MadManMoon
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I'm biased, because I own one, but I think the complaints about the Escape's interior are exaggerated. It also helps that I have a 2007 Shelby GT500 - talk about garbage interior! The hard plastic all over the interior of that thing is dismal, and with its age now it's a rattling mess.
I'll also take the cleaner, simpler lines, both inside and out, on the Escape to the overwrought styling of most of its peers.
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I see that C pillar and I think two things:
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On 8/19/2019 at 9:37 PM, silvrsvt said:
Mustang-S197 deep update
Shouldn't that be S550, not S197?
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I love the new Genesis grille, but the side profile is too derivative of the BMW 3 Series - just like the Alfa Romeo Giulia. Both are still gorgeous cars, though. I'd take the Genesis before a BMW or Alfa, primarily for price and reliability.
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This reminds me of an anecdote I read years ago (and still haven't been able to verify)...
It was claimed that, sometime in the early 2010s, Ford lost more F-Series pickups to transportation accidents than Honda SOLD Ridgelines in a year. ?
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What the heck happened?!
Never mind - just watched the GIF. Ouch!
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I opened this expecting to find prototype Broncos or Bronco Sports, because I read "early" as "early builds." This was a pleasant surprise!
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28 minutes ago, 92merc said:
I watched a video on Youtube yesterday about the XLT vs. XL. They mentioned a few things that were only available on the Lariat and above now available on the XLT's. There have been quite a few options added on lower trims you could never get before. You'd probably have to drop a few notches on the edition of the F150 if you truly want to compare with the exact same features.
The big one for us is leather seats (three dogs, and it's far easier to get dog hair off a leather seat than out of cloth seats!), and that still starts at Lariat.
But your point is well-taken - the truck does seem to have more standard features than the previous generation, which always contributes to the increase in MSRP. Plus inflation, of course.
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https://shop.ford.com/build/f150/2021/#/select/
Some interesting price increases here. Spec'd out an equivalent 2021 to my wife's 2019, and the MSRP went from $64K to $73K, and only $2.5K of that is the PowerBoost powertrain cost.
These trucks are getting mighty pricey!
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Forgive my ignorance, but what does "No Scheduling" and "Cleanup Scheduling" mean? "No Scheduling" doesn't mean the plant isn't running, I presume - just that they're executing previously scheduled builds.
Thanks for providing this interesting insight!
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3 minutes ago, mackinaw said:
My dad was an engineer who worked at Ford for 30 years (Engine Design). As he once told me, engineers are never satisfied. They'll redesign a part over and over always trying to make it "better." There always comes a time you have to say "done," and move on to the next project.
As an engineer-turned-program-manager, my favorite quote is, "In order to complete a project, it is necessary to shoot all the engineers."
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Beautiful! Enjoy it!
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4 minutes ago, SoonerLS said:
It seems to me that the GT-350 (especially the R) is unique in the Mustang lineup in that it is intended to be a track car, which means Ford expects it to be exposed to more use that's likely to cause (expensive) parts and assemblies to fail. GT-500s may be run harder on average, but Ford could legitimately claim that running it on a track amounted to abuse, and void resulting warranty claims. They really can't do that with a track-oriented car, which means they have to do something to offset to potential claims.
That's just a guess, but it would explain the discrepancy.
That does make sense. I'm curious to see over time if the GT500 gets its own higher rate separate from the base/GT Mustangs, since that's supposed to be a track-focused car as well.
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16 minutes ago, ice-capades said:
And this was a surprise? Did you really think that they'd price the ESP for a Shelby GT350 at anything close to a GT considering the potential claims of a GT vs. a GT350?
It was, especially since back in '07 the GT500 was the same cost as a GT, and according to the price quotes (and confirmed by users on Mustang6G), it's the same cost for a 2020 GT and GT500. So the GT350 is a major outlier here.
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I saw a 2019 Shelby GT350 at a dealer in PA for $8,100 under MSRP, so I started running some calculations to see whether I could swing selling/trading my '07 GT500 and switching up. One of the things I always check is the price of the PremiumCARE ESP (now "Ford Protect," apparently) coverage, since mine has paid for itself on most of our vehicles several times over, and the prices from dealerships like Flood Ford are too good to pass up.
Imagine my shock when I discovered that the cost for an 8-year, 75,000-mile, $200-deductible PremiumCARE ESP for a GT350/GT350R is $4,495, compared to only $1,080 for a regular Mustang, GT, or - believe it or not - GT500.
What does that say about the projected reliability of the GT350? Over four times the cost.
I'm keeping my '07 GT500 a while longer. (It has PremiumCARE coverage through 2023!)
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56 minutes ago, FordBuyer said:
Have you ever looked at the lower trim levels of the CX-5? Not impressive IMO. Cargo space and fuel mileage also mediocre. I considered the CX-5 when I leased a Crosstrek for 3.5 years. I obviously thought the Crosstrek was a better choice all around.
FordBuyer, isn't time you updated your signature?
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I absolutely love the exterior design of the CX-5 (my favorite is the new CX-30, perhaps my favorite exterior design of any crossover/SUV), and the interior design and materials are superior to the Escape (IMHO), but the super-high beltline is a definite turn-off for me. One of my favorite features of the new Escape is the relatively low beltline, especially for the front-row passengers. Outward visibility is better than almost any other crossover/SUV I've driven in recent years.
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19 hours ago, rperez817 said:
Dodge Journey used the GS platform co-developed by DaimlerChrysler and Mitsubishi Motors, first introduced in 2005. Journey is the final non-Mitsubishi model to use that platform.
LX platform used by Challenger came out in 2004.
Oh, so they're only 15-16 years old, instead of 22 years. That's SO much better. ?
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I mocked Chrysler for using warmed-over 1998-vintage Daimler platforms after that merger, but I can at least say now that, for the most part, those platforms paid off and then some - handsome, reliable, and I continue to be amazed what FCA can wring from the Challenger lineup.
That said...the shift to Fiat- and Alfa-based platforms is a huge red flag to me. Reliability of both brands is...less than stellar. I'm not sure I'll trust another FCA product once the DaimlerChrysler platforms are retired.
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20 hours ago, blwnsmoke said:
Amazing when you can consistently read a post and know who posted it without even looking at the name..... every single time.
Especially when there's a "sir" thrown in. But that's cheating.
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55 minutes ago, rperez817 said:
Yes sir. ice-capades' experience with Mustang Mach-E isn't unexpected. So called "Tesla killers" from Jaguar, Audi, and Porsche have not only failed to kill Tesla, they haven't had much impact in the U.S. BEV market in general. The other startup companies making BEV and FCEV passenger cars and light trucks like Rivian, Faraday Future, Lordstown Motors, Nikola etc. also haven't caught up to Tesla and don't show signs of doing so soon.
Meanwhile, Tesla continues to expand its product lineup (Model Y started production this year, Cybertruck and 2nd gen Roadster expected within the next couple years) and keeps raising the bar higher and higher for design, engineering, and marketing of BEV.
Design = cutting and pasting the basic Model S design from 2012 onto even the newest vehicle that debuted in 2019.
Engineering = Ongoing production issues, terrible initial quality, weeks- or months-long wait time for repair parts
Marketing = I'll give you this one; they've definitely created a cult-like following that is doing a lot of guerilla marketing for them
I'll trust any of the traditional manufacturers' logistics train for a BEV long before I ever consider trusting Tesla.
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Design-wise, the 2021 looks like the predecessor to the 2020!
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3 hours ago, coupe3w said:
And as far as the doing the turbo part of it, couldn't that be done on a niche line?
The Niche Line is at Romeo Engine Plant, not Flat Rock Assembly. And while the engine could be assembled there, it still needs to fit into the car on the production line at FRAP.
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At first glance, this looks like it could be an interesting replacement for the Bullitt, but the lack of a Shaker hood in this camo'd prototype has me a little worried...
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Brazilian Super Duty....sedan?!
in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
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I can't stop staring at it...what an abomination! I have to say, though - the effort is well-executed, even if I think the design itself is hideous.