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3 hours ago, jpd80 said:
2.3 EB replaces base NA V6, the 3.0 EB V6 replaces 3.5 EB, it's probably a bit more fuel efficient and allows Ford to dedicate more 2.7 EB and 3.5 EB production to F150 and Large SUVs. 3.3 Hybrid will be a nice additional touch over a 3.0 V6 Powerstroke.
I don't think we'll see the 2.3 EB in F150, there's no need to change 3.3 V6 bottom feeder option save for a 10-speed auto.
At this point, offering the 2.3EB in the F150 would look like Ford was copying GM, and I think the Silverado actually hit the point of diminishing returns when it comes to engine downsizing in a fullsize pickup.
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Probably my least favorite part of this new model is the rear liftgate. It reminds me of a 4Runner or older Highlander.
Otherwise, I'm on board. Looking forward to the ST specs... and, of course, pricing.
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We have Goodyear Assurance on our (my wife's) Fusion now. Next time it snows, I'll have to drive her car to see how they do. They've been pretty good in rain, I must say.
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Yeah, right.
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Interesting that, despite the RWD underpinnings, AWD is standard.
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15 hours ago, Anthony said:
FCA US reports highest calendar year of retail sales in 17 years
FCA has only been a thing for 4 years. How disingenuous is this? ?
Anyway, good for them, I suppose. Surprised to see Charger actually post an increase YOY.
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Interesting that this model is 52 years old but only in its third generation.
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On 12/2/2018 at 12:58 PM, Fgts said:
Why would they still drop those 3 after the initial model drop, the case Regal it's literally a Malibu with a wagon/hatch awd and V6, since it's sales are up it would be ill advise to drop..
On a side note I hear the CT6 was dropped because the CT5 and Ct7/8 is similar in size not so much they have no interest in a fullsize Caddy sedan anymore. Don't know how much is true but we'll see.
Noting how almost all the other luxury brands have dropped the SWB versions of their large sedan models in the US in favor of the LWB variants, Cadillac would be following suit in replacing the CT6 with the
CT8Escala.But that's just a wild guess on my part.
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That's the very definition of "butterface."
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The press release says that these will be the engines available at launch.
I'm guessing a true base engine will come later... 2.3EB most likely?
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Question: why not install only the more robust 6F50/55 across the board? Is there a technical reason, or is this a cost-saving measure?
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In the context of the quote and thread I had assumed people would understand as it was about an Escape ST in the Compact SUV category.
My fault, then. I'm very sleep-deprived these days.
At any rate, I like the idea. The only other mainstream manufacturers that could make a competitor using off-the-shelf parts might be Volkswagen (Tiguan R) and Honda (CRV Type R), and I believe the latter couldn't care less about making a fun CRV.
Someone else mentioned that the Kuga was getting the ST-Line treatment across the pond (read: no extra power). That would be a waste of time for our Escape here... either make it hot or don't bother teasing us.
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The Durango isn't exactly in the same class as the Escape.
All you said was "SUV," though, so...
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270 eh? Apparently they had to derate it pretty significantly for truck duty cycle. I bet this thing has a gigantic intercooler in an effort to keep the aluminum in the combustion chambers in the solid phase while dragging that 7500 lbs up a mountain. Even then, those hp/turque numbers look like they still had to reduce boost a quite a bit relative to mustang and Focus RS.
^nothing above should be taken as intended to be derogatory towards Ford's choice of powertrain for the Ranger. The above is simply an engineering observation by a guy who's built a few turbo cars. I actually think these figures will compete very well against the naturally aspirated 3.5/3.6 in the toy/chevy competition.
Detuning an engine for truck duty isn't uncommon at all. Ford does the same thing with the Coyote, and Mopar does the same thing with the Hemi engines.
I, too, am curious as to how the engine will fare in a truck.
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Which is just dumb if they don't do an Escape ST, Ford would have the ONLY performance SUV from a volume manufacture on the market. Ford is trying to cut costs out of any product they have on the market - even the F-Series.
Is Dodge not volume anymore?
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Switching to Euro based C1 and CD4 platform has not been good for Fusion, Escape and Edge. I hope C2 and CD6 will be dramatically better. Maybe that's their solution to the problem.
Seems like the first 3 model years after the platform switchover were the worst. I haven't heard of nearly as many problems from 2016 onward.
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I had a similar problem with my old Rainier. Couldn't shift out of park despite the shifter being free to move wherever it wanted.
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FCA, JLR and Honda all use ZF9H which is the transverse version of ZF8H used by everyone.
Mercedes has its own in-house developed 7 or 9 speed auto.
I'm not so sure that the 9HP and 8HP are that closely related, except for the manufacturer.
Also, Honda just came out with their in-house 10-speed. I think it's gonna replace the ZF box before long.
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I stand corrected. I only remember the 8 speeds.
I forgot to add in Toyota (Lexus) using a 10-speed now.
Gotta remember, though, Ford is quite literally one of the last mfrs to go beyond 6 speeds, if not THE last.
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It was specific to the initial 9 speed design in specific vehicles. Ford thought the 8 speed ratios worked better. 8 speed trannys are common. 9 and 10 speeds are not outside Ford and GM.
FCA (9), J/LR (9), Mercedes (9) and Honda (9, 10).
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Yes, forgot international markets tax by the displacement, even (most importantly) China. GM want to play in those markets with a respectable power, 2-4.0 engines are necessary.
Reduces carbon emissions too. That's the other big thing.
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They copied the configuration, not the design.
Even the capacity is very similar to other marques, there was an opportunity to take that configuration and say,
make it 4.6 or 5.0 liters but GMdidn't do that.
So why not add that extra differentiation as well as superior power and torque and become a leader, not a follower?
"Avoiding or reducing displacement taxes in Europe" is my best guess.
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^ That's the exact problem we have, the tank not filling past 12 gallons. I assume the replacement campaign ended before we bought the car, but I'd be willing to pay to replace the tank if the price weren't crazy.
Regarding the steering wheel bolts, they DID mention that to me even though we have a '13. So I find it interesting that this recall doesn't cover that year.
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Sounds like a part issue, not a factory error.
The hits just keep on coming. My 2013 Fusion had a gas tank replacement, door latch replacement and a few other odds and ends. They really screwed the pooch when they went from the Mazda based CD3 which was bulletproof to the EUCD based CD4. I'm guessing this may also be driving the move to CD6.
Escape has had similar issues on the euro based C platform since 2012.
I know they need to get new products out the door but they have got to address these quality issues. It's really eating into profits and killing consumer satisfaction and confidence.
We took my wife's car to the dealer for the door latch recall, and I asked them about the fuel tank issue. The service manager didn't have any information on that.
2020 Ford Explorer
in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
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It's gotten good reviews in isolation, but I haven't yet seen it compared favorably to the 3.3 in the Ford or the 3.6 in the Ram.