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On 2/28/2020 at 10:26 AM, chrisholland03 said:
I have a Corsair with PAAK - it was quite flaky getting set up, but once done it has worked fine in general. The key (ha!) was to delete any existing Bluetooth connection between the car and the phone, then set up the PAAK. The exterior lights up when I get near the car with the phone, and everything on the exterior works just like the key fob. I've noted on a few occasions if I jump in and try to start the car, it will tell me there's no key. If I give it about 5 seconds, it works fine.
Same thing in our Aviator... takes a couple of seconds if I jump in and hit the start button. Sometimes it will say "key not detected" but after a few seconds it registers and I can then start it. Also, walking up to the car it has taken a few seconds to register maybe twice. Seems to work just fine most of the time... about 95%.
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On 2/27/2020 at 11:39 PM, Wheeling said:
Lincoln sold 8323 Aviator in 2019. Less than XT6. I've only seen 2 in action.
Sales Numbers - Premium Three-Row Crossovers - Q4 2019 - United States
MODEL Q4 19 / Q4 18 Q4 19 Q4 18 Q4 19 SHARE Q4 18 SHARE YTD 19 / YTD 18 YTD 19 YTD 18 TOTAL +13.76% 71,016 62,424 +8.77% 236,628 217,555 ACURA MDX +3.23% 14,788 14,325 21% 23% +0.98% 52,019 51,512 INFINITI QX60 -25.90% 11,541 15,575 16% 25% -8.88% 43,162 47,370 VOLVO XC90 +36.37% 10,851 7,957 15% 13% +13.13% 35,760 31,609 BUICK ENCLAVE -29.66% 10,143 14,420 14% 23% +3.04% 51,156 49,647 AUDI Q7 -0.46% 10,100 10,147 14% 16% -7.40% 34,649 37,417 CADILLAC XT6 * 7,169 * 10% 0% * 11,559 0 LINCOLN AVIATOR * 6,424 * 9% 0% * 8,323 0 "... less than XT6.." The XT6 has been out longer than the Aviator, at least by a few months.
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2 hours ago, Bellanca said:
Having my 10K service done Friday; never received mail/email from Lincoln stating mine was ready for PAAK but I’ll see if the dealer can get it working. It’s not a huge deal to me but it would be nice to have.
just had our oil change service and asked for the paak update... they didn’t know about it and had to contact corp and they finally got an answer and the software. they updated it and in the process it updated sync and i want to say it updated something else because i had to reset my dash back to my preference to display the tech. interesting... the stereo does seem more stable now and it does the graphic scroll-tune using Sirius now. interesting again, but i’m not complaining. all works good including paak!!!
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On 12/20/2019 at 10:14 PM, Bellanca said:
Yeah I saw that as well, I just rolled past 5K and it’s not a major thing for me so I’m just going to wait until I have it serviced at 10K for them to do the update.
Same here. Going to wait till the 10K service, which I will probably have done earlier than 10K miles. Supposedly, with that update, it addresses other issues as well (software related) for better stability. That's the word from the "inside" I've heard through the grapevine. just over 4500 miles and it has been GREAT!
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11 hours ago, Gurgeh said:
I'm not sure what interior upgrades you get in the Aviator with Black Label, but if it is anything like the changes in the Nautilus it would have solved all your issues and some you didn't even know you had, except for lower door panel plastic (where it actually makes sense as that area of the car gets a lot of foot scuffs). Based on what I can see from Black Label build pictures, your dash would become high quality leather, your headliner would be extremely tactile synthetic suede, and many other leather bits would become not only more prevalent but much softer. But that also comes with a price jump...
that is true, for the aviator as well! black label aviator changes a lot... the lower door trim is even soft touch for the BL. love the suede-like headliner, the soft leather, and dash treatment.
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8 hours ago, HotRunrGuy said:
Same person?
HRG
yup. that’s me.
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6 minutes ago, jfischetti said:
What are you looking at for paint protection? Seems a bit early for them to have products cut for the Aviator. I really want one on the back bumper below the lift gate too.
Xpel already has the data in their computer for cutting their products for the Aviator. My installer already checked. Will be doing the full hood, front fenders, front bumper, rearview mirror, and headlights. I may have him throw in something for the top of the rear bumper but it is pretty shallow so the risk of having luggage or anything hit it is pretty low.
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Thanks everyone. It is a blessing to have such a vehicle. We're really loving it. Next step is for some front-end paint protection film.
I do notice that one of the roof speaker grills tabs is not locking into place (the rear driver side roof grille)... just one of the 4 plastic clips. looks like an easy fix through some bending of the plastic and metal mesh. HAHA. I didn't attempt to fix it as it would not snap into place on the one clip. It stays in place for now. Funny to even have to say this on a luxury vehicle. But, I expect small things like this, unfortunately. I may have my dealer order a new speak mesh grille and see how that goes.
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Here she is... just before I got the windows tinted. Sorry, I know this is the wrong forum post for this.. but this is an example of a unit without those "issues". I'm thankful for that, thus far.
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1 minute ago, jfischetti said:
Thanks for the update. Just curious, what causes the clicking when getting out?I'm thinking relays for the air suspension controller in addition to other power systems. Though, it sort of reminds me of Land Rovers, which isn't a good thing considering how bad their electronics are. Hate to say that.. haha.
I hear others have the same thing happen, even in the new Explorer ST. After-all, the park lights, dashboard and infotainment screen, and suspension system all come to life just by opening a door. That's not even including the door mechanics getting powered up again. After driving as many cars as I have none of this surprises me considering how many tech/electric units are on vehicles today. Only time will tell the durability of them. I'm not worried though. I'll give the Aviator a shot. It sure does look nice and people are perplexed by seeing it go down the the road. Hardly anyone knows what it is or what to make of it. The Flight Blue paint job is pretty good... though there are some very very small imperfections. But I am very picky and tend to find fault with a lot of vehicles in doing reviews often. Even flaws in six-figure cars.
One one other note, the air suspension and its road preview feature appears to work identical to the one in a new 2020 BMW 750i I got in for review... funny enough, it is the best riding 7 Series I've ever driven and it rides JUST LIKE my Aviator. I kid you not! Take it for whatever it's worth. haha.
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Well, I got our Black Label a few weeks ago. Had one issue: the front windshield camera for many systems (lane keep assist, auto high beam, etc) needed to be recalibrated and a clip for its placement was missing possibly due to the windshield having to be replaced at the factory or the offsite location for performing the recalls. Supposedly mine was held up due to the recalls. Apart from that, it’s great and all panels are straight. Got it with about 30 miles and just racking up a couple hundred miles. Having to get used to the clicking of the electronics when getting out and the indecisiveness of the air suspension lowering or not for easy exit/entry. Great vehicle and so far so good outside of the one issue, which my dealership addressed right away.
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It’s happening more often now and we will just need to accept the fact of mainstream automakers going more premium. not surprised to see it. After all, kia and hyundai are making major strides. where some of the main differences reside is the powertrain, “luxury” amenities, lower volume for the luxury brand, and service offerings where luxury brands have drop off services with loaner vehicles no question asked and avoidance of going into a dealership that sells $13k cars. trust me, the kias and hyundai’s drive nothing like the aviator. also, it works up stream... luxury buyers who are used to luxury vehicles aren’t going to go downstream unless they are seriously hard pressed - as in lack the money all of a sudden.
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On 9/2/2019 at 9:36 PM, mustangchief said:
Did you get a build date, I think only those built before 1 Aug had the issue needing resolved before delivery.
it now says “awaiting shipment” it is not a gt... a BL normal gas. haha
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4 hours ago, mustangchief said:
The new line is scheduled for start-up next month, it will take a few weeks to get everything running and passed QA. CAP is behind in production do to a few factors, but one is employees taking off without calling in. They have moved some expertise in from other factories to help out, but sometimes that is like putting water on a grease fire. That said, I ordered my GT the day the order backs opened for them also. I've learned to be patient when being an early adopter. I'm hoping by Christmas, but expecting Valentines. Until a VIN shows up for you or anyone else, they are not scheduling. I'm hoping for a VIN any week now. As far as actual timeline on a new line, there is only the best guess.
Employees taking off without calling in??? Is that something we should be concerned about when it comes to quality of our build? Wow.
My build has had a vin for a few weeks now but still “in production” it’s a normal BL. Maybe it’s being held up for qa and/or the recall work.
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1 minute ago, AlexLexusAviator said:
I read 2 or 3 reviews on different web sites, and all are very complimentary, but don't really praise it as much as I would expect. I see a commonality here in regards to the 30-way power seats - seems like most reviews I read are not convinced in their comfort. I guess I will have to see for myself, but it's not very easy to figure out how comfortable the seats are on a test drive. That would be the deal breaker for me though, so I'm, waiting for more reviews. Consumer Reports also mentioned that they found Navigator seats not very comfortable, and sounds like Aviator seats are very similar to those of Navigator. I guess time will tell.
In regards to the seats, I know in my experience they DO take a while to find your optimal position - which means the reviewer would have had to take some extra time to find that perfect comfy position. I'm willing to bet that most did not take much time. However, that optimal position is there if you search for it - in my opinion. It may take you several minutes.
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Considering those are press vehicles they were driven hard previously in small spurts, which would yield a lower overall range. If you drive the GT on the highway then refueled it the range will be higher as the computer will naturally base range off of recent MPG and driving style, just like any other MPG/DTE computer. Something to keep in mind.
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It is just me, or do these reviews vary greatly? One review says the seats aren't comfy, the other says they are excellent. One review "estimates" a 0-60 mph time of 7.5 seconds, while car and driver estimates 5.1-5.3 seconds. I'm thinking some of these folks got a little lost during the press event. Maybe they need a full week with the vehicle and some GPS-based timers. Strange, but not completely surprising.
Thoughts? Have you all read many of the new reviews today?
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Adaptive Suspension gives you the coil springs with dampers that are electronically controlled (dampened) from detected movements. A very common feature among many vehicles. In the Excite mode the dampers will firm up slightly.
Separately - With the Dynamic Handling Package, an option, you get the air suspension system, which utilizes air springs (specialized air bladders at each corner) along with adaptive dampening that is manipulated by additional control units due to the road preview that reads the road via a camera mounted above the front review mirror. The Air Suspension system also has other features for lowering during entry/exit, raising in the Deep Conditions drive mode, lowering in Excite Mode, and auto-lowering around 70 mph for better stability at highway speeds. Supposedly there are additional actuators as part of the dynamic handling package for modulation of the wheels when a rise or dip is detcted in the road to pre-load the system for a proactive adjustment to smooth out the road imperfection.
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14 hours ago, mustangchief said:
Here is a video of my X3 today on the same road
Looks like a big difference from the X3 and Aviator. Amazing. Can't wait to get ours and see how she does. I don't think most people realize how amazing tech is to actually "read" the road and make proactive adjustments like Benz has done for almost 5 years now with their trick setup and newest E-Active suspension system. Forgive me, I'm a nerd. I like going over the bumps around my area with Benz that have that system and show people how amazing it is where the bumps or dips in the road almost cannot be felt. Hope the Aviator's Dynamic Handling Package provides some of that. We shall see.
Thanks again for the videos and comparison.
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9 minutes ago, Flying68 said:
Already posted in two other locations.
My bad. LOL
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So, here is one of the first "run-downs" of the Aviator from pro journalists...
The rest of the reviews should be next week as the driving impressions are supposedly embargoed. So, look for them to drop Tuesday or Wednesday next week.
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So, looks like it will lower "some" when switching the ignition off and then lower even more upon your approach, which you demonstrate in your video.
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26 minutes ago, akirby said:
Switching the systems on or off
You can access the air suspension, liftgate and easy entry features through the information display menu settings. See General Information (page 127). Using the Service Mode When the service mode is active, the air suspension will not make any adjustments while your vehicle is stationary.
Note: Always switch the air suspension service mode to on before servicing your vehicle.Using Cargo Loading The air suspension cargo loading feature lowers your vehicle for easier access when the system detects the liftgate is opening. When the liftgate is closed your vehicle will return to its normal height after a short time. Note:To preserve your vehicle battery, your vehicle will only lower for cargo mode one to two times per ignition cycle.
Using Easy Entry The air suspension will lower your vehicle to an easier access entry height when the system detects the intelligent access key, you press the unlock button, or use the remote start. The leveling process stops when you open a door or the target level is achieved. Note:To stop the leveling process, press the lock button on the intelligent access key.
Note:To preserve your vehicle battery, your vehicle will only lower for easy entry one to two times per ignition cycle.I was just about to post that. HAHA
I'm guessing that pressing the unlock button will place it in the easy access entry height... I take it that's the door unlock button or the key fob unlock button only? hmmm.
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13 hours ago, mustangchief said:
If you put it in excite is drops down and then select snow and it goes up. It would be nice to auto lower when you put it in park. The only way I could get it down was having excite selected.
I wonder if there are any settings deep in the vehicle settings menus? Did you try to find any settings? Thought they would have put something so people could turn on or off the "kneel approach feature" or one that has it lower when you park. I don't think Ford/Lincoln would have set a default as some people would not want that function all the time or desire to set it to lower to get out of the vehicle. I'm a nerd/geek and I like to tweak settings like that... I do it all the time with many of the press vehicles I get to test drive. The Land Rovers have that feature, Benz has it, even Lexus has it in the LX570. However, BMW omitted that feature for the air suspension and you have to manually lower the height... oddly enough. However, there could be a manual override in the Aviator's settings. Especially for entering a mode that you have to set to tow the vehicle. Can't imagine that we have to pop it into Excite mode every time we park to lower it.
I think it is time that we get an online manual PDF for the Aviator and share that. I'm gonna search around. The owners manual will answer a lot of these questions.
New 2020 Aviator Owner, A question about Automatic Lowering and Lighted Greeting
in Lincoln Aviator Forum
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FYI folks, it has to be LOCKED for the walk-up and lower feature to work. Walking up to it when it is UNLOCKED wont activate anything for lowering and the greeting lights. You have to be walking up to a LOCKED vehicle - though, if you press unlock it should then activate the lowering no matter if it is locked or unlocked. So, if it is in your garage UNLOCKED sitting for hours or days, get your key fob or PAAK-activated phone and press the UNLOCK button. Give it about 10 seconds and it will lower.