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In the company I work for, I am the only one who owns a Ford car (a fusion, perfect quality and made by non-union Mexico workers). Yesterday, one of my colleagues said that he will buy a Explorer if Ford would replace those Union people with whatever people. I guess the "fix or repair daily" was the best reputation of UAW's quality. Ford's qualilty has been improved a lot, but that refers to Fusion and Fiesta. It has nothing to do with you-- UAW workers. You still make junk. Ford just recalled million of F-150. Shame. Toyota and Hyundai hired many scabs. Those scabs are proudly producing the best quality car and truck in this planet. If you still believe that you are a Human being created by God. Then relate your value with the quality of your product, not your greedy. Alan Mulaly deserve billions dollar, because there is only Alan Mulaly in this planet. You do not deserve your greedy because there are 6 billion people who can perfectly replace you.
First of all, just in case you didn't notice, when you clicked that first button after entering the forum pages, it said you are suppposed to be a Ford employee for this forum. Obviously you are an idiot or you are so arrogant that you feel it doesn't apply to you. Read all you want but keep your comments to yourself. But I would go with the first thing and call you an idiot because your post sounds like you are either not of this country, drunk, stupid or some combination of the three.
Your Fusion was made by Mexicans and if I had to guess, that is probably where you are at right now so why don't you go to "Planet Alan Mulally"and screw yourself.
I don't deserve my greedy.......WTF, you are definitely an idiot. Either read your posts before you post them or get Rosetta Stone moron.
You keep running Forest.
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Regardless of your point, you and your hating buddies on here will ALWAYS vote "NO" no matter how rich the contract is. I could careless if someone calls me an idiot, or unintelligent. I'm a grunt, what else should I expect? 26 million? lmfao I too want all my shit back! I want people without jobs to come work for Ford more importantly!!!! By the way, If your so intelligent, you had the same opportunity that Settles had. Work your way up the ranks, and be somebody.
Hey norty! Didn't I reply to you a couple of days ago and called you a "factory grunt" and asked you "what expectation of class could you possibly have" after you told me I had no class? You didn't like it then and called me a "inbred Fucktucky idiot". I see you really secretly liked my reply because it reminded you of who you really are. Hell, you are using my words too, almost verbatim. LMFAO!!
You are wrong about this too and you know it. No one will ever make it to be IUAW unless they are part of the "good ole boy network", unless our leadership is elected by the membership...period.
As far as anyone not buying a Ford because the people who work for them go on strike over pay and benefits. Well, what can I say. Anyone who bases their decision of buying a vehicle on what the workers say about their pay and benefits is fucking ignorant...no they are fucking stupid. Ignorance is defined as not being aware of something, hence the saying "ignorance of the law is no defense at all", but surely they would be aware of how stupid that is.
Hey Norty. I found your movie. The link is below. Tell us which one you played. I knew you were really mexican.
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yOU KNOW whats worse than a ball sack? A right wing ball sack! Thats what you are anti. VOte Hell yes....
I'm a right wing ball sack too. Have a go at me bitch. You left wing fag-loving, anti gun, politically correct fucks make me sick. Being right wing doesn't have to mean you hate unions dumb fuck. It means you support the principles that made this country great. Not the anti god, anti country, anti family pukes on the left. Have a look at those around you. You would be suprised at how many of your friends are right wing.
I'm proud to be part of a union but our leadership is corrupt. They are in bed with the company. If you don't believe it, look at the past 4 years and probably the next 4. Evidence enough? I would love to have my raises back, my COLA, my 6 min, my 10% of my profit sharing but all you assholes that vote for this contract WILL BE RESPONSIBLE for giving them up for your lifetime if you haven't already. Just as someone else stated in this thread, we have earned the right to a raise and restoration of our concessions. The guilt put on us for demanding them is bullshit. You sound like a company plant when you talk this shit up and talk us down.
Give me my god
Give me my family
Give me my country
Give me my guns
Give me a raise
Give me less taxes
and get the fuck out of my life
Everything Obama and the "left wing" hates.
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Just for the record, if you read the wording real carefully you can smell the fuckjuice. It is not called a signing bonus, it is called a "settlement" bonus which most likely means it is a signing bonus and your equity of sacrifice grievance "settlement". Thank you once again Mrs. King. The membership will wake up one day and we will force a vote on your job one day. Enjoy your dirty under the table money while it lasts because its coming.
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The retooling there mainly talking about has to be done for new models anyways. They have had tons of problems with the Fusion in Mexico and have been wanting to bring it here for awhile. Ford workers are getting jacked on this contract. Think about it not one time did the union and company break off talks. Not one time during this. Not one time was there any tension which again tells me the leverage we have we didn’t use. Again that’s why all INT members should be elected. Which makes me believe that the union went in and low-balled us or didn’t fight hard enough for more. All the UAW INT. cares about are adding members to pay dues that’s why they are happy with this. So they can add more uneducated garbage up there that’s not qualified to do the job clocking in and serving no purpose, but hey as long as its there friends and family and the members have no say WHO CARES RIGHT? WAKE UP! We should have got all of this plus more. $6000 signing ? GM got $5000. Don’t forget about the grievance that is not being talked about. Why? They want us to accept this crappy contract first. Don’t be surprised if we are not getting anything out of that grievance and they don’t want to tell us. Come on! They know. There is nothing in the contract that says ACH or TEMPS will become tier 2. This tier 2 is causing all this BS. Its got to go! So they will continue to screw them over instead of making them tier 2. Of course we want our skilled trades back to there job. Its about all for one and one for all. Look at the big picture. There are some good things, but we need to take care of everyone. How many of you have been lied to continuously and shafted? Now your going to sit here and tell me why I need to vote yes. These idiots don’t care about us they care about themselves and how they can hook there friends and family up while maintaining there gravy job. Look how Keatts pulled his son up to region with like 4 yrs seniority. We couldn’t find anyone more qualified? We could of, but no one else had a chance. I could of found someone more qualified under the Detroit bridge. STAND STRONG AND VOTE NO.COME ON BLIND SHEEP OPEN YOUR EYES!
They don’t want to hear us. They don’t want to call us back. The way we speak is by hitting them where it hurts… VCAP! They are causing the destruction of a great organization! The ones that are on here defending this are more than likely related to the trash up top or are the trash up top.
I hope you have enjoyed reading this and your comments mean nothing to me. I will not be reading them. This is the truth.. I get the last word.
That is what I have been telling people for years at KTP. You need to elect people on a local level at all plants that have enough balls to go to the convention and put up for a vote to change our bylaws and allow an election on our so called IUAW leadership. Once again, I call to all hourly union auto workers, make them listen to you. Don't hope they will each and every time this shit comes around. Force them to negotiate and stand up for what the majority of us want. Better yet, we ought to do this and figure out a way to have people like Gettlefinger, King, etc. investigated. Have their financial dealing investigated. See if they really are doing what most of us think they are doing. You guys are criminals. I will throw a party the day either one of these happens. The teamsters vote for their leader. WTF. Why don't we? Because "they" won't allow it and they scare all your reps that attend the convention into never attempting to bring it up and if they do, they are blackballed and word gets back to their plant and they are badmouthed and whatdoyaknow...BAM, they don't get reelected. I have never run for election at my plant because I have never wanted to be part of the fucking good ole boy network, but I am thinking about it. You fuckers days are coming and we don't wanna see tears from ya when it does, we only wanna see footsteps. Your footsteps walking out the fucking door! You have let Ford take from us too long now and now you are doing it too (10% on profit sharing). Its coming, you better find a better hiding place for that dirty money. Revolution does not have to come in the form of violence. It can come in the form of an awakening and the desire for change from a far more intelligent group of people than you give credit to.
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That's some good shit! No latino.... Lots of Irish though, and living here in Michigan. Your rants are ignorant. You sound pretty much 'postal' to me, and am thankful I don't have to work next to a tool like you! Good luck with all that hate as well.
Hate? You called me inbred you nosey fuck. Was it really any of your fucking business about me ranting? If you can't handle someone addressing you directly, then shut the fuck up and stay the fuck out. As far as you being Irish, well that is still on the table. Don't be crying when the Union takes 10%of your profit sharing next year if this passes. Have you even asked if that is on top of the 1 or so % they already take. Ok with that but 10% is too much. Are you ok with making the same money you made in 1999? Im not. Do you enjoy your shorter breaks? I don't. Do you enjoy having a dog lick peanut butter off your sack? I do.......just kidding. Have you ever thought that people like myself get on here and rant because the sorry pukes that negotiate for us don't fucking listen to what we want? Or that people like me get sick of hearing "they can do that" when management tramples on our contract language in the plant and there isn't a fucking thing you can do except file a grievance that will never be paid because you either lose the argument or it is traded to get the alcoholic or drugaddict that can't come to work his/her job back. So yeah I rant but you would want to know me if you needed someone to have your back but that is neither here nor there.
Basically it boils down to this, it is not a good contract. It has some good things in it, but that doesn't make it good. Everyone one I know told the union we want our raises back, we want our COLA, we want 6 min, etc. No one said "could ya get us some investment, could ya get the 2nd tier guys some more money?" I'm not knocking anyone getting anything, I am saying that all of us who have been here giving back and giving back want some back. I've been at Ford for 18 years and I have been giving back for almost half of that and the union leadership has no problem with that as long as they gain membership and union dues. Wouldn't you have liked a $3.78/hr raise? Oh and last but not least.....go fuck yourself. lol
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Fuck you, inbred fucktucky idiot! How about that imbicile? Also, no one gives a shit if your pissed off! Quit asswipe if you don't like it! 50k should be like a million bucks in fucktucky!
El norte? Do you work at the Fusion plant? hows the weather down there in Mexico you greasy fuck. So because I am from Kentucky I should be a grateful little hick and be glad I have a job, huh? You can go fuck yourself with your mama's tamale. And for the record, there are not 3 i's in "imbecile" tacotucky. You go and vote yes if you wish, wait a minute, don't you have to be a US citizen to vote?
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Such class!
Fuck class and fuck you. You are a factory grunt. What expectation of class can you possibly have? I'm pissed you moron!
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im a YES. and im grateful everyday for my job at Fords, im earning a wage much higher than the average worker, I've got great health insurace that has saved my wifes life twice now, once from lung cancer and then from brain anyursims, I thank Ford and the UAW for my towncar and my F-150, For my beautiful home, my boat my Polaris rv and for my pension plan and my 401. I think you guys ougth to count your blessing and be happy with all you have, look around you at what the rest of the countrys going through, over 9% unemployment, I can't believe the hatred im hearing for a company and union who have made it possible for each of you to have what you do have, im sure glad I don't know any of you cause I would surely feel ashamed to call any of you, friends.
Don't worry I wouldn't like you anyway company/union drone. I don't fraternize with feminine men. As for your benefits, the international "leadership" enjoys better benefits. Better pension that just so happens to not be reduced by the amount of social security they receive and provided that my info that i have been given, their health insurance is much more robust than yours with less out of pocket expenses. I can remember back about 8 years ago my local leadership, the chairman and 2 of the 3 members of the bargaining committee were all fortunate enough to be "buying" new super duty trucks decked to the nuts at the same time, which just by coincidence happened to be directly after the contracts were ratified by a 51% to 49% margin. But that is OK cause my buddy took a piss in the back floorboard of each one as an extra gift for their efforts. Don't be a drone.
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I say FUCK YOU to the IUAW!!!! You can suck my dick!!! You rotten fucks have been guiding managements dicks up our asses for years and telling us how you are helping us and our future. You sorry motherfuckers are only interested in keeping the rolls up and raking in good ole union dues, hence the huge emphasis in this piece of tp that you are calling a contract proposal, on more jobs and higher wages for 2nd tier employees. They get almost a $4 an hour raise and we haven't had one in 8 years and now you want us to make it 12? FUCK YOU!! No COLA per hour? FUCK YOU!! No 6 min per hour breaks? FUCK YOU!! Taking 10% of our profit sharing? FUCK, FUCK AND TRIPLE FUCK YOU!!
Listen people out in the plants. You need to pressure and I do mean pressure your sorry ass scared pussy reps that go to the fagfest constitutional convention or whatever they call it and vote to allow us to vote on our international leadership. Hey you fucks up there. We are sick of you and I am going to lead a charge and I'm coming for your jobs. You are finished fucking us and padding your own pockets. I think all of your financial dealings needs to be investigated and I'm sure they would find that you have taken money under the table to throw us under the bus. The answer is NO from me here at KTP. Make it right our take us out fuckers. I demand it.
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WOW! What a conversation. My question is "Do you believe in anything?". You have to believe that something/ someone whatever started all of this. The big bang? I don't think so. What created the pieces that came together to make the big bang even if there were a big bang? There has to be some sort of creator. Even if it isn't the creator that our little minds think to be, something had to start it all. There just wasn't always a universe and everything in it wasn't just always there. If you look on Earth, everything is created by a process of events and materials. It is not by coincidence that s@#! keeps coming together and making cells in all the living things that walk, crawl, jump and run. It is not a coincidence that the air that allows us to breath stays where we need it. They are sets of laws and rules created by something. It is not just a big friggin accident. I've been asked how i can explain anomalies like mutation. Its got to be a rule. It is a rule to allow for the evolution of all living things in order for us as a species to grow and evolve into what we are meant to be......
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dont count on it. Read the latest...Ford says our profit share should have been more like $3,000. But they have big hearts. So next yr bigger profits could mean a lower payout then even this yrs.
Where did you read that?
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Your statement just shows how little you know about how salaried personnel get paid !
Salary, bonus and profit sharing are 3 separate items and very few "white collar" employees get "bonus" (only LL4 and above) once you get to Director/VP level, your bonus is "negotiated", meaning not every VP get the same as every other VP. Bonuses are also only paid if certain performance levels are meet (negotiated at the beginning of the year). Depending on the persons salary level these may be personal goals and/or group goals. Also, for VPs and above, some of their bonus may be in stock or stock options which can not be sold for several years.
Most (if not all) the the "white collar" that you see/interface with are much lower (probably SG7-LL6). I am retired, but I know there was a lot of talk about converting their "profit sharing" into more of a bonus which could only be collected if certain objectives were meet. So the company might make profit and group might not get anything if its objectives were not met, and vice versa.
Personally, I think ALL top level executives in ALL US companies are overpaid (especially when compared to their overseas counterparts) as are professional athletes and movie/television actors.
I am glad that I can be enlightened by such and old far....umm I mean old wizard like you. I was talking about their bonus compensation that they WILL be receiving for last year. It will be huge. As for anyone else who thinks that they deserve it, you are an unstable mind. There is no justification for ridiculous, inflated salaries and bonuses for the guys who cost more to employ (minus pay) than any hourly worker will be paid in compensation. i.e. company cars, company jets, fringe benefits, etc. I can only imagine how much it actually costs the company for Alan and Mark to work for it. Then you add the pay and bonuses and stock options. Especially when they add very little value if any to the products that we produce. Anybody can say yes or no. Why don't we try to put a monkey up there, pay him in bananas and see how much money we can save.
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Your statement just shows how little you know about how salaried personnel get paid !
Salary, bonus and profit sharing are 3 separate items and very few "white collar" employees get "bonus" (only LL4 and above) once you get to Director/VP level, your bonus is "negotiated", meaning not every VP get the same as every other VP. Bonuses are also only paid if certain performance levels are meet (negotiated at the beginning of the year). Depending on the persons salary level these may be personal goals and/or group goals. Also, for VPs and above, some of their bonus may be in stock or stock options which can not be sold for several years.
Most (if not all) the the "white collar" that you see/interface with are much lower (probably SG7-LL6). I am retired, but I know there was a lot of talk about converting their "profit sharing" into more of a bonus which could only be collected if certain objectives were meet. So the company might make profit and group might not get anything if its objectives were not met, and vice versa.
Personally, I think ALL top level executives in ALL US companies are overpaid (especially when compared to their overseas counterparts) as are professional athletes and movie/television actors.
Which is exactly what I was saying.........OVERPAID!
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Enjoy your hard earned bonus.....we up here in the north, under the guise of the CAW get $0.00
Sorry to hear about that tbill.
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I am curious about something though........hmmmm........... I wonder how much Alan Mulally and Mark Fields profit sharing bonuses will be......hmmmm
They will probably be able to pay about 8000 to 10000 of the hourly profit sharing checks with just their 2 checks. Thanks Al, thanks Marko. Y'all great guys!
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Did anyone else notice this?
http://www.detroitne...-to-average-$5K
20k salaried to 40k hourly? Is it me or is that 2:1 ratio seriously too high.
Our profit sharing would have been much higher if Ford hadn't taken a $2.5 Billion hit in the fourth quarter, and especially if they would get rid of some of the dead weight salaried folks.
I hear ya there. I was really expecting a much bigger check, actually was hoping to be around $8000-$10000, but as i am sure someone will comment, i am just glad to be getting something.
As far as the 2:1 ratio, that is definitely to high. I am sure i could come up with some job cuts on the salary side if they wanted to shed some of that dead weight.
They could start by eliminating all MPS positions. Make the superintendants and area managers do some of the leg work instead of sitting in meetings all day.
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Member beat in Chicago?
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Sounds to me that some Union thugs have an ass-whooping coming. If in fact these stories are true. I thought the Union analwarts at my plant were bad. Proof that everything that comes out of Chicago smells like an armpit.