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  1. Icspres

    2020 Aviator Start Stop :-(

    Off topic, but my kids are really excited about heated and coold second row controlled by their very own touch screen. Kinda cool.
  2. Icspres

    2020 Aviator Start Stop :-(

    So my wife chose the Aviator. The start stop never activated during our test drive. Turns out if it's too hot, it won't engage because the compressor has to stay on. If it's too cold it won't engage because the engine needs to stay warm. I don't think it's going to bother her at all. So there you have it.
  3. Icspres

    2020 Aviator Start Stop :-(

    Agree the sales associate, though seemingly a Sr Assoc, probably isn't terribly technical and no idea how motivated she is regardless if they're going to sell every Aviator they get, which I'm sure they will. Maybe I'll get lucky and they'll have a hybrid there as well. I have confirmed though that the Aviator does have the excite setting and it does disable start-stop. Depending on how many motions are involved, roughly similar to the GLS button push hopefully.
  4. Icspres

    2020 Aviator Start Stop :-(

    Freely admit the sales associate could have been wrong, but with an $80k sale on the line, she's insistent that the behavior of the GT start-stop is identical to the rest of the lineup.
  5. Icspres

    2020 Aviator Start Stop :-(

    Copy that. You'd think that in stop and go traffic though, hybrids would be more on battery power and not starting every time you take your foot off the brake, but apparently the Aviator GT does.
  6. Icspres

    2020 Aviator Start Stop :-(

    I was surprised to hear from my dealer that the GT behaves identically to the black label, hybrid has no effect on the start-stop behavior.
  7. Icspres

    2020 Aviator Start Stop :-(

    Great to hear. Thank You. It's on our agenda for today. I'm still concerned that five years from now it will not be as smooth as it is new. All of this CAFE stuff is supposed to reduce our carbon footprint, but for the estimated 5% increase in fuel efficiency, I've got to expect the cost in service and components, long term satisfaction is going to lead to greater carbon footprint. I'll bet this feature alone is responsible for a good year or two decrease in average time a vehicle spends in service. But you can't get out of it. Our backups are a new MB GLS450 or '17 GLS63, both of which have Eco-start. Everything does now, it seems. Again, thanks for the review. I'm looking forward to our test drive in a couple hours.
  8. Icspres

    2020 Aviator Start Stop :-(

    I doubt I'm the first person who's thought it. You just keep proving my point.
  9. Icspres

    2020 Aviator Start Stop :-(

    Quite the contrary, how long you have been here doesn't give you the right to lob thinly veiled insults and left-handed compliments at the new guy. You're again taking a massive leap. My comment had only to do with how busy I am, a topic you brought up. I've been around forums since the 80s. You want to dig a hole, I'll hand you a shovel. I'm here for the right reasons but I will call out a troll, snarky or otherwise.
  10. Icspres

    2020 Aviator Start Stop :-(

    Agree completely. The problem is not blowing the surprise right? I just replace the carpet including the cargo space in her GL450, take the swirls out and sealed with ceramic for the third time. I put a lot of effort into throwing her off the scent.
  11. Icspres

    2020 Aviator Start Stop :-(

    you say you're not trolling but then you end with the quip about how you value your time more than I do. I run a 40 Man Government Contracting Company in the Cyber and network engineering space, have two small children, I'm busy from the minute I wake to the minute I go to sleep. I'm dictating right now while on an elliptical watching the news. Maybe I'm just a hell of a lot more productive than you are. I've driven quite a number of cars with start-stop, mostly Mercedes and Porsche loaners. I have a pretty good idea what's the best it could be is. And I did say I was going to take a test drive. When it comes in if not sooner. Would you say it's a better or worse use of my time to figure out which cars I want to spend an hour going to test drive from a cellphone on an elliptical watching the news or do you think I'm better off figuring it out in person test driving each car?
  12. Icspres

    2020 Aviator Start Stop :-(

    So you consider doing my research a new car purchase for my 20th anniversary to be hyper fixating? Are you imagining me sitting in the dark wringing my hands over it? You also seem to think I've never driven a car with start-stop before? Or that my wife and I don't have some reasonably well formed opinion of our own? I'm not big fan of feeding trolls but don't you think that's a little bit of a leap?
  13. Icspres

    2020 Aviator Start Stop :-(

    Do Ecoboost motors restart by firing the piston closest to top like MB or does it hit the starter each time?
  14. Icspres

    2020 Aviator Start Stop :-(

    This thing is supposed to be a 20th anniversary present for my wife. This ******** is forcing me to come clean and take her to the dealership when it comes in about 6 weeks before our actual date to do that very thing. Unless I cancel between now and then. She's been in two MB GL's over the last decade and frankly fully optioned the Aviation isn't much cheaper. I'd like to go American again, but if the MB is more pleasant to drive, to include a BUTTON to turn it off every time as opposed to some features menu, that's a quality of life issue that can't be ignored.
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