ImmortalJman

Once they finished their scheduled 23's by Oct30 then any left over '23 will not be built. Mine is in that pool.

Interesting, because I haven't received an email at all, well except the previous ones for a while. I did not receive a '23 and have a '24 on order.

I'm curious if the multicontour seats were deleted.?

If you choose the Chrome Appearance package it adds that to the tail gate.

I agree with akirby. Demand is simply outpacing supply for Ford. Chevy, GMC and to some extent Ram trucks don't have the same demand, therefore they are more available.

That's exactly what Ford decided. It also saves lots of money. Like I've said before. It's a business decision that they made but I don't have to accept it. That's why I wasn't got to take delivery of my 23 if it was missing a trim level feature. Fortunately, mine never got built, thus avoiding that, and now I have a 24 order in.

Actually Ford just approved use for priorities 3-9 as well. That happened I think about 3 weeks ago. The Ford Video guy from Long McArthur just confirmed that last week in his video.

Well spoken. Someone else pointed out their channel to me and they've been super helpful. Yeah I know I don't have to take the '23 and not will I. I'm not that concerned, I feel pretty comfortable saying that it's not going to be built. I'm still considering changing to a Platinum though. That 1% difference in expected capacity makes a big difference at scale.

Did you do two different dealers? So far I've kept it a KR. But my dealer seems to think a Lariat will have a better chance but I haven't asked if the ones he said got built were the Ultimate package.

What I found interesting at my dealership is that there were 16 F450 KR on order and none of them got scheduled, however a number of Platinum and Lariats got built and all were the same priority as mine (that's another topic). It's funny but between the KR and Platinum, there is very little difference. It's mostly down to interior style options. Both are outfitted with the exact same equipment. So, I wonder what part/parts of the KR trim are so constrained. For my new order I'm deciding between bumping to the Platinum or Lariat Ultimate. With the exception of the MC seats, I'd be optioning it with the same equipment as the KR or platinum, which makes me wonder if that wouldn't really be avoiding the problem.

I heard that these were given out to dealers shortly after the last video cast about the Maverick and Super Duty 24MY. I believe that's how FordVideoGuy from Long McArthur described it as well. The pic is identical to the one I received from my dealer today in fact, except the numbers are different for expected allocations.

What's really bizarre is the constraints on 19.5" tires, which are on the f450. I'm in the same boat. F450 KR. There's supposed to be scheduling up until Aug 3 then I'm guessing a pause or clean up scheduling until 24MY starts. The good thing is at least 24MY will be scheduling all trim levels throughoutbthe production cycle.

All of these "this is the way it is" insights are easily chipper coming from someone who ordered a trim level that Ford garunteed will have all features they promised, seems to be very disingenuiness. Let me go through the platinum list and choose some things to toss out for you, as you're so willing to have done. If you get upset, then you are the kind of person that buys the platinum for the features. If not, then you have no business buying it and you really needed an XLT or so.

All points have been valid. And to be upfront it could be any trim level feature. It just happens to be the seats. I'm aware that there's a list so long that there will be 0 trouble selling it off and someone will pay dearly for it while the dealer gets to screw someone openly and honestly, I don't care. I know the supply chain problems for every dealer, I don't care. I know 24 is not likely to be any better and with my luck it will be worse. I'm not blaming Ford, I know they can't control it. Every business has to have a strategy for how they face these problems. I don't need to agree with their solution. And to be frank, taking it in the butt is what they're hoping you do and you thank them for it too and you might even/will toss in a few meaningless thousands of dollars for the pleasure. If enough people agreed and did that and for some miracle they didn't sell it on a lot, I garuntee they would change their strategy. However, I know it won't send a msg given they have no need to give incentives, advertise for their SD, etc...I don't care. I agree the price will go up, as it usually does, I do care but I'm still going to take a truck that is complete from a trim level perspective. If I need to take off a moonroof, oh well it's optional equipment. But trim level options should be there, even if they had to say, we'll install it later in the next year. I'm aware that none of us have any clue about who we each are, our backgrounds, culture, demographics, experience...if someone wants it one way and someone else wants it that way, fine. It's how the world works and a vehicle won't go to waste.

I hear you on the profit...but 1. I'm not really interested in playing that game. 2. Ild feel shitty selling a truck that wasn't built properly and then charging an insane amount for it. And 3. It might be small but maybe it will let Ford know that I'm not happy that they're doing things this way. Like everyone else has said, if it were something Ford would make good later and install, then ok. But a trim level feature that is missing, absolutely not. Now there lll be a whole lot of the 'same' trucks being sold second hand at some point and the only way to know if it has this feature is to go see it personally. Because no dealer is going to care and post that it's not there. And to be fair, if they were asked about it, they might not even know how to find out if it's there. I'm sorry gentlemen but I'm a firm believer in voting with my wallet because money talks. I doubt it it will say anything in the current limited inventory climate but I'm still going to do it. BTW: I don't believe there's a chance in hell of actually getting scheduled. Based off of sales orders left to complete, and that 48% of orders were H/O and how many production can actually accommodate for a F450 KR...there's no way it's going to happen. I'm already prepping myself for a MY24.

So I'm kind of not wanting my order to get scheduled (not that I think it really stands a chance when they do this last scheduling), but, if the multicontour seats are exhausted for the rest of the model year, then I'm not interested. Yeah, I might be a bit weird but I was really looking forward to that and I don't want to be one of the oddball secondhand sale trucks that doesn't have all the options or equipment that's a part of that trim level. It's different if it's like a selectable option like a moonroof or upfitter switches, etc. Granted this feature isn't one most people would notice unless they are a Ford fan and know what they're looking for. But I can say that I would not keep this truck very long so that I could get the truck that I wanted originally. Anyone else thinking the same thing.

On the note of production scheduling there is some good news. Since the opening of job 2 it's been limited production of KR, Platinum and Limited but startinf with July's allocations they will be at maximum production for KR, Platinum and Limited and will schedule for 13 weeks. From this I can assume that means if you don't get scheduled in about 2 weeks it means it won't get picked up for my23. The video link is attached below for reference and more details about what constraints will be lifted and what needs to be removed if you want to get scheduled. Jump to 30 min mark for SD.

As of this week's report capacity is actually only 10% but 48% of orders are HO Diesel! As for being built, if doesn't improve and your order still has the HO it will more difficult to get scheduled unless your dealer has lots of allocations and your close to next in line at your dealer and you have no additional constraints. As yours is a Lariat Ultimate one of those constraints is the Pro Trailer back-up assist which I think is a part of the Ultimate package, I can't remember. So, that too could prevent scheduling.

Do both OTP and KTP build the 450's?.I know there's been some debate on that in the past?

There was a time long ago when I was impressed with the strides the Duramax and Allison transmission were making, not that it was really competing with Super Duties greatly. Right, now I really only think Ram is a strong competitor, but their cab design and dash layout drive me nuts. My father-in-law has one and wishes he could afford a Ford. If I ever get mine he says he'll be pretty jealous. Something that was pointed out to me is that there are incentives and inventory for Dodge, GMC and Chevy...which means they need to INCENTIVISE customers to buy their vehicles. Ford has not offered that, for better or worse, in many years because they have no problem selling their trucks; just supplying them right now. I'm not ready to buy a lesser vehicle if this THE truck I want for years. Someone in here mentioned their 2018 Chevy was on their last legs and needed a truck now. While it's possible that this person has beat the snot out of it, I've done A LOT of miles towing, 4wheeling and everything else in-between...but it's lasted me 23 years. I need a newer tow vehicle for efficiency and I'm impressed with the new upgrades that have been added, so it's time to get a new one. Except for the aforementioned Ram, I've not seen a newer GMC/Chevy last that long.

Trim Level?

I forgot to ask, but what is your build?

Well, that's progress. I believe I'm going to be a unicorn build the way the constraints are going.

It has been limited scheduling of KR and Platinums since the start of Job 2. The trailer backup assist has been very limited scheduling, which of course is a part of these trim levels. Then add on the 7.3 limited scheduling, or even the diesel HO version, not to mention moonroofs or the myriad of other appearances...I think it's safe to say that fewer KR, Platinums and Limiteds will be built this MY than in 22. That's sad and very frustrating. I really had hoped that they had learned from MY22 and the new supply deals and the price increase would help garuntee a better supply flow. But that has long since proved to not be the case. I had a hope of getting a truck by the end of the year but since they're ending the run in October, I'm pretty sure I'll have to wait until MY24.

Wow. Good luck. Hopefully that remains true.