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20 hours ago, corpcog said:
Okay, does anybody know how to get the the fuses? The owner's manual indicates where I should find them, but no help on how to get to them. The OBD port is the only thing exposed; and barely at that. Looks like the knee airbag is close by so I'm really reluctant to just start pulling on panels to see what I find!
https://fuse-box.info/lincoln/lincoln-aviator-u611-2020-fuses-and-relays/ampI would expect the fuses to be visible or behind an easy to pop off cover.
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What is CCD?
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52 minutes ago, Gurgeh said:
T Hawker, there are some good reasons to get the extended warranty if you plan to keep the vehicle a very long time. But standard Lincoln warranties (and even more so the Black Label versions) are long and extensive. They should cover just about anything you might encounter with the vehicle (during the time they are active) other than tires, wipers and break pads, reducing the worry about servicing your vehicle where you bought it.
The ‘unused’ portion of Ford ESP plans are refundable so even if you sell/trade before end is probably worth considering ... there are so many very expensive components any one of which can cost as much as the ESP (just make sure all the technology & electrical stuff is included in the plan you choose).
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3 hours ago, KansasHawk said:
Thanks for the help everyone.
So I joined Mustang club a few weeks back but i'm not 100% sure i'm eligible for X plan pricing until 60 days of membership. Can anyone give me what the X plan saved them? I thought it was 4% but wanted to confirm. The MSRP is 76,460 so wanting see an estimate of what to expect.
Another factor is I was going to trade in my Lexus but if I order through the dealer that would probably need handled somewhere else. Not sure if others have experienced trading in while factory ordering.
Any input is appreciated!
FYI : last year (2018) I ordered a 2018 Navigator Black Label on X plan pricing and traded in 2 cars on it. The dealers used car dept gave an appraisal at time of order to establish approximate difference price to me subject to reappraisal on delivery to determine actual difference I paid.
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From the 2020 Aviator Owners Manual 2nd printing:
”ABOUT INTELLIGENT ADAPTIVE CRUISE CONTROL
Intelligent adaptive cruise control combines speed sign recognition with adaptive cruise control to adjust the cruise set speed to the speed limit detected by the speed sign recognition system. For example, if the speed sign recognition system detects a 50 mph (80 km/h) speed limit, the cruise set speed is updated to 50 mph (80 km/h).”My assumption on brake light function is that they would act as if Cruise Control was not involved: if the system applies the brakes to slow down the brake lights would come on and if the system slows only by decreasing accelerator they would not.
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I think ‘tis pretty much same as Expy:
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On 9/28/2019 at 12:07 PM, flagman said:
I just received an email that this is finally from autostopeliminator.com for $99.99, I ordered my today, flagman
Are the installation instructions ( for ‘18 Navigator) available somewhere?
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Delay on engine restart may be more pronounced if Brake Hold is on ... then the engine restart won’t occur ‘till you touch the accelerator.
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My ‘18 Navigator Sync 3 entertainment system has a CD player ... do you think Lincoln May have upgraded it to DVD/Blue Ray and provided Sync 3 to connect it to the rear seat entertainment system?
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On 9/9/2019 at 6:52 AM, blwnsmoke said:
There will be a way to turn it off, I am 100% confident. It is just a matter of finding it. All it requires is changing a "1" to a "0" in a particular line of code.
Voiding warranty? Lol, never... it is no different than putting it in Excite mode.. or hitting the off button upon startup every time. It does not do anything else and there is no way anyone could or would avoid your warranty on something the vehicle already does.
No I am not affiliated with Forscan but have used it many times.
So, does flipping the bit turn off stop/start or just change the default on the console switch (allowing it to be enabled with the switch)? .... or may there be 2 bits: one to disable/enable the function and another to set the default?
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20 hours ago, Husker4theSpurs said:
Thanks for the response! I am feeling you on the Lincoln Play ... not sure how it is better than a tablet at all if one can make their phone a hotspot anyhow. I guess it might be easier to plug and play a DVD player into the screens or system if one wanted to do that.
Yeah, we have plenty of trucks here too so parking shouldn't be an issue. I think in general I just like the standard size more appearance-wise so I keep going back to that, but the L is definitely the smart choice for us.
I too have considered the Expedition and wondered that I wouldn't be losing much really -- Heads Up Display (which I love) and a nicer interior, but would be gaining a tactile button for heated steering wheel (going into the screen for that makes no sense to me). I guess a longer warranty and the dealer pick up for service is nice too, but obviously pushing it when you consider about a $13K difference.
I do plan on waiting for the 2020. I guess I thought the Navigator already had lane keep assist and radar cruise? I just thought they were packaging differently now for 2020? I also like the new options for white and silver exterior -- more attractive color options for those two.I have 2018 Black Label Burgandy Velvet and Destination Theme ... love it. It DOES have lane departure/lane keeping (2020 Aviator also has Lane Centering) and Adaptive Speed Control (20 Aviator appears to have enhancements to this for high traffic congestion situations). The park assist on the 20 Aviator is supposed to handle accelerator, brake and shifting as well as steering. I hope the 20 Aviator technology enhancements will be incorporated in 21 Navigators.
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My Navigator frequently looses my steering wheel vertical position memory. Service Advisor says known problem affecting positioning systems.
Last couple months on startup radio comes on Sirus channel 0 (no sound) rather than the station it was on at engine stop. Once it came on an AM station. Service advisor said they turned off the AutoUpdate function for the Sync3 software as it is a known issue and did several ‘hard’ resets. I asked if they confirmed software version and updated to latest level if it was not up to date; he said they did (but did not say if any updates needed to be applied).
My 360 camera view frequently is blurry where the front camera image is ‘stitched’ to the right camera image which is very disconcerting when manouvering into/out of garage or parking space. Seems especially pronounced when lighting at front is lower level than side (like when backing out of garage). Service advisor says their equipment not latest for the camera alignments/adjustments; attempting adjustment with their current equipment could make it worse; should wait until they have newer equipment. No estimate on when that will be.
Has anyone else experienced any of these issues ... if so, what have you been told or found out about them?
Does anyone have any additional information on these issues?
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Found on eBay (seller remotewholesale) for $79.94 with blank key and free shipping. This fob is actually for the 2018 Navigator as the hatchback control button actually depicts a hatchback rather than a trunk lid like the other fobs I’ve found on line for reasonable prices.
The programming instructions from the 2018 Navigator Owners Manual First Printing worked just fine.
From 2018 Navigator owner manual 1st printing, page86; seems to be removed from 2nd and 3rd printing)
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You must have two previously programmed intelligent access keys inside your vehicle and the new unprogrammed intelligent access key readily accessible. You can purchase replacement keys or remote controls from an authorized dealer.
Make sure that the ignition is switched off before beginning this procedure. Make sure that you close all the doors before beginning and that they remain closed throughout the procedure. Carry out all steps within 30 seconds of starting the sequence. Stop and wait for at least one minute before starting again if you carry out any steps out of sequence.
Read and understand the entire procedure before you begin.
1. Remove the key blade from the transmitter.
2. Open the center console storage compartment lid.
3. Insert the first programmed key in the backup slot.
4. Press the push button ignition switch.
5. Wait five seconds and then press the push button ignition switch again.
6. Remove the intelligent access key.
7. Within 10 seconds, place a second programmed intelligent access key in the backup slot and press the push button ignition switch.
8. Wait five seconds and then press the push button ignition switch again.
9. Remove the intelligent access key.
10. Wait five seconds, then place the unprogrammed intelligent access key in the backup slot and press the push button ignition switch.
11. Once complete, the information cluster displays a message confirming the key has been programmed. The direction indicators flash and the horn sounds.
Programming is now complete. Check that the remote control functions operate and your vehicle starts with the new intelligent access key.
If programming was unsuccessful, wait 10 seconds and repeat steps 1 through 7. If it still does not work, take your vehicle to an authorized dealer.
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This uTube video review mentions he checked that the headphones were ~$50.
I found the review very interesting considering all the negative comments I’ve been seeing.
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I see the Build & Price tool is now (01-24-2019) available ... seems to me to need a little work, but good start.
https://www.lincoln.com/luxury-suvs/aviator/2020/
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20 hours ago, JackSLack said:
Thank you for your response. I have been looking at everyones post. I can't find it out there either. Lesson learn buy a new car after it's first year out. Love.. love... my car.... but dishearting when you keep getting DRIVE MALFUNCTION CODES AND TRIPS TO THE DEALERSHIP
Codes keep changing from... it is not to the same strut.. from Sensor defective on back passenger side replace strut ...one front passenger strut bad Solenoid...dip stick not pushed in after oil change.
After reading forum... glad I bought 6 year warranty!! If you replace strut for sensors and Solenoids:( Sensors all over that car
These new hi-tech vehicles are actually rolling computer networks (several interconnected computer control modules). Have the alleged defective assembly’s been confirmed defective? If they were not actually defective you may actually have a defective control module or network connection issue throwing erroneous failure codes. I had 3 driver side headlight assemblies replaced due to headlight going out before they finally caught a headlight control module failure code and replaced the control module.
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I think the new 2020 Aviator is supposed to have speed limit sign recognition available.
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Our salesman at Westpoint Lincoln was very helpful. He helped us get a look at a Burgandy Velvet Destination Theme (the day it arrived before it was delivered to the person who ordered it) and actually mentioned X Plan possibility and helped checking that I could qualify. He is now a used car sales manager there.
It is not unusual for dealers to add things to their inventory cars with very high markups (like tinting, etching, etc.) but will give away or reduce to cost rather than loose a sale. Since we ordered our Navigator at delivery they asked about etching, wheel warranty (those are very pricy wheels), extended warranty, etc. We declined all except for the Ford ESP full coverage to 6yr 60k miles (all that tech gets real expensive to fix/replace). I shop Ford ESP on internet ... there 2 or 3 dealers that will sell them at significant discount ... and take those to my dealer who inevitably, one way or another, will match or beat.
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Since Ford-Lincoln dealerships can not sell Black Label and have all the Ford lines to sell I suspect they get fewer Lincoln unit allocations (especially hot selling models like the 2018, 2019 Navigators) than the Lincoln - only dealers. If this is correct, I would expect a Lincoln only dealership maybe more likely to honor an X plan purchase especially if you are willing to order and wait for it to be built. We wanted Black Label (the Destination theme sold us) so had to go to Lincoln only dealer (about twice as far as the Ford-Lincoln dealer we had dealt with before). The dealer had no problem doing our order on X plan.
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Working on my iPad Pro and my iPhone X. Is your app up to date?
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12 hours ago, Husker4theSpurs said:
Thanks again for all the input. I think we've decided on the Navigator in White Platinum in Black Label with the Chalet Theme. Gonna go back and forth on Lincoln Play ... we are into technology but I kind of wish they just included a DVD to make it a bit less of a guessing game on how well it will actually work.
We will wait to order (wanting a 2nd row bench) until seeing what Chevy/Cadillac has to offer for their redesign but leaning heavy toward the Lincoln either way.I would suggest a close look at the third row seating if you expect any adult use there. From my view the Navigator is unmatched in room (especially leg and foot room) in the third row.
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We really like the restyling of the 2018 Navigator; The technology all up to current best available ... question was if the premium price on Black Label worth it over Reserve with the options we wanted ... the we got to see a Black Label Burgandy Velvet with Destination Theme —— game over, ordered one. Delivered in April 2018 and we are very very happy with it.
Color and interior is a highly personal preference but I think one will know it when they see the one they want.
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True that within Texas toll roads, tag read or license read will charge the same amount to a toll tag account but will take many days longer to post for license read. I am not sure same will apply from out of Texas charges or if they will even do license reads. Then there are places that will read NTTA toll tags but do not read license plates at all (DFW, DAL ... ). I do feel that the total lack of any acknowledgement or concern from Lincoln and from the tolling authorities is unacceptable.
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Thats good to know. Adding noise is the last thing I would want to do. Im happy with the performance as is, if I made any changes it would be a tune of some sort as the shifting is sometimes weird..... it kinda hunts on occasion but I drive like a snail from time to time so I may be feathering the throttle which could cause that.
FYI: from 2018 Lincoln Navigator Owners Manual third printing July 2018 ...
Automatic Transmission Adaptive Learning
This feature may increase durability and provide consistent shift feel over the life of your vehicle. A new vehicle or transmission may have firm shifts, soft shifts or both. This operation is considered normal and does not affect function or durability of the transmission. Over time, the adaptive learning process fully updates transmission operation.
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I have taken the lowest price for Ford / Lincoln ESP I wanted from web shopping to my dealer and they matched it (in one case by discounting the plan and in the other be increasing my trade-in’s value beyond that agreed to by the ESP price difference). First was on a new F-150 in 2015 and the other on an ordered 2018 Black Label Navigator (purchased on X plan).