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Actually, no. That's FORDS recommendations and we all also know that the Govt does not do the testing its actually the car manufacturers who do the testing and submit the results to the govt. They spot check them when requested. Ask Hyundai how that worked for them when they got caught cheating.

That's one trip. It's easy to do on Battery..... But now run that same mileage on all highway speeds 65-75 not using any battery.. Becha you wont see anything near that! I'll put 1000 on it. Going any slower on the expressway is impractical. Here in Chicago that will get you into a wreck on the Dan Ryan, quicker than you know it. Also EPA testing should reflect those conditions. Hard to do an apples to apples test when the testing is flawed and its easy to cheat.

I did not fail to do those things. Kind of hard to test drive a car that isn't on the market.... Also, EPA testing is not realistic, everyone knows that. Fords problem is that thier Hybrid design is specifically optimized to the EPA test as opposed to real world driving. The main reason for the difference is the 62mph top speed under battery power for the Fords. almost all the driving on the EPA test is below 60mph, which allows for maximum usage of the battery. Toyota's hybrids usually get close to the EPA ratings. One of the reasons is that the top battery speed is around 40mph (depends on model). This means that the cars have to switch to gas power more often during the EPA test. The C-MAX/Fusion are optimized for the EPA test. The Camry/Prius/Prius v seem to be optimized for real-world driving while staying within the confines of the EPA test. The biggest difference is that the Toyota hybrids have a lower electric top speed which means that their highway numbers are going to be more realistic as the gasoline engine is running. To me it seems Ford is cheating allot. While it technically may not be wrong, but if you could cheat on an ACT by programming the car to ace the ACT, versus real world then that is wrong as the ACT or in this case, EPA testing, your setting your self up for failure and your customers as what you see on the testing is going not going to match real world results thus creating a flawed system as the comparison is flawed. There needs to be a test of real world speeds, as its obvious that ford does not stand up to the competition at real world speeds.

Sure I will sell it to you at double the cost. Want to buy?

Manual says 1000. You would think that the EPA testing would account for different situations. What good is a test if it doesn't reflect real world conditions?

What does it matter.... Oh it doesn't and doesn't contribute a dam to this thread!

Actually you do.. Because the car will coast in EV mode using no gas, and charge the battery at the same time. If your coasting down hill you want the gas engine to be off. No need to waist the gas to go down hill. You want the car coasting.

Ford says the MPG should be 47 City/47 Highway / 47 Combined. It shouldn't matter if my commute is Hybrid Friendly or not. I should be seeing 47 mpg period no matter what the driving conditions are. Yea I could see if I was getting 43 @ 70 mph, but I'm no where near that! Also, I took a peak at the life time statistics, and according to my computer my real MPG for the car is 33 mpg. Also, It appears there is a class action lawsuit on this very topic. http://www.dailytech.com/Ford+Hit+with+ClassAction+Lawsuit+Over+CMAX+Fusion+Hybrid+Fuel+Economy+Claims/article29495.htm

1. 95 percent Highway 5 percent city. 2. 65-75 Mph 3. 40's to 60's. It is Chicago. 4. Typical BS is 95-100. I try to achieve a 100 when possible.

I'm at 1230 as of this morning. I drive atleast 130 miles a day. 65 miles (one way) to work.

So I'm now past the "break in point" for the car and have started tracking fuel efficiency. I am getting NO WHERE near the 47 that ford is touting. I'm seeing more like 37 real world, ish. One thing that is surprising is while I am driving highway speeds, while maintaining speed, the car says it is accelerating and the MPG is often near 20. It doesn't go up to 40 until I am coasting. Any acceleration brings it down to 20 unless I am in EV mode then obviously it's 60 plus because I'm on battery. I dont have to be driving highway speed, any acceleration not on ev mode is at 20 or below. I am not impressed. I would like to see acceleration happen more quickly with EV mode. Accelerating in ev mode is not practical and often you have to kick some gas on when starting from a red light. I also would like to see EV mode be engaged over 63+ miles. They should have programmed it to stay on till you reach 80. Most highway speeds are between 65-75. I think gas mileage would be better if the car was able to maintain at least 75 with the battery. It could deplete the battery and recharge when needed especially on long road trips. Over all the car is great. I wish the mood lighting was brighter. Love the car, just wish ford could get the fuel mileage straight.

Of this.... So far so good. Gas mileage seems to be about half of what it is suppose to be. The dealership never called me to say it was in. I called ford's 1800 number to find out that the car was delivered. Went in this morning and said a little birdy told me.... and then they confirmed that it was in. We did up all of the paperwork and signed the contract and and that was that. Drove the car off the lot and went to work! One thing that I noticed right away was that the HD radio is sensitive and not as good as the integrated HD radio addon that I had in my 08 fusion and the steering wheel is smaller than my 08.

Just took delivery about an hour ago.

I really don't care! Who's the one crying now. If you have to wait as long as 6 months blame ford for that and complain to them. Make them change their policy's. If your jealous that I'm getting my car before you and I ordered after you, you should talk to your dealer about it and deal with it! In the meantime, I will continue to shop my options!

There is no need for it to be sitting there when it can sit in my garage! Haha! :-)