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I am not sure why they are picking on Chrysler. This goes on at Ford and at GM. The guys are not scared because even if they get suspended/fired, the union will bring them back and pay them for all the lost wages and benefits.
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Looks functional and it's not that bad. Everything is where it should be as far as ergonomics go.
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See link for article:
"On a retail basis, or excluding sales to rental car companies and other fleet buyers, the Sonata has outsold the Fusion and Malibu for the past six months"
I have to admit, I didn't like it before, but now that I see these cars in person, they are nice. They look upscale, especially the interior.
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I dunno the Corrola is older then dirt..so the Cruze might do well against it. Not so sure about the Civic though, but both of them seem pretty underwhelming vs the '12 Focus.
I think it will be a nice match up between the 2012 Focus and Civic. Haven't seen the 2012 Civic yet, but the Focus is really nice.
The cruze looks old already.
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I've found there's no way a numerical rating system can capture the nuances of a car. The rankings are based on the more general idea of whether a the whole of an automobile -- rather than the sum of its parts -- adds up to something worth buying. The best all-around cars at the top, followed by successful niche vehicles (ie best if you care most about the best handling, the smoothest ride, the lowest price, etc), followed by less-impressive all-arounders and nichers.
People buy Accords based on reputation. The cars seem to hold up well over time. I am not sure it deserves a last place.
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When Mullaly came to Ford, he was a breath of fresh air and really has and is making a lasting impact.
This guy is the same old crap executive that GM has had way too many times before....OK, maybe I should give the guy a chance, but my first impresions of him are not good.
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Why on earth isn't the 6-speed tranny standard on all trims when the motor is no different? That is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.
"definitely don't test-drive the Touring. Once you've experienced the six-speed transmission's shorter 1st gear, closer ratios (identical to the Acura MDX) and quicker shifts, there's no going back to the five-speed, which provides merely adequate performance"
I guess if people want little better performance, they can get it with the 6 speed.
It's not pretty, but It will appeal to the targeted buyers....I am expecting most here will mention how ugly it is, but I think it will sell.
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Why did he even need to say anything? Seriously.... Doesn't make any sense (and, admittedly, I do vote Republican)
This commenter wins:
GM has another winner.
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I like it. I like it more than the Explorer, which still reminds me of a freestyle with a new front end.
But that could change. I still would like to see these on the road in person to make a final judgment...
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Wow, the Sonata is doing well. I wonder how the Kia Optima will do, which essentially the same car, but better looking IMO.
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Not bad at all. Econoline doubled in sales?!?!
Everything is holding up ok. I am not sure about the Flex. I was hoping the Fiesta would do a little better....
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Did he drive the Explorer?
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No, but I wish I was a Ford employee! Nonetheless, I actually bought it at retail price with incentives because it was a better deal than using x-plan (which apparently can't be used along with other incentives?)
After $1000 in incentives and $1500 down my total came to $288/month for 36 months.
Funny thing is....my cousin who DOES work for Ford (pretty high up there) he pre-ordered his Fiesta months ago and still hasn't gotten it! Apparently the company is using it for promotional means....
Great, thanks. Enjoy it! The design of this hatch model will still look good in 5+ years.
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So a little more than a week ago, I finally got my much-anticipated Fiesta, which happened to be my first ever car purchase.
Some thoughts so far on my new ride:
Quality
The quality of this car is absolutely astounding for its price range and class (but you already know that). Everyone that I have showed it to so far has come away pleasantly surprised and very impressed. Even the door makes a nice thud sound when it closes, instead of it sound like I'm closing a tin can or something. The cloth seats are comfortable and look pretty cool and the leather-wrapped steering wheel has a real solid feel to it. The only thing I have noticed is the flimsy feel of the SYNC voice button on the lest turn stalk, not quite sure how to explain it other than it feels cheap. As opposed to the rest of the buttons on the center stack and steering wheel which feel fine.
Style
I've had quite a few people in parking lots or on the road at a light comment to me about how striking a design it is for a small car. (At night the L.E.D. foglamps catch a lot of notice from onlookers, definitely a cool looking feature that I have warmed up to.) The interior looks even better when lit up at night. On the subject of lights, the turn indicators in the side mirrors look even classier in person. Another feature that has caught attention from other people.
I have read some reviews complaining about rear visibility and I am a little torn on how I feel. At one end, I am not surprised with the lack of visibility and I'm okay with the fact that it was compromised for style on the other hand, when I'm in traffic it has taken some getting used to looking in my rearview mirror and only seeing the grill and hood of the car behind me.
Also, I'm 6'1 and there still plenty of headroom and I don't have to have my seat pushed as far back as it can go which means there is still a pretty impressive amount of legroom for the backseat.
Performance
Mine has a 5 speed manual which is a hoot to drive. (in fact I learned how to drive a stick in this car) Really easy to shift and the car is even easier to maneuver and handle. So far I've managed just under 30mpg in the mixed driving that I've been doing the past week (made two back-to-back trips to Detroit from the suburbs and got stuck in some rush hour stop-and-go traffic). I've filled the car up once since I got it July 29th.
Other quirky things/observations
The door lock button on the center stack is something I've already gotten used to but it still catches other people off guard when they see it.
I'm a bit OCD especially since this is a new car and its my first car, so I wont be having a lot of food or drink in it anyways, but nonetheless, the dinky cupholders never fail to make me chuckle. They really are small or we Americans are just used to really big drinks! lol
My only gripe with the lack of standard armrest is because it means I have less places to store things like loose change, pens, etc. But no biggie, just means less clutter i guess.
Im also kind of surprised by the lack of available auto headlamps...anyone know if that will be a future option?
Another nice surprise was the auto one-touch up/down driver window( my mom's 2009 Escape Limited doesn't even have that feature!) as well as the light in the trunk area.
Final judgement: nothing about this car says "Hey im a college kid on a budget and I could care less about what I drive"
Nice little car. Looks sharp.
You are a Ford employee, right? What did you pay for the car? A plan? X-Plan?
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I can't believe I am sucked into this Explorer marketing. I am drinking the KoolAid.
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Is actually any American opposed to buying domestic? I don't think so.
Americans are not anti domestic, they are anti-crap cars. Domestic + Quality = Success.
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Dodge Caliber and Nissan Versa had a baby
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"Among those on the positive side was Chrysler, whose sales surged 53 per cent from year-earlier levels.Chrysler’s market share jumped to 13.5 per cent from 9 per cent a year earlier.
Ford posted a 19-per-cent increase, which kept it in first place ahead of General Motors of Canada Ltd. Ford’s market share jumped three points to 17 per cent.
Hyundai Auto Canada Corp. roared into the top six in Canadian sales for the first time since the 1980s – surpassing Honda Canada Inc. – with 12,620 deliveries, which represents the best month it has ever had in Canada.
On the negative side of the ledger, Honda had the worst month among the top seven auto makers with a 26-per-cent plunge.
Market share for the seven Japan-based auto makers slid to 33 per cent from 38 per cent in May, 2009."
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I saw an Edge Sport on the way home from work yesterday, it definitely stood out (to me at least). I liked it, but I stil lthink the wheels are too big.
I agree on the wheels comment. They look ridiculous.
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Ok, here are the real numbers according to the edmunds comparison:
Fiesta: Max. cargo volume, seats folded (cu-ft) - 34.6
Fit: Max. cargo volume, seats folded (cu-ft) - 57.3
That's some clever interior design by Honda....57.3 is a lot for a 'subcompact'.
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As far as cargo volume, I found this info....Is it right? Can't be....
Honda Fit 57.3
Ford Fiesta 26.0
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40 MPG in real world driving without a hybrid.
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The sedan has a bloated profile in the rear. The 5 door hatch looks awesome! Everything I've read about the car is good. Don't worry about the price, Ford discounts their MSRPs.
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Fiesta and Ody.