. Have always liked Samsung and Android, but much like cars, everyone has an opinion on what's best.
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I had it on my wall when I was still at the age where I printed out car pictures and stuck them to my walls in my bedroom lol
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On 3/19/2024 at 9:05 AM, Flying68 said:
The underlying local news article doesn't even mention if the driver of the Mach-e had Blue Cruise enabled at the time. The only facts were that the driver stated the CR-V was stopped in the middle lane without any lights on at approximately 9:30pm. Given highway speeds of 65 mph, he may not have seen the CR-V in time to avoid hitting it.
Clickbait headlines at work-
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1 hour ago, akirby said:
I expect T3 to be a lot more like the Rivian but still retain Ford’s unique truck features and versatility.It's hard to tell scale on the pictures/videos, but when they park them all together the Rivian looks a lot more Ranger/Tacoma sized than a half ton truck. I've seen a few around here, but they're pretty rare.. they do look midsize on the road too. Do you think the t3 will be in the Ranger class? or do you mean that in the "lifestyle truck" sense?
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20 hours ago, Rick73 said:
Car and Driver did similar comparison, with similar vague language. IMO these three vehicles are so different that direct comparison is influenced too much by reviewers’ personal preferences. I would place Cybertruck last on (poor) appearance alone. Rivian seems best to me (prefer smaller size), but I wouldn’t buy a Rivian not knowing how well the company will do in future. Not that I need or want any $100,000 pickup.
I agree they're wildly different takes on "pickup truck" and not easily compared. Rivian appears to be a very nice vehicle and it seems everyone that has one loves it, but it's a lot smaller than the other two and not really intended for work.
I personally like the Cybertruck's uniqueness, but I am concerned it won't age well once the new wears off. They like to pretend they made it for the "working man", but side by side compared to the Lightning there are a lot of features and work truck things missing along with low visibility and terrible mirrors if you intend to tow (though it does have the cameras which are nice). I like the tech and it'll only get better with software updates as they figure things out, but right now I think I'd pick Lightning if my Cybertruck order came up today.
Lightning is a really good first effort, but is compromised some by using the same frame as the rest of the lineup, thought it does have a big advantage on the frunk where the engine used to be. Hoping a second gen can maintain the traditional truck look while improving where it lacks in range/tow rating. I'm not sure I'll like the t3 version, but obviously will need to wait and see.
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I've seen a few people warning this was the next bubble to burst over the last couple years, over here trying to figure out how I can get rich off of the car market crashing.. seemed simpler with the housing one 🤣
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Water pump on my 96 7.3 failed at 370k miles a couple years ago. JUNK!
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18 hours ago, Rick73 said:
Reports indicate R2 won’t be available until first half of 2026, which is two years away. R3 will likely follow by another year. If Rivian only has 18 months of money left, they will be hurting unless they secure additional funding. Read somewhere that Rivian projects flat sales through 2024. That also won’t help with cash flow or attracting investors. A lot of these companies are overly optimistic, so flat sales could easily become declining sales. My first thought about revealing R3 and R3X so early was that it was mostly to attract investor interest.For what it’s worth, shape of R3 and R3X from side look like a car from the 80s, maybe the VW Rabbit? I don’t know, it just doesn’t look right to me. Looks dated. I do like interior with fold-flat seats to improve utility. Ford could do the same since they have folding front seats already in smaller Euro Transits.
From tech standpoint I like Rivian’s use of 4695 battery cells. It may add 15 mm (0.59 inches) in height over 4680 cells, but allows for a lot more battery capacity in compact vehicle because of their limited footprint. It would not surprise me if other manufacturers like Ford and Tesla start using 4695 cells in smaller vehicle platforms also.
I don't remember if they covered it during the reveal, but if they're taking reservations that might help prop them up a little longer. I also imagine Bezos or Amazon would infuse with some cash. Worst case someone else buys them out. Seems like they're really close to turning the corner, but who knows with an automotive startup.
And yeah, even with all the hype around Tesla's 4680s it seems like Rivian makes better use of their battery packs - I'm not deepy versed in the technical details, just an observation. -
18 hours ago, Rick73 said:
Talking about smaller EV platforms, competition could be heating up even more. Rivian revealed today their R2 SUV which is smaller than present R1. I think they call it mid-size rather than compact. Rivian surprised by also revealing even smaller R3 and R3X models, though these two are years away. R2 should come earlier. All are projected to have 300+ mile range. R2 is estimated to start at $45k for single motor. Two- and three-motor variants will also be available.
Anyway, these Rivian should be of interest to those here who like traditional-looking SUV instead of proverbial aerodynamic “jellybean” or “blob”. Video below of reveal was condensed, though still long. If you like square shapes, these should make you happy. 😆
https://www.cnet.com/videos/rivian-r2-r3-and-r3x-reveal-event-everything-announced-in-8-minutes/
If nothing else, it shows Rivian believes 300-mile range with boxy shape is possible at a mid-range price.
Rivian makes some really nice products from what I've seen. Unfortunately they're struggling to make money on them, so much so that if things continue as they are without change they have about 1.5 years of money left. I think they're positioned really well if they can pull through, and the R2/R3/R3X should certainly help volume if they can deliver on the range and price points. Watched their reveal event the other night, was pretty good. Was funny how proud RJ was about putting two glove boxes on the R2 because people complained the R1s didn't have one lol -
7 hours ago, Rick73 said:
If nothing else, Fusion exterior appearance could be way better than Honda Accord and Toyota Camry, which have become hard to look at for my taste; especially the Camry. Toyota front end styling are hideous. Not to get off topic, but in my opinion part of the issue is that Ford seems to resist entry-level vanilla-flavored offerings, which is where Accord and Camry do well. That leads to “affordability” for the masses who care more about price than performance.Whether BEV or ICE, a large percentage of population just wants affordable and reliable transportation that looks good.
I think it's the "reliable" part that Ford can't nail down with any consistency, so they just gave up. Sometimes they make the most reliable longest running thing you've ever seen (like my 400k mile 96 7.3 zf5 😎) and sometimes it's the biggest pile of poo that was ever released (like my 03 6.0 or 2010 6.4). People that buy "commodity" products don't care how fast it is, how efficient it is, how cool it looks, etc, they want something that gets decent mpg, doesn't break down, and is affordable - they aren't car people and they're passionate about not having to deal with their car besides driving it a-b. This is where Toyota/Honda do well because they have a decades long reputation of reliable/efficient/affordable transportation. Ford is going after people that can overlook the issues because the car speaks to them on an emotional level and they HAVE TO HAVE IT and that brings more margin.
5 minutes ago, akirby said:
Theyre not pushing anything. They’re offering products that people want to buy. Bronco short lived? That’s utterly ridiculous as is everything else you’ve said lately.
Old woman yells at cloud aside, I do wonder where the end game of passion products ends when/if others enter the same markets with competitive product. Does Ford have to keep hitting home-runs in niche markets indefinitely as competition enters segments they're currently excelling in? Does bs/maverick/bronco end up being commodity 5 years from now if someone does them better/cheaper? Or does Ford just keep jumping head first into currently unoccupied or poorly occupied segments?-
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5 hours ago, Rick73 said:
If Farley is saying that equivalent BEV must cost no more than $3,000 to $5,000 more than ICE counterpart while making a profit, it will be interesting to see how that’s achieved. Price parity has been discussed for years, but remains an elusive goal. Less than $5,000 is getting close if they can pull it off.
Much like you're "obsession" with the end product being efficient, I focus on efficiency in the engineering/manufacturing process that can have a big impact on costs and margins. There's a reason Farley keeps talking about emulating Tesla in that regard and they're the only ones turning a profit on BEVs. Obviously volume will help too if Ford can figure out a compelling BEV product at a reasonable price and has the battery supply to deliver it. Mach-E and Lightning are pretty damn close and great first efforts, but both compromised from the jump for various reasons. Hopefully we see even better product and more success with the 2nd gen stuff and maybe the larger/more reliable charging network available now will have some impact on sales as well. Will be interesting to see what they come up with.-
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On 3/4/2024 at 11:18 AM, ice-capades said:
Nothing like a good conspiracy theory to stimulate a discussion!
I thought up a conspiracy the other night that Elon was letting everyone use his superchargers and was just standing by until everyone switched, then was going to send the full juice to them and burn all of them to the ground. I sobered up and realized that was ridiculous, but would be a good one.🤣
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On 3/4/2024 at 6:45 AM, silvrsvt said:
I wish they did something more with the Zephyrs C pillar-its screaming fusion/Mondeo to me.
I can't unsee it now that you said it. Pretty good looking, sophisticated, sleek, modern design and then a Ford sitting on top of it. -
Maybe Ford can try minivans or station wagons again to keep everyone on their toes
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I think his question was more "why doesn't a 100+ year old company know how to make a headlight connector?"
I'm assuming this is all an intermediate step trying to get a hold on quality before engineering/manufacturing catch up in coming years, but sometimes it just makes you shake your head...
And before anyone attacks me, of course it's a good idea to have a stop ship and fix it, but the goal should be (and I'm assuming is, just seems brutally slow) to not need a stop ship in the first place. -
Watched this this morning, drags on a little, but looks to be a pretty seamless experience. He says in the video he's interviewing Farley soon too which could be interesting.
What's your favorite modern Ford color?
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Are they still doing Ruby Red? I liked that one on the mustangs.
Painted my '95 F350 deep impact blue, but I think that one has been gone for a while.
'96 F350 got hok brandywine, but it's similar to what ruby red was/is, maybe a touch darker, but similar flops in sunlight.