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Don't need to drive one I only buy Super Duty's, weird that no ecoboost is offered in the model line that is expected to see the most severe use.... 6.2 gives me no reason to try inferior drivetrains.[/quote
Damn that post brings a smile to my face....the f150 is not a truck...its a suburban mulch hauler that all the city folk can thus pretend to be real cowboys and one of the "cool kids"
Yup, dealer told me he has lost a few sales on the new 150's once people realize the motor shuts off at lights and you have to press a button each time you get in.
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Yup, usually because either the station doesn't have gas (from people getting it before the storm), or.....get this.....they don't have electricity to run the pumps.
Yes, the long lines before the storm are because everyone is trying to fill up at once, so that they have enough gas for after when stations are closed. This causes stations to run out of gas, which makes lines worse at the stations that do have gas. I remember seeing lines 50 cars long before Irma. I was able to find a station with only about 10 cars in line, and still had to wait a good 45 minutes to get gas.
It doesn't take a hurricane to lose power, for instance 2 days before Halloween this year I lost power for 2.5 days. Work 50 miles to North never lost power and expected me there. Range of my F350 is about 400 miles, filled up before storm (had no issue waiting in any long lines or such). If I had an electric car I would have had to find alternate means to charge car.
There are plenty of winter storms where towns/areas lose power for days but the roads are safe to drive and just to get food you may have to go few towns over where they have power. Not every outage is a huge natural disaster that means you can't/ are not expected to go to work or safely travel about.
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During the winter, electricity demand is higher at night than day due to lighting and heating load is higher when the sun is not up. Summer is opposite due to ac demand.
The other problem is that while natural gas is the #1 source of heating fuel, it's also currently the fuel of choice for throwing up new electricity generation plants because it's cleaner than coal, cheap at the moment due to fracking, and goes up quick and easy (compared to nuclear or a dam, for example). However it's really a problem during these cold snaps because natural gas gets in short supply due to heating demand, not leaving much for generation. It's actually an infrastructure issue, as the existing pipe lines were never meant to supply generation (gas wasn't widely used for generation until about 10 years ago because gas was magnitudes more expensive than coal until fracking happened).
Both the electric grid and natural gas distribution piping network are going to need extensive, substantial, systemic upgrades before we could displace a significant amount of oil as a transportation fuel. Given the lack of state budgets, opposition to taxes, hatred of utility companies, and widespread "not in my backyard" mentality, I just don't see any such upgrades happening anytime soon. Especially since oil is going to be cheap for the foreseeable future.
Recently during the North East cold spell due to most of the gas being take up for heating people's houses the plants up here in Mass/CT had to switch to burning oil/coal for power generation. Nevermind what happens if you lose power for a few days during/after a good storm and you are stuck with no car if electric unless you happen to have a generator.
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ecotrash Lol. You sound like a chevy fanboy
Nope not even close, actually just bought a new F350 two months ago so try again.
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Citation?
I live in NJ and never got anything from JCPL about my electric usage. The vast majority of people that normally experience cold weather use fuels as a primary or secondary source (Natural Gas, Propane, Oil, Pellet) to keep their houses warm.
Just a quick google search is showing areas that normally don't get serve cold weather (Texas) talking about additional electrical usage.
The cold snap we had in my area was the third longest in recorded weather keeping (14 days straight)...this happens every 10-20 years.
While many/most (depending one area) people use either wood, oil, or propane to heat their homes there is widespread electric heat still which is high enough in numbers to put a strain on our electric grid in the north east during prolonged cold spells.
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Don't need to drive one I only buy Super Duty's, weird that no ecoboost is offered in the model line that is expected to see the most severe use.... 6.2 gives me no reason to try inferior drivetrains.Ooh so edgy....
I just laugh at people who complain about Ecoboost engines without even driving them on a daily basis.
There is a reason why the 5L V8 in the F-150 only makes up 25% of total sales..
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Do keep in mind that "realistic" Electric cars have only become "affordable" in the past 5 years.
Prices will keep dropping as time goes on and more people will be able to afford them.
The first company to sell an Electric auto that is on the low end of 30K without tax incentives and goes 250 miles will be a winner- if that said company can make $$$ on it.
I'm starting to think the Performance CUV EV Ford is working on is being marketed that way so they can charge more for it.
Except for the fact that during recent east coast cold snap folks were told to cut down on electricity usage? What would adding a bunch of electrics do to it. We do not have the infrastructure to support it.
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Based on what I have seen so far from the Ranger my expectations for the Bronco have been lowered considerably.
My expectations for the Bronco are very low, I expect a four door powered by an ecotrash four banger that looks like it could wear a Suzuki or Isuzu badge. Currently in the market for a 94-96 Bronco as I gave up waiting and based on recent Ford products with the the exception of F Series I don't see much hope.
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So who is actually buying these vehicles again? Nothing more than a niche market. Our electric grid cannot handle widespread electrics. Where does the the power plant gets it energy from anyway? What a joke this whole electric car is, we have been hearing the same thing for over 20 years about how electrics will take over...
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Pretty safe bet its the supercharged 5.2L that's been all over the 'net. Should also be available with the 10-speed auto.
Auto? Does Ford still have the unwritten rule of no auto Cobra's/Shelby's?
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Oncor Electric Delivery here in Texas reported that it is continually keeping aware of circuit penetration levels from EVSE, especially residential. No major issues with overloading now. They recommend that EV owners charging their vehicles at home do so during off peak hours. https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/df5b3b_177c4f0da9ea4d0288c487c8d50f7c4c.pdf
Preparing for the future isn't a waste of money. Ford doesn't want to be caught flat footed as electrified vehicles become the norm.
That's great and all along the East Coast during recent cold spell people were told to limit energy usage.
History shows us electric vehicles will never become the norm, ICE is here to stay for a long time. Not like some power plants aren't powered by sources worse than what gasoline motor puts out. Here in New England they recently had to relax environmental regulations to allow plants to run more coal due to very high demand. Our grid just simply cannot handle widespread electric vehicles.
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Pretty cool that the original survived, especially when you look at what happened to the General Lee's from Duke's of Hazzard.
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Looks pretty good, definitely conservative styling but it will sell well. Good variety of trim offering also, wish the Super Duty would get a Lariat sport trim.
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You ever hear of China?
I think I have heard it a few times in my life? I prefer just to looks at actual occurrences/facts which point to a grid that cannot support widespread electrics and thus far American buying preferences. Giant waste of money by Ford.
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Might as well just call it the Explorer Mach 1 Probe.
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Yawn. There's no indication these won't rot on the lot like the bolt and leaf do. I really have to question Ford Management's decisions here since this level of investment will deny the ICE programs much needed capital.
For sure, this will end up as another electric failure. Between this and the self driving fad I am not sure which is worse.
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I have heard this electric spiele a few times in the last thirty years... never goes anywhere. I thought I read something about the North east power grid maxed out during recent cold spell? Or maybe recent requests to lower electricity use in North Carolina due to cold?
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i don't mind that it will be a BEV (electric motors have nearly instantaneous low speed torque, I wouldn't be surprised if this vehicle had a 0-60 time of about four seconds), but I'll always associate the name Mach 1 with a Mustang.
Meh all the historical Mustang name plates should always stay V8. Base model electric is fine but never a Boss, Mach, or Cobra electric or turbo V6.
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Give it a year or 2 and we will have a new CEO with new ideas and the electrified SUV of the future will be named Fusion.
Yup and 10 years from now we will have a Mach 1 special edition Mustang to restore the nameplate powered by a V8.
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Its also an easy way for them to say look were moving forward, were using a storied name on an electric!
I don't see many people buying that, with the Bullitt back today I would have figured the Mach 1 edition was due in a few more years? This name choice is not going to go over well. Name it eco trash whatever but to dig up a historic Mustang nameplate is just wrong.
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I don't mind the use of Mach 1 on an electric. With powertrains moving away from ICE, there won't be anything left to put Mach 1 on otherwise.
It's not like the ICE is disappearing, plenty of other names to use. This is the kind of decision we will look back at in 20 years as an equivalent to Shelby Dodge Omni/Charger.
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It looks alright but it doesn't look like a RAM anymore which I am not sure is good for them.
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New one looks good, always my favorite special edition Mustang.
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Terrible name choice, Mach 1 should not be used for anything electric never mind an SUV. Shame on Ford.
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16 Battery Electrics coming by 2022
in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
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So just buy a spare F series when you get a foot or two of snow and power goes out? Doesn't make much economic sense. Maybe if you live in a urban area I could see owning a electric but for rural suburbia I don't think they will ever work or for that fact anyone that commutes a decent distance.