F350Fanatic
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My dealership hooked me up right and got my vehicle PDI’d quick. I’m so happy with it and it rides smoother than I expected especially considering it’s a 350. Thank you to all who answered questions and entertained all the crazy!
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Today might be the day!!!!! Let’s goooo!
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2 hours ago, EastMark said:
Check your driveway ! HahaIm in production for the last week. Chat yesterday said estimated ETA is 5-20 to 5-26.
No idea how accurate that is but…..Time will tell !
Mine said the same thing. I was in production for about a week and my truck shipped 5 April. Took 6 days to ship to Jessup Md and it’s been there for about two weeks just waiting on a transporter to load it up and drive it the last hour and a half.
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44 minutes ago, AggieF350 said:
Mine said something like being prepared by dealer or something like that if it was at the dealer
Maybe my hopes are just too high hahaha. Yesterday it said shipping so I was hoping it had been delivered and ford purged my vin from their tracking system. Hahaha
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So I tried to check my order status this morning and the website says it can’t process the order and the check the VIN. Does this mean my truck might be sitting at the dealer?!?!?
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Does anyone know if/how you can track your truck from its final rail destination to the dealership? My truck arrived yesterday morning at Annapolis Junction just an hour and a half from my dealer. Is it even possible to know when it is scheduled to be delivered? My dealer says they often don’t know and that they just show up. VINView also said yesterday my truck was in Ohio when CSX said it had arrived to Annapolis.
Thanks
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46 minutes ago, AggieF350 said:
I don’t know if this was asked before or not on the order tracker my truck has been in production since 3-30-23 says build week of 4-8-23 yesterday trying to figure out how long it should be in production seems like a long time to me
Mine was in production for about a week before I got built status and then one day to get shipped status.
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Just saw my modules populated today. Anyone have an idea how long it should be before I see shipping with an eta?
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I have a question for those with experience in ordering vehicles from ford… my truck(f350 ccsb lariat non ultimate 7.3l) has been in production since 21 March. It’s now been over a week. When should I expect production to be complete(considering there are no holds on anything in my build)? When I got my VIN, my dealer thought delivery would be end of April or mid May but I’m eager to see what ford projects as a delivery date.
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1 hour ago, KevinLK said:
I'm wondering if the trucks already built with the Tow Tech package will get the Trailer Hitch Assist added before they're shipped. I'll bet it's just a software change.
I wondered the same thing. Maybe even and over the air update for the existing packages. I doubt it because why would they raise the price like that instead of just saying the software would be made available later. The plot thickens. ?
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1 hour ago, steaknpotatoes said:
yeah my Tow Tech package price changed as well. It will come with Hitch Assist. Not sure how good that feature will be since the backup camera does a pretty good job.Are you sure that’s true? That’s my thought as well but without getting the info from my sales manager I don’t know of any way to see the actual order codes to prove it.
im sure we would get it for the original price too because of price protection.
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4 hours ago, ImmortalJman said:
According to the Ford Guy on YouTube, it's possible that scheduling picks for this week might include job 2 builds, which will start in April. I'm assuming he'll post a video about that when it happens. But it's really likely to happen next Thursday scheduling round.
That’s what I’m hoping. Interesting note…my build has the tow technology package and when I saw my sticker I was shocked to see the price change for it go from 925 to 1570. I didn’t figure It out until I saw his video. Fingers crossed it comes with the hitch assist. Total first world add on but it’d be cool to have.
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5 hours ago, Rangers09 said:
The Super Duty window stickers don't include a blend date. Mine started building a day after the date in the tracker and took 2 days before showing built. All this info is available from your dealer on the VVR.
With a build date of 29th March, you may see your window sticker tomorrow. Good luck.
That’s interesting. I wonder why they don’t have a blend date like every other vehicle. It would be great if my experience matches yours. We shall see!
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6 hours ago, Rangers09 said:
When mine showed "In Production" in the tracker, my F-450 order was sent to the plant. A day after seeing "In Production" my window sticker was available.
That’s the same with me. It wasn’t till later in the day but super exciting to see. I still don’t have a blend date yet but I’m assuming that because my “production week” said Wednesday 29 March that 29 March will also be my blend date assuming no delays. We will see.
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35 minutes ago, system said:
When you have a date show up under "in production" you will know that it's actually in the process of being built. To verify it's built, you can always use your VIN number on the Ford Service website. If all the modules populate, then you know she's alive...
https://www.motorcraftservice.com/Home/SetCountry?returnUrl=%2FAsBuilt
Thanks that’s awesome. I was wondering where folks were seeing their modules come to life.
I had finally relaxed on waiting for my order and now it’s all I can think about again.
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On Monday my dealer called me and said my VIN had been created and I was scheduled for production on 29 March 2023. What was weird was that the ford tracking website said “week of 29 March” on Tuesday morning the status changed to in production. Does this actually mean my truck is being built or is it more that the parts are being prepared for the assembly line and the truck will actually be built a few days from now? I’m just curious what I should expect going forward. I’m not worried about the shipping because I will get those updates and “tracking” from the dealer. I just know there is a lot happening behind the scenes at the plant that they order tracking site does not show.
Thank you!
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1 hour ago, AggieF350 said:
What’s going on with the 7.3 ? I saw something awhile back but thought they had fix that problem
I may be wrong and this was an old issue that was fixed already but I saw a bunch of videos and comments posted recently across forums that issues were found with the cams and lifters delaminating. I hope I’m wrong I chose the engine because it is supposed to be a beast and super reliable. Plus I don’t tow enough to justify the 6.7.
Gig ‘em!
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9 hours ago, livinlogs said:
I’m assuming I’m like some of you on here . I see lots of posts where people got their vins and a date . I haven’t . Ordered 10/27/22. No trims or items that were supposed to be job 2 and still nothing . Is it likely I have nothing because I’m priority 19? I’m guessing that’s the case . Just wondering if there are others like me out there
Same here! I’m pri 12 7.3 f350 standard lariat with SAP and 4.30 gears. Nothing insane. According to my dealer he had three orders scheduled which then made me third in line based on priority only to get scheduled. This was before the reports of delaminating issues with the 7.3 that I’ve seen on other forums and folks getting their build dates pushed back from February to the end of April. Just plan on continuing to wait and stack that cash to lower the finance payment.
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27 minutes ago, akirby said:
Even though there are no published commodity constraints, in any given week any part could be unavailable due to shipping delays or supplier delays. That could cause certain orders to be passed up for others in that week’s scheduling.
Your dealer may not be telling the truth or if it’s not the sales mgr just unaware of order status. Does your dealer’s Ford inventory search show any 2023 trucks with VINs?
That makes sense. All the info I've gotten has come from the sales manager. I just checked their website and they do not show any 2023 super dutys in inventory.
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26 minutes ago, akirby said:
Makes no difference. And where did you get the idea that orders are processed first in first out based on order date? That’s incorrect.
It came directly from the ford customer service chat. The rep told me that I had a high priority of 12 and that ford works to build in the order they were received and that I should be getting a build date "any day".
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40 minutes ago, blackduty said:
Here's something that might help you understand better how it all works.
I see this question a lot. So, I'll try to answer it (subject to corrections).
It is largely determined by (1) dealer allocation, (2) order priority, and (3) component availability and (4) production capacity (part shortages not withstanding).
Placing Your Order at the Dealership:
Two (major) things affect your order once your dealer enters it into the system: priority order code and dealer allocation.
Priority Code:
Ford only schedules so many orders (from dealers) each week. As a result, each dealership has to determine what order (sequence) their truck orders should be picked up in. A holding queue for that dealership, if you will, with all the truck orders in a single line from which only one truck at a time can be released, is needed. Think of it as thread off of a spool or a print job from a printer queue.
To do this, the dealer uses/assigns a priority code from 10 to 99 to each order. If your dealer prints your order or shows you the screen, you'll see it on there.
While 10 is a lower numerical number, it is the highest priority order code a dealer can assign. Subsequently, while 99 is a higher numerical value, it is the lowest priority. Think of a priority order code the same way you would think of a college football player being "ranked" for an upcoming draft (1st is highest ranked, then 2nd, then 3rd, etc.). Until the orders are selected for scheduling by Ford, the priority order codes only apply internally at each dealership. Meaning, this is the order in which that the dealership will "release" the customer orders in when Ford asks for them. This allows the dealership to prioritize certain trucks AHEAD of other trucks, regardless of when the customer actually placed the order. That's why it pays to get the highest priority order code (lowest number) assigned to your order. Dealerships often (but not always) assign lower priority order codes (higher numbers) to stock orders while assigning higher priority order codes (lower numbers) to retail orders so you (a retail buyer placing an order) get your truck faster, which means they sell a truck faster.
Before moving on, note that while the highest priority order code a DEALERSHIP can assign is 10, Ford Motor Company (the manufacturer) can assign a priority order code of 01 to 09. Essentially, Ford can decide if any particular dealer orders should be prioritized higher than "most" others. They often use higher priority to replace vehicles damaged during transport.
So at this point, we have a list of truck orders for each dealer and the orders are lined up in the sequence that the dealer wants them pulled for scheduling based on their priority order code. I believe tiebreakers (same priority order code for more than one truck) are determined by the date/time the order was entered).
Allocation:
Ford allows each dealer to order a certain number of F150's per week. This is called dealer allocation. The number of trucks a dealership is allocated differs from dealer to dealer. One dealer may have an allocation of 10 trucks per week, while another might have 50 per week. Ford determines allocation for each dealer, largely depending on how many trucks that dealership is moving.
Keep allocation in mind for later.
How Orders are Picked From Order System (from the dealers) FOR Scheduling:
On WED/THU of each week, the Ford planning system reviews all the orders at the dealerships to select which ones it is going to accept into the system for purposes of scheduling them to be built. It does NOT just take ALL orders and schedule them for build.
Which sequence the orders are selected to come into the planning system is based on a combination of (a) round-robin dealership selection process (think of it as teams participating in the NFL draft) and (b) allocation (how many TOTAL orders (aka players) a single dealer can select during the entire draft (for the entire week).
Here's the process, at very high level:
Think of the selection process working like the "draft" process for major sports: Each team (dealer) gets ONE choice per "round" to send ONE order for planning, just like each team gets to select ONE college player per round.
Round 1: Each dealership gets ONE choice. For each dealership, the truck with the highest priority order code (lowest number) within that dealership is selected. Once every dealer has had the opportunity to send ONE order for planning, its starts back over. Same order of teams, just a new round.
Round 2: Each dealer, again, gets ONE choice. They send the truck order that had the next highest priority order code (lowest number) in their queue.
Round 3, 4, 5 ... : It goes from round to round allowing each dealer to get ONE pick per round, and each dealer picking their highest priority customer order left in the queue.
Now here's the tricky part: Remember dealer allocation?
Dealers don't just get to keep submitting orders until every order they have has been sent for scheduling. This is largely due to capacity and material planning.
Each week, each dealer will only have orders picked for scheduling until the dealer's number of orders selected reaches their allocation. For example, if a dealership's allocation is 10 trucks per week, that dealership will "cut off" from having more orders selected for scheduling starting in "Round 11". That dealership is done participating in the draft for that week.
After allocation is met and a dealer is cut off for the week, the orders left over in that dealership's internal queue must now wait until NEXT week for the same process to begin.
The very next WED/THU, the same process starts again: Round-robin, highest priority, next highest priority, etc., until allocation is met for that week, then no more for that dealership again until the following week.
This is why it, if you're trying to order a vehicle that is in high demand, you should work with a dealer that has a very large allocation. They can order more trucks per week. It' less likely that your order will get held over until the following week (or weeks).
Allocation is why some people on here have been waiting for several MONTHS just to see their truck get scheduled to be built, while other guys ordered much LATER, yet their trucks are already scheduled, built, or delivered.
How Picked Orders are Scheduled for Build AFTER Ford Selects Them Each Week:
Remember when I said that priority order code only applies internally? Well, that now changes. Now, the priority order code is a factor in determining which orders get scheduled before other orders across all dealership orders.
Let's say that 15,000 orders for F150 trucks are selected to be scheduled for build. The order with the highest priority (lowest number) gets scheduled first. Lots of trucks have the same priority code, so the process generally follows a pattern of date/time the order was entered (selected during the "draft", which was based on the date/time the orders were entered). It's actually more involved then that, but that's it in a nutshell.
Vehicles are first assigned to be built during a certain week (shows as a Monday date). As it gets closer to that week, the vehicles are assigned to specific build DATES (the day of). All of this is based on (and sometimes is affected later by) a variable plethora of variables, including material planning/component and part availability, plant production capacity and rates, the labor issues or weather causing delays or shortages, etc., etc..
Understand that trucks are not built in the order of the VIN number. A VIN is assigned before a truck is built. There are many factors that affect when a truck will be assigned to be built, but suffice it to say, they aren't in VIN order.
As a consequence, the assembly plant needs a way to keep track of what order they WILL build the trucks in. If they didn't, they would not be able to ensure that the RIGHT parts are at the RIGHT places at the RIGHT times. Today, many components are shipped to the assembly plants either sequences (a specific component is going to be installed on one EXACT VIN) or they are shipped "just in time". The latter simply allows Ford to maintain a much smaller component inventory level. If you go back 15-20 years or more, they used to keep much more inventory on hand -- sometimes WEEKS. Carrying inventory costs money, and JIT reduces this cost.
How they keep track of the build order is by what is called a BLEND number. Actually, it's a combination of a BLEND number and a ROTATION number, but that's not important.
A blend number is nothing more than bank of numbers assigned in numerical order to a vehicle when it's scheduled. For the F150, it's ~10K numbers from 0001 to 9999 The trucks are built in order of blend number. 3456 is after 3455 and before 3457. Occasionally, an odd blend number will come along. If a vehicle build is put on hold at the last minute, simply re-insert it (same blend number) somewhere later.
Hope this helps someone understand the order and scheduling process.
blackduty,
Thank you for the detail and explanation. It does provide a lot of insight. I guess the only point where I have some confusion is with the allocation. I am ordering from a dealership in Southern Maryland which is not a mega dealer but its not super small either. The Sales Manager said he has not had any orders selected yet for a build date which I find surprising considering Ford builds an average of 25K Super Duty's per month (based on MY 22 figures).
Based on what you said above it sounds like large dealerships are almost guaranteed to get a weekly allocation but others may not be so lucky. Is that accurate? Or would it be more accurate to say every dealer should be getting at least one order selected but the large ones will obviously get significantly more?
thank you again for your help and insight.
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26 minutes ago, le engineer said:
When you ask that question, it needs to be a sales manager. Ordinary salespeople rarely control the order bank. They’re just going to tell you what they think you want to hear. You should also ask when they intend to bump you up to priority 10 or petition the zone manager for 02.
I would assume you’re behind anyone rolled over from 2022, anyone who ordered before you in MY 2023, and probably anyone with a more profitable order. Example: someone offering over sticker to jump the line.
Thank you! Also very fair points. It probably doesnt help that I am ordering using for A/Z Plan. I will send those questions their way and see what they come back with. I really appreciate your feedback.
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26 minutes ago, le engineer said:
Your dealer may have other builds prioritized ahead of you. Allocation and priority code are key. If your dealer gets 10 trucks picked up for scheduling each month and still has 30 people with buildable configurations ahead of you on their priority list, simple math tells us you’re not getting picked up for another 3 months at the earliest.
le engineer, Thank you. I totally understand and that is not a question that I have asked. They gave me a Pri 12 which i feel is pretty good but you are right, without the full picture I have no way of knowing. I will pose that question to them so I can gain some visibility and better manage my expectations.
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2 hours ago, AskF350 said:
I’ve had to call ford marketing quite a bit and it’s actually pretty simple a lot easier than try to get ahold of my salesman
could not agree more. My salesman is very uninformed and has to run to the sales manager for just about every question which delays responses or results in a game a telephone and even more questions. I wish ford marketing could provide more details than they do but at least its easier to get a faster response. Also surprised that ford cannot give us the ability to search a status prior to receiving a VIN. I think that would significantly reduce the calls and chats they get on a daily basis.
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I got the 7.3 in my 2023 f350 lariat with 4.30 gears and it goes great. I’m getting 16mpg unloaded hey and about 9 towing my 30ft camper.
Maintenance question…does anyone have a solution for the inaccessibility of the fuel filter? Manual says it’s a life of vehicle item which we all know is bs. Are y’all planning to retrofit a second filter in line that you can access to replace? Are you looking or an aftermarket tank that provides an accessible feature?
What do you think?