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Great idea!!!! I will do my part and call and I will call everyday, we all need to call everyday and demand this is what we want done and this is how we want our money spent, they cant igmore us all and forever,even though I voted no,HELL of an idea

LOL, I knew a comment like that was coming from a piece of shit. Why I should just quit and how im non union because I disagree on issues like how our dues are spent and what their spent on and that I disagree with the bullshit concessions that our leadership agreed on? Does it mean that everyone in our union that disagrees with our IUAW and voted no are all non union also? thats not non union you dumb bitch.Thats all union and standing up for whats right and wrong. I bet ytou voted YES huh?? Do you think becuz you listened to the IUAW s fear mongering shit,their lies and them fucking us again and agian that your all union?? Well thats not union ,union is standing up and fighting for right and wrong and speaking out.. I am all about union and America just not all about the leadership weve had the last 5 to 10 yrs. If you cant see whats going on then your a real dumbass. WAKE THE FUCK UP and help make our union again what it once was, a GREAT union before they turned it into just another coorporation in America. Since you voted your YES and your all union and couldnt stand and fight.Thanks for fucking the rest of your union brothers and sisters, but im sure to you all the others that voted no and stood up to fight,are all non union also?? Well all I can say to that is GFY and that goes for the blogger that agreed wth you that gave the YOU GO GIRL

Hey no reason to bang me on it, if you would google what i said in blog you could read it for yourself asshole. Just blogging what i read. Again one more time google this exactly....... wages and benefits for toyota employees in America...... Read the first 5 headers or so and comments,its right there for your eyes to see. if your to dumb to google then I will post links tomorrow, Im at work right now

Funny you ask that. I read on the net last nite that a memo from Toyota was leaked out and Toyotas CEO of America confirmed it was authentic. It stated that Toyota will be slashing employees wages by more than half to 14 an hr. Honda mentioned that they want to start paying their people wages that are competitive to other industrial companies that are in the states their plants are in. Like Alabama would be 12 hr. So if that happens, you can bet your ass their going to ask fore more from us. I will try to have links posted tomorrow or google exactly this.......wages and benefits for Toyota employees in america......read about the first 5 headers and comments,one comment tells you how Toyota is with their workers in Japan,one of the reasons their so profitable and its fucked up.

Who cares if its public or not,there is was never any need of the IUAW to ever spend our money on a fucking golf course of all things. i mean why did our money go toward a fucking golf course?? Where is located?? of course right there where our great IUAW is located, for their use. Money well spent again. They need to sell the fucking thing and send us all a check. Why their at it sell fucking Black Lake also and send us all a check from that. Especially since they fucked us once again on these bullshit concessions. So SELL the fuckers and Il be waiting for my check in the mail,

Yea and its fucking people like you with 30 or more years in that is still here draining the system for all its worth and fucking things over for the younger ones wanting to make a nice living and get a retirement like youalready have and was giving. I mean really you greedy ass mf s. Really why don't you all get the fuck out and give someone else a chance. All of ya was offered full retirement and a good lump sum of money and a lot of ya didn't take it and are still here. Wtf? You have had 30 or more years of making great money,especially with all the overtime you all received all those years. I don't care if your 52 or 70 if you haven't saved enough money in that time of working for the reason of helping out yourself in retirement then your just fucking idiots. What's wrong with getting the fuck out and giving someone else a chance?? Example of pieces of shit,, we have a person that has 35 yrs in, sat in the gin pool on his ass for 3 years till it was gone then moved to my plant,of course got the moving allowance and is still here,unbelievable!!! So he took his greed and fucked a younger person out of what he already has guarenteed to him. People wonder why shit is all fucked up, well you people are part of the problem. If you have 30 or more years and have a full retirement guarenteed then leave with what you earned and let a younger person have a chance instead of being greedy fuckers stay and drain it for a few more years for yourselves and wjile in the meantine 1000sof the younger years are kicked to the curb with nothin and lose Everything. Plain fucking gred and disrespectful

If all that is true on what you said. Do you have anything in writing that you can post on here for us all to see? Or is it something you heard?

Oh yea? Was you part of your local election committee?? Did your local mark out names of the people as they voted? With that said! Was the voting box watched at all times? Was you there when the results was tallied up? Who tallied the results in your local? High ranking reps? Was you there when the results was marked down for the legal count? Well I bet not!! The IUAW and all of our local reps wouldn't do such a thing, RIGHT!!! WHATEVER !! That's like saying our government and FORD never cheat us or lie to us either. I do agree that ALL of us should always show up and vote whether its a yes or no. It is a right and privaledge giving to us . We should exercise the privaledge while we still can,because you can count on that coming next,if it isn't already here in some small print that they just so happen to forget to tell us.

Yes, that was their salaries from 2006 so imagine what they are. Now 3 years later, not including their cola,bonuses,benefits and the other perks they have and still receive,while they continue to want us to take concessions after concessions. We need to stand together and fight and stop this insane bullshit. For all of you who are serious and want to stand and fight for what's right and wrong for all of us and our families, please. Read the forum on here. What went wrong. Read the blogs under Sam, give your opinions,ideas and thoughts,everyone helps or email at bussyharley@yahoo.com with thoughts and opinions. When is everyone going to sat enough is enough?? When we lose everything,including our jobs,homes,etc.?

Hell of a post Sam!!!! Will you or someone please send me imfo on the Administrative Caucus I wouldlove to help out and do my part to stop what our IUAW has become. Email me at bussyharley@yahoo.com. Thanks and lets all stand together and we can make changes. Stand as one and they will crumble

Yea maybe,but when one retires there's another one there to take their place so its still the same thingbb

For one thing u must be part of the IUAW to defend such BULLSHIT??? For another it isnt really about their wages,its about being good leaders, if your going to ask your membership to take concessions since everything is so terrible and then put the fear in the membership that we need to vote yes on it, they should show us a good example and start with themselves and take concessions. Did they? NO!!!! Then you ask if they take a pay cut would thathelp the membership? Well if I recall, Mr. Gettlefinger set up in front of Congress and told them, that if we worked for free it wouldnt do anything to help out the mess the automakers are in. But maybe he was talking about himself and the rest of the IUAW, then insisted that we needed to.Gettlefinger and the rest of the IUAW to the membership and the country that they are no better than the CEO and the executives of FORD. IUAW sold their membership out to save their own ass s. What about the 2 pensions they get? Perks,porks,bonusesthe y get and will still receive?? What about Black Lake even,that is too be used for their conventions but NO they choose to go to Vegas for that on our dime. As for your ignorant comment on being anti union because we are arguin ans stating our opinions and votied no because of the facts of it all. Thats not anti union dumbass, thats pro union,all union,thats standing up and fighting for whats right and wrong for all of us and our families,unlike you and our current IUAW. Our great founders of the UAW are probably rolling over in their graves in discust in what our IUAW have become. Im sorry but isnt the responsibility of the IUAW too go to Walmart and other companies to unionize nthne nworkers? hnell they cant neven do rightr to the people they have now. So we re not anti union,we re fed up with the current IUAW that has destroyed a once GREAT union. Then you have the nerve to call people like us are dumbasses,well obviously your the dumbass here,in case you dont know,the workers in the transplants have the same wages and benefits as we do,hell in some cases they have more now. They have a jobs bank,they get full pay when they have down weeks,oh theres more and they get all that without a union and paying fucking union dues to people that dont do shit for you and that dont know howto stand up and fight forwhats right. Thats right stand up and fight instead of putting the fear monger bullshit in the membership. Any UAW member has worked just as hard as the other and deserves the same as the other,thats including the IUAW and the local representatives. NO CONCESSIONS FOR THEM!! NONE FOR THE REST OF US EITHER!!! Not that hard to understand. Well maybe for you?

You got that right!!! How many do we need??? Now that's good representatives and union that can sit up there and make those kind of salaries and don't take a cut in absolutely nothin then expect us too take consessions and we re the ones that pay for their salaries and perks. What a fucking joke!!!! I bet they don't even cancel their Vegas trips we pay for or sell that bullshit lake house that no one evere uses. We need to find away to get rid of every single one of them

Excuse me there sir. No reason to call anyone low class on here for just stating their opinion on here. That's what this forum is for. I didn't say or try to say one bad thing about anyone on here. You made some good points. You must be a union rep in the IUAW. Just trying to defend what you all have agreed on. Not saying anything bad to you either and by the way, I was not yelling cause I was using caps,I just felt like it and no it doesn't make me look low class. I'm sorry I'M not up in your class there union brother. Well I wish us all luck and hope we survive what our Union has done to us MY VOTE IS STILL NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DO YOU NOT THINK FORD ISNT QUIETLY TAKING CARE OF THE SUPPLIER PROBLEM IF THAT DID HAPPEN?? CMON ALREADY!!! IT WOULD BE STUPID IF THEY WASNT,BECAUSE IF GM AND CHRYSLER WENT BANKRUPTSY IT WOULD MAKE FORD NO. 1. SO REST ASSURE FORD IS COVERING THEIR BASES ON THAT MATTER.

EXACTLY BROTHER!!!! I CANT UNDERSTAND FOR THE LIFE OF ME WHERE ANYONE GETS THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE WHAT GM OR CHRYSLOR AGREES ON??? JUST LIKE YOU SAID, WE HAVE A CONTRACT AND IF WE VOTE IT DOWN THIS TIME THEN THEY GO BACK TO THE TABLE,THEN IF THEY TRY TO MAKE IT WORSE WE JUST VOTE IT DOWN AGAIN AND STICK WITH THE CONTRACT WE ALREADY HAVE TILL ITS DURATION. MAN ITS NOT HARD TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE DONT HAVE TO ACCEPT IT AND WE CAN KEEP WHAT WE HAVE. i WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THE IUAW FIGURES THEY CAN AGREE TO TAKE AWAY THE JSP WITHOUT US VOTING ON THAT ALSO??? JSP IS PART OF THE CONTRACT THAT WE VOTED ON AND PASSED IN 2007. TO CHANGE ANY OF IT WOULD BE A CONCESSION AND MODIFICATION AND THAT WOULD MEAN WE WOULD HAVE TO VOTE ON IT, BUT OF COURSE OUR WORHTLESS LEADERSHIP FEELS THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT AND BEND THE RULES WHEN THEY WANT,WELL I HAVE NEWS FOR THEM. NO NO THEY CANT DO THAT!!!!!!!! I TOTALY AGREE WITH YOU ON A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT!!! WHAT IS BEING DONE TO US BY FORD AND OUR OWN UNION IS ILLEGAL AND THEY KNOW IT!!! I WOULD DEFINATELY PUT $60.00 OR MORE IN A FUND WITH ALL OF US DONATING TO IT TO DO THAT!!! IF WE ALL STUCK TOGETHER AND DID THIS,I BET EVERYTHING WOULD CHANGE THEN AND WE COULD GET SOME DAMN GOOD LAWYERS TO FIGHT FOR US WITH THAT KIND OF MONEY AND WIN!!!!! SOUNDS GOOD TO ME!!! SO WHEN DO WE START AND SEND MONEY. TIME TO STOP THIS INSANITY THAT OUR OWN IUAW IS DOING TO US AND OUR FAMILIES

This whole modification is a disgrace to all of us,our families and especially our founders that died fighting for this once Great union and now our current leaders have totaly disgraced them, us and our families with their illiterate leading. I mean who in their right ming would vote yes on this,especially when you go to vote and they just ask for id and dont even check names off and then there is noone watching the vote box??? That right there alone should get a no vote. Why is anyone at Ford even asked to take any concessions whatsoever?? Ford isnt asking for a bailout,Mullaly,Ford,Fields,all of the top executives arent giving up anything. Neither is our top leaders of our IUAW. Again that alone should get a NO vote. I dont know about anyone else,but when I myself signes a contract with anyone then that agreement sticks till end of the duration that was agreed on. Im not able to call my cell phone co and say hey economy is bad so we need to renegotiate our contract. NO it doesnt happen at all like that so WHY are we opening ours up for the second time since 2007?? WE and I mean WE as our Union and Ford already come to agreement in 2007 and thats,THAT!! the economy was terrible then also and that is agreement we all agreed on so Yes it should finish out its duration then go to table. Folks Ford, GM, Chrysler isnt and will not stick to their agreements now much less any WE modify,we all know this. Our current leaders of our IUAW has done nothing but slowly destroy everything the UNION is to stand for. They have taking us from a union into a business for themselves. There is no modification for themselves,just us. Our leaders get to keep everything as before just like the leaders for FORD. How the hell would any of union brother and sisters stand for that,again that is enough by itself for a NO vote. Thats just the tip of the iceburg that we are losing,some of us think we will be protected and keep our jobs,ha thats the total opposite of whats going to happen.WAKE UP!!!! FORD will not and isnt going to file for bankruptsy,NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!! SCARE TACTIC!!!! They know that. Also who the hell does our Government they think they are to tell us we need to take cuts and lower our wages,take concessions to meet a foreign company that is in OUR country and a foreign co. that gets their benefits paid by their own government. Who the fuck they think they are tot tell us we need to do this when they set up in Washington and have the best health care money can buy,still get their annual raises and they vote yes on their raises and all the other benefits and perks they get while THEY put our country in this mess and they havent agreed to take any concessions of their own,while we the people pay for everything they get and have but yet tell us we make TOO much money and our benefits and perks we have is insane,well I say FUCK THEM!!!! If they want us too take concessions they can show a great example and let it start with them,Then the BIG 3 and then us,unless they cant do then FUCK IT!! We cant either!!! After all our country is in bankruptsy now and has been for years and is gonna stay that way for years to come and FORD isnt so FUCK them no concessions for us. That alone should be a NO VOTE!!!! Like I said this is just a few things I wanted to mention that just them by themselves is definately a NO VOTE!!!! and there is alot more their asking from us and if this passes <YOU WATCH AND SEE HOW MUCH WORSE IT GETS FOR US AND HOW MANY JOBS WILL BE LOST!!!!!!!!! WE AS A UNION ARE AS ONE AND WE HAVE THE CHANCE TO STAND UP ANF FIGHT LIKE OUR FOUNDERS OF THIS UNION DID AND LIKE OUR RETIREES HAVE FOUGHT FOR WHAT WE HAVE. WELL I SAY FOR THEM ALL OF US,IT IS TIME TO SHOW OUR DUMBASS LEADERS OF THE IUAW,THE BIG 3 AND OUR GOVERNMENT,ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!!!! NO MORE!!!!!!! WE NEED TO DO THIS FOR US AND OUR FAMILIES. WHAT WOULD TELL OUR FAMILIES AND OUR CHILDREN WHEN WE DONT HAVE A JOB AND WE LOSE EVERYTHING???? SORRY WE DIDNT STAND UP AND FIGHT!!!!! WE WAS COWARDS??? WELL BROTHERS AND SISTERS NOT ME!!! PLEASE VOTE HOW YOU WANT BUT REMEMBER WHEN YOU SEE THAT YES WILL BE WORSE FOR US AND IT WILL DESTROY US DONT SAY THAT ALL OF US THAT VOTED NO DIDNT TELL YOU SO!!! GOOD LUCK EVERYONE AND GOD BLESS!!! WE ARE GOING TO NEED IT REMEMBER NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE LEAVE COMMENTS AND SPREAD THE GOOD WORD.......... NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

Yes that is correct and if you look on here under Ron Gettlefinger videos. Gettlefinger is interviewed on FOX and he himself mentioned the 10 percent labor costs as if its just our cost.That was his chance on tv to totaly explain all that and let people know all the facts,instead he does nothing like that. Ford didnt take any bailout money so we re not under a government agreement so we shouldnt takes cuts in anything and lose our job bank.Ford is reaping all the benefits that a bailout company is getting. Thats fucked up. So again FORD is in better shape than the other BIG 3 and FORD takes no bailout money but yet they still get to reap all the same benefits and wage cuts,ins cuts and our job bank gone as the others. They get it all and all thats going to happen with all that is Mullaly and the executives will reap huge bonuses,they will get the money that is taking from us

I wasnt spouted off. I asked the question and also said I could be wrong,no reason for you to reply with such attitude. Excuse me for being wrong on something. Thanks for the imformation,really aprreciate it. But still believe we need a new president.

Yep your right,it makes absolutely no sense. Everybody be careful on what FORD is doing. It looks like it s all to put people back to work till the job bank is gone then watch out,massive lay offs will probably begin. Their getting as many people out of job bank as they can and moving them to wherever so they can eventually say bye,bye!!!! then they owe them nothing but bullshit unemployment,which you cant live on.

I dont know what anyone is thinking about what Gettlefinger is doing to us,but from my opinion,I believe he needs to be impeached. I as an hourly employee never voted or had a chance to vote our president in. I understand that our local representaves had the choice to but I didnt and neither did any other hourly employee. Gettlefinger is not fighting for us our our rights and everything we and our retirees have fought and worked hard for. That is not what a union is about. He is agreeing to us taking a wage cut,cut in our insurance and taking away the job bank. The job bank is the only thing we have to keep our jobs secure. Yes the job bank was agreed upon just for that reason and now that it is being used because of what our dumbass politicians,ceo s and executives have done to this economy they want to take everything from us,while they dont take a cut in their wages,insurance,etc... they want to keep making their wages and keep their benefits while they take it from us. TIME TO SAY<ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!!! Our government wants and demands us to take cuts in wages,ins ,take away our job bank(which secures our jobs} while they reep their annual raises,best insurance money can buy(which is tax payers money) and they take how many at least one month recesses a year,which in mean time they get full pay while they are sitting on their ass getting full pay,which again is same as our job bank. At same time Gettlefinger gets his full pay and benefits and annual raises as they do but yet he wants to agree to take it from us.FUCK THAT!!!! None of the CEO s and executives arent agreeing to cuts from their part. So why should we????? I could be wrong,if I am please correct me but I believe Gettlefinger used to be a negotiator for FORD on our contracts years ago. If so then why is he a president of our union?? Since he has been president we have slowly lost what we have fought for and deserve. Gettlefinger and the politicions have taken what a union stands for and ruined it in the eyes of the public,which hate us now. WE CAN IMPEACH him so lets stand as one and rid his ass of his duty and stand up and fight for our jobs and family. WE need to this now if we want to keep our jobs,because if they get rid of the job bank,you can assure that the big 3 will permantly lay off and we will lose our jobs and they will start hiring at foreign wages. Why isnt Gettlefinger fighting back and doing tv ads to show the public what is reallt going on?? Maybe because he is gaining out of it while we and our families are losing everything. NO MORE!!!!!!!! LETS stand up and fight as ONE!!!!!! If we do this we can and will win!!!! Please give your thoughts and opinions and if anyone has the imfo to impeach his ass,let everyone know on here and lets fight for our lives and families together........