Ontopya
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7 hours ago, Ididntdoit said:
you start off with bad grammar and want to play math games with me?
in 24 yrs I have never made an obscene amount, I've never worked inside nor outside of a bubble.
my $27 in 2005 is $14.65 in 2019, now imagine you had these bonuses, COLA and holidays for your first 8-12 years and then have them taken away and not given a raise for 8 years.
And then watch this guy today with 7 years cry because he's not getting that 3-4% for another year even though you waited 8 for it. I'm sorry if I ran out of sympathy after 2015.
But you want to know who did make an obscene amount? 10 convicted IUAW members. Go play math games with them.
Your math is also wrong $27/hour in 1999 is equal to $41.61 today. Remember that when you hear guys bitch about not getting a 4% lump sum bonus while you are. Honestly if you had any money management skills you shouldn’t need a $1000 put in your TESPHE because your TESPHE should already be loaded. That $1000 could’ve been used to give your brothers and sisters a 4% lump sum also.
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1 hour ago, Ididntdoit said:
you start off with bad grammar and want to play math games with me?
in 24 yrs I have never made an obscene amount, I've never worked inside nor outside of a bubble.
my $27 in 2005 is $14.65 in 2019, now imagine you had these bonuses, COLA and holidays for your first 8-12 years and then have them taken away and not given a raise for 8 years.
And then watch this guy today with 7 years cry because he's not getting that 3-4% for another year even though you waited 8 for it. I'm sorry if I ran out of sympathy after 2015.
But you want to know who did make an obscene amount? 10 convicted IUAW members. Go play math games with them.
I couldn’t get past the first sentence. You criticized me for bad grammar but started your rant with a lower case “y.”
However, keep in mind $14.65....that’s less than minimum wage in some places in this country. Take the damn buyout and get out so we can show you what a “union” is about.
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3 hours ago, Ididntdoit said:
the union cliques blue shirts red shirts election time, really nothing different then any other plant with large numbers, just Chicago's version of it.
how do you get screwed out of something you're not entitled to yet? imagine sitting at the same rate for 2 contracts. Be happy there is a raise waiting for you after your first year at top rate I was at 20 years in before I seen my first 3%.
I'll give you my 4% for an immediate release with STEP, like I want to be gone by thanksgiving with check in the bank. I know you can make it happen Fuzzy, I'm sure you know a guy that knows a guy.
Here’s what you’ll don’t understand...the hourly rate you sat at for two contracts was an obscene amount compared to the average outside of your bubble. $27 or more in 1999-2006 would be equal to what in 2019? I seriously want to see if you can give me an accurate answer before I tell you.
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8 hours ago, Ididntdoit said:
if passes we're looking to get a signing bonus around good friday, our dec bonus falls in place on time but a no vote delays all that and they have to put up with me that much longer.
that sales pitch turned 5 votes, should of been more intimidating and had my roving gangs with me I might of turned more
Only “Top Rate” Employees get the December lump sum bonus. Had they changed that to everyone gets it...then the contract would’ve been a slam dunk...However now you got a bunch of members with 5-8 years seniority that are pissed because of the wage progression and on top of that not receiving the lump sum bonus. Is it worth striking over, probably not but this would’ve had no problem passing had they changed that.
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19 minutes ago, BigDeal said:
Ok, page 8i . Definition 48
Ok...missed that. Thanks brother or sister. ?
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8 minutes ago, BigDeal said:
Look at page 23I, the company contributions are still there
I see that...but my point is...if there are no longer Company Contribution Eligible Employees, which is what I posted earlier eliminated, all the other stuff below that is a mute point. This is an example of how stuff is snuck through. If you point me to where it says who is eligible for 23I...then I will believe you.
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This is from the book of changes. Company eligible contribution employees is eliminated. Does this mean the company is no longer contributing to In Progression employees’ TESPHE accounts? I was skeptical about it when nothing was mentioned about it in the highlights. I sure as hell hope that is not the case.
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9 minutes ago, Furious1Auto said:
Despite the negativity in this radio broadcast they are actually breaking down the language. It is a good agreement in contrast to what GM agreed to. There is a clear path for temps with the cap. I would have preferred to have seen the cap on a plant per plant basis, but it’s better than no cap.
in progression get a 4% annual raise in addition the prescribed 4% bi-annual raise and lump offsets. An in progression will get an 8% - 4%+Lump - 8% - 4%+Lump.
steady raises between $1 to $2 dollars per hour every year until they top out.
Everyone did lose the Christmas bonus but it doesn’t amount to much anyway. They make more in uncapped profit sharing than they lose in Christmas bonus.
I have to support this agreement 100% and only because I know that the I-UAW is not going to take Ford out on strike to break parity on the main pillars of the language after the strike target has already ratified.
In Progression that are not at “Top Rate” do not get the 4% lump sum bonuses. Your info is wrong. I have 7 years in and will not get the first lump sum....which makes me believe that none of the In Progression employees would be eligible for it.
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In progression not at “Top Rate” do not get the 4% lump sums.
Pension eligible employees get $1000 put into TESPHE...while In Progression get $0.
That equals a BIG NO from me. Actually it’s insulting.
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These guys with 25+ years seniority bitching has me ?...Retire and take your pensions already. ? Go enjoy your last 10 years on earth. Why do you want to die in the plant or a year or two after you retire. ?♂️
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Go enjoy your last 10 years on this earth. Why do you want to die in the plant?
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These guys with 25+ years seniority bitching has me ?...Retire and take your pensions already. ?
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4 minutes ago, number1dobafan said:
great news !
I guess technically it did increase your top rate from $28 to $32. It’s the people hired in from 2012-2015 that it did nothing for.
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1 minute ago, number1dobafan said:
so say i’m at 3 years and 10 months would i still be waiting another 4 years to top out ?
Yes! This contract did nothing for you.
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If you’re in progression with between 5-8 years of service and vote yes on this contract you need your head examined. I got 7 years and was going to legacy rate next year anyway. Also to add insult they give Pension eligible employees $1000 for savings and nothing for in progression. ???
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That has to be a joke.?????
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31 minutes ago, cecilmeyer said:
The point is who gives a fuck that salary pays 15% for their healthcare WE assembly workers are the ones tearing up our bodies working 11+ hours a day on an assembly line. What are you a salary person?
No...the point is no worker in any industry should be paying 15%-25% of their healthcare, while executive pay balloons like it has the last 30 years.
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2 hours ago, Ididntdoit said:
you must be new, yes we pay 7-10% of our wage in dues after you add dues from bonuses. Don't say I'm wrong and not give the right answer.
you're actually proving my point about workers not comprehending very well.
Speaking of dues, once strike fund reaches 850 mill our dues were to be lowered. We were reaching the 800 mill mark before this strike, in order for them to continue getting the higher dues they needed to strike and spend some of that strike fund. https://uaw.org/dues-faq/
You’re wrong. Check your W-2 for the right answer. I’ve never paid more than 2%.
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9 hours ago, Ididntdoit said:
it'll pass if they get to vote, majority don't even realize how much they currently pay. UAW doesn't communicate very well and not all workers comprehend very well. Put it on a piece of paper ass a lil UAW sugar and it'll pass. Especially now those striking just realized their health care expired with the contract and they'll need to strike 8 days before eligible for cobra and strike funds even though it's written out plain as day on the UAW site they were clueless and thought they were covered for the month. And to be honest 15% is way better then medicare for all like the UAW endorsed politicians want you on. So 3% to 15% is a lot but so is paying 7%-10% of our wage in dues.
Obviously math is not your strong point. 7-10% of our wage in dues? Might want to rerun those numbers.
Amending the contract for in progression pay raises
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Do us all a favor. Take the 60k and move to Arkansas.