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THATS GOOD NEWS THAT THEY ARE TAKING LOCKOUT SERIOUSLY IN LIMA A LOSS OF LIFE IS VERY SAD AND SOME PEOPLE LIKE TO CUT CORNERS AND FOR US IN CLEVELAND WE HAVE HAD TO MANY LIFES LOST!!!!!

OH GARY 112 YOUR NUMBERS MAKE NO SENSE!!! IF 115 TOOK THE BUYOUT AND 35 ARE TRADES THAT LEAVES 80 PRODUCTION!!!! IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY IN PLT 2 TOOK IT ITS DONE ON SHEAR NUMBERS!!!!SO SUBTRACT 16 FOR JAG LINE THAT IS 64 PRODUCTION!! ASS FOR ADDING 40 TO THE RFF LINE WHERE THE LEAFLET ON THIS!!!!! OH THATS RIGHT JUST MORE RUMORS FROM YOU!!!! SO YOU HAVE 64 PRODUCTION PLUS HOW MANY TRADES THAT JUMP TO PRODUCTION!!!! SO GARY 112 AS FAR AS I CAN TELL YOU JUST LIKE TO BULLSH?*T AND MAKE STUFF UP JUST LIKE YOUR FATHERS GUY HAMILTON AND DENNIS PATTON!!!!!!!! AND FOR PLANT 1 IT'S GONE!!!! HOW COME IN LIMA A SUPERVISIOR AND UNION EMPLOYEE GET CAUGHT IN A MACHINE NOT LOCKED OUT AND GET NO TIME OFF? LETS SEE THE UNION BENDS OVER FOR THE COMPANY AND FOR THAT REASON ALONE PLANT 1 WILL GET ALL IT'S EQUIPMENT SHIPPED TO LIMA AND LIMA WILL BE AT 100% CAPACITY!!!!!!!!!! LATER!!

SO GARY 112 I'M STILL WAITING FOR MY FLYER ABOUT PLANT 1 I THOUGHT YOU SAID A COUPLE DAYS ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE WRONG!!!! I GUESS WHAT YOU TYPE ON THIS SITE YOU JUST MAKE IT UP OR THE ONLY OTHER THING IT COULD BE IS THAT YOUR GOD!!!!! YOU KNOW ALL WISE ONE!!!!THAT FLYER SAID APRIL 7TH "TENTATIVE" FOR PLT 2 !!!WHEN HAS FORD OR THE UNION EVER LET US HAVE A 2 MONTH WINDOW FOR A LAYOFF NOT SINCE I'VE BEEN WORKING THERE!!! YOUR CONFUSED YOU REALLY THINK THE CARE ABOUT YOU ALL THE CARE ABOUT IS GETTING 14 $ A HOUR PEOPLE IN THAT SITE!!!!!! AND TRUST ME GUY HAMILTON WANTS 14$ PEOPLE IN PLT #1 TO BRAINWASH THEM!!!! GARY 112 STOP LIVING IN YOUR BUBBLE AND WAKE UP CONFUSED ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SORRY FURIOUS1AUTO NOT DIRECTING ANYTHING YOUR WAY ALL TO THIS WANNA BE UNION REP!!!!!!!

FIRST OF ALL JACKASS I DON'T REPRESENT ANYONE BUT MYSELF!!! SECOND OF ALL I'M JUST SAYING WHAT I HEARD SO IF YOU WANT TO GET YOUR PANTIES IN A BUNCH OVER IT THEN SO BE IT!!!! THIS FORUM IS FOR US TO WRITE WHAT WE HEAR!!! SO SOME OF IT MUST BE TRUE BECAUSE YOU DIDNT ANSWER ANY OF THE QUESTIONS !!! I WAS TOLD JUST GO BACK TO MY CORN FIELD(THE RIGHT WAY TO SPELL IT) AS FOR PLANT 1 I ASKED MY COM. MAN AND HE SAID THEY(THE UNION) SAID JAN 09. GARY 112 I HAVE YET TO SEE YOU PUT ANYTHING GOOD ON THIS SITE SO WHY DON'T YOU TAKE UR VIEWS AND CRAM THEM IN UR ASS!!!!!!!!!!! FOR FUAW WELL SAID WELL SAID!!!!!!!! AS FOR THE VOLUME INCREASE IN PLANT 1 I GUESS FORD HAS NEVER BROKE THE CONTRACT BEFORE RIGHT LOL LOL

WELL GARY112 THEN WHY AT THE UNION MEETING DID GUY HAMLITON TELL ME AND 10 OTHER PEOPLE HE HAD NO START UP MONEY!! AND HIS WORDS WERE HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR PLANT 1 WILL OPEN AND I HAD 4 SUPERVISORS TELL ME AT THERE MEETING THAT JAN ALLMAN TOLD THEM PLANT 2 NIGHT SHIFT MUST GO ASAP AND THAT PLANT 1 HAS BEEN "DELAYED TILL JAN OF 09" GARY UR THE ONLY ONE SAYING AUG CALL ACROSS THE STREET TO THE UNION HALL ASK ANY UNION OFFICAL THE WILL TELL YOU THE SAME!! IN THE CASTING PLANT ALL COMMITTEE PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT TO!!!!! AS FOR AVON THATS WHAT I HEARD WAS 100 PEOPLE 50 AT A TIME!!! I KNOW THE WORK ETHIC OF SOME BROOKPARK PEOPLE SUCK BUT NOT ALL OF US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I HOPE YOUR RIGHT AND IT ONLY 22 BUT I TALK TO AN OLD FRIEND FROM AVON HE SAID AROUND 50-75 DONT KNOW BUT I HOPE IT'S ONLY 22!!!! :happy feet:

WELL UNION BROTHERS AND SISTERS HERE'S THE SCOOP IN CLEVELAND!!! PLANT#2 GOING TO ONE SHIFT ASAP PROABLY 2-3 WEEKS!! PLANT#1 POSTPONED TILL JAN OF 09!!!! CASTING PLANT GETTING RID OF 2 CORE LINE COMBINE 0 AND 1 CLEANING LINE 7 MOLD LINE GONE 2 COOLER GONE AND CLEANERS GONE ALL SUPPOSED TO BE DONE BY APRIL 1(HOW IRIONIC?) ALL IN ALL BETWEEN 250-300 PEOPLE ON THE STREETS NO INVERSE( TO LONG WONT DO A YEAR ONLY 6 MTHS)!!! THE RUMOR IS 100 PEOPLE GOING TO AVON LAKE!!! I WAS TOLD BY A UNION PERSON AND A COMPANY PERSON!!!! THE COMPANY HAD A SITE WIDE MAN. MEETING YESTERDAY FROM 5-6 PM ASK ANY SUP AND THEY TELL U THAT ITS NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR BROOKPARK!!!!

THIS TWO TIER WAGE SYSTEM FROM WHAT I'M TOLD IS FOR EVERY ONE OVER 10 YEARS YOUR WAGE IS FROZE FOR THE NEXT 4 YEARS. FOR EVERY ONE WITH LESS THAN 10 YEARS YOU GET DROPPED TO 18.00 AN HOUR. ON TOP OF ALL THAT THEY WANT US TO PAY HEALTH CARE NOE FORD KNOWS WHEN THEY DO THIS THE LESS THAN 10 PEOPLE WILL QUIT OR DO NO WORK I HAVE 9 YEARS IN IF I GET SCREWED BUY THE COMPANY I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE IT MY ALL EVERYDAY FOR LESS MONEY!!!!! TRIMDINGMAN YOU COULDN'T SAY IT ANY BETTER!!! MADMAN YOUR ON THE RIGHT PATH!! FANTASTICFORD GO STICK YOUR HEAD UP YOUR A** BECAUSE YOU NOW NOTHING YOU JUST WANT TO START SOME SH*T AND YOU EXCEEDED!!! THE UAW CAN BE STRONG AGAIN IF WE GET SOME PEOPLE IN THERE THAT CAN'T RETIRE AND HAVE SOMETHING TO WORK FOR!!!

CSMJ IF TIM IS THE BEST THING GOING THEN HOW COME EVERY TIME WE GET SCREWED HE SAYS IT WILL BE ALRIGHT TAKE PLANT 1 FOR EXAMPLE WE AGREE TO THE COA AND NEXT THING HE SAYS WE'LL BE HERE FOREVER 2 MONTHS LATER A SHIFT GOES AND THEN THE WHOLE PLANT!!!!! TIM WILL GIVE THE FARM AWAY TO KEEP 1 PERSON WORKING HOW ABOUT THE REST OF US?????? AND THE FOUNDRY WHAT DO YOU THINK THERE SAYING NOW AFTER FRIDAYS ACCIDENT WHY DID DEARBORN COME DOWN SO QUICK? MAYBE TO SHUT THE MOTHER DOWN ASAP?? LIKE I'VE SAID BEFORE THINK REALITY NOT LIKE IT'S SOME FAIRY TAIL!!!! AND 4 FUAW WELL PUT WELL PUT!!!!!!

CSMJ, TALK ABOUT FACTS.CHECK YOUR UNION BOOK AND IT STATES IF A PRODUCT IS NEVER RAN (THE D-35) THEN YOU CAN NOT TRANSFER WITH IT WE ALL ASKED GUY BEFORE WE LEFT AND HE SAID SINCE WE DID NOT RUN A PRODUCTION D-35 THAT WE COULD NOT FOLLOW IT TO LIMA.THE ONLY D-35'S WE RAN WERE TEST ENGINES FOR OAKVILLE AND CHICAGO!!SO WHAT I WAS TOLD IS THAT IF PLANT 1 GO TO LIMA WE CAN NOT TRANSFER SINCE WE NEVER MADE A PRODUCTION D-35..PLUS YOU THINK THE COMPANY DIDN'T KNOW THAT WHY DO YOU THINK THEY IDLED IT FOR A YEAR??MAYBE TO SEE CUSTOMER DEMAND?MONEY? OR MAYBE TO SEE IF THEY CAN GET LIMA TO SELL US OUT DOWN THE RIVER? I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THE INTERNATIONAL UNION LETS LIMA FU*K THE UNION AND GIVES EVERYTHING TO THE COMPANY???? MAKES YOU WONDER HUH? AND THE TAX ABEMENT FORD ONLY GETS THAT IF THERE IS 700 WORKERS IN PLANT 1 ASK YOU WILL FIND OUT THAT IM RIGHT THE MAYOR OF BROOKPARK WOULD CHANGE THAT IF FORD WILL AGREE TO KEEP PLT 1 OPEN!! IF I WHERE A BETTING MAN I WOULD GO TO ROUGE OR AVON BECAUSE CLEVELAND IS IN A WORLD OF HURT!!!!

GARY GARY IF PLANT 1 RECIEVED ALL THESE HONORS THEN WHY IS IT "IDLED" AND NOT LIMA THATS RIGHT BECAUSE LIMA IS MORE EFFICENT,BETTER,AND THEY WORK!!! SO IT DOESN'T MATTER ABOUT THE AWARDS IF IT DID THEN THEY WOULDN'T BE WORKING I'M NOT TRYING TO BE A DOWNER BUT SOONER OR LATER YOU GUYS NEED TO FACE REALITY CLEVELAND IS A OLD AND STRUGGLING SITE THE COMP WANTS TO WASH IT HANDS OF US!!! AND EARLY YOUR ASKING ABOUT THE D-35 ALL WHEEL DRIVE THERE MADE IN CANADA IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME ASK PAUL STRUBA HE'S THE ONE THAT TOLD ME THAT PLUS I LOOK ON MY DAD'S AWD MKX!! CLEVELAND CAN'T STAY ON BUDGET AND THAT ALONE IS GOING TO BE OUR DOWNFALL!! I WISH THE COMPANY WOULD RECONSIDER BUT THERE NOT GOING TO. PLUS IF WHITEY AND THE BARGINING COM. PROVED TO THE COMP. THAT THEY CAN CAST MOLD 40$ CHEAPER THAN BRAZIL AND THE COMP STILL WANTS TO GO TO BRAZIL WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU? ONCE AGAIN I'M NOT TRYING TO START BULLSHIT RUMORS I'M ONLY TRYING TO STATE THE "FACTS" THE UNION HAS STATED TO ME I WISH THE UNION WOULD GROW A PAIR AND DEFEND THE HARD WORKING AND THE PEOPLE THAT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THIS SITE AND OUR FUTURE!!! AND ON THE VICE PRES. COMING TO THE FOUNDRY HE SAID CASTING IS NOT A CORE BUSINESS AND THERE NEXT FOCUS IS ON ENGINE PLANTS AND THEY FINISHED WITH CONSOLIDATING THE B&A PLANTS SO I DONT KNOW WHAT YOU OR OTHERS HEARD BUT TO ME THAT DOESN'T SOUND GOOD FOR US. HAVE A GREAT DAY!!!

AMEN 67STANG I COULDN'T SAT IT ANY BETTER!!!!!CSMJ WAS NOT AT THE MEETING ON WEDS WHEN THE VICE PRES SAID CLEVELAND IS AN AFTERTHOUGHT!! CCP GONE BY CHRISTMAS CEP#1 GONE BY FEB!!! CEP#2 ONE SHIFT BY CHRISTMAS!! WHERE DO THEY MAKE THE ALL WHEEL DRIVE D-35'S NOT IN LIMA NOT IN CEP#1 SO WHERE????? LOOK AT THE STAMP ON THE ENG OF AN ALL WHEEL DRIVE D-35 IN AN EDGE OR MKX!!!!!!!! :boring:

OH CSMJ, HAVE YOU BEEN EATING THE MOLD SAND AGAIN? IF YOU ASK THE RIGHT UNION OFFICAL THE'LL TELL YOU THAT THE MACT WILL BE COMPLETED BUT BUT IT WILL NEVER RUN THE COMPANY SAYS IT WILL FINISH IT BUT THEY WILL NEVER RUN IT AND FOR THE FOUNDRY STAYING OPEN YOU HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF WINNING THE LOTTERY!!! I DONT KNOW WHY YOU LIKE TO START RUMORS OR BETTER YET JUST TALK SHIT ALL THE TIME BUT YOUR THE REASON WHY WE CANT ALL STICK TOGETHER AND FIGHT THE COMPANY BECAUSE YOUR JUST START TALKING YOUR CRAP! AND IF YOU BELIEVE THAT THE "PEOPLE" ACROSS THE STREET ARE ALL GOOD THEN YOUR CRAZY DONT FORGET THAT AN ELECTION IS COMING UP NEXT YEAR POLITICANS ALWAYS ALWAYS TELL YOU WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR!!!!!!!!!!!! BACK ON THE MACT ASK WHITEY ABOUT IT HE'LL TELL YOU THAT THE'LL BRING IT BACK BUT THEY WANT ALL THE WORKERS GONE ITS A MOVE TO HELP SELL THE PLANT!!!! CSMJ YOU SHOULD NOT START BULLSHIT UNLESS IT COMES IN A LEAFLET MACT STARTING UP WHERES THE LEAFLET? EVERYONE KNEW ABOUT LIMA BIG SURPRIZE THERE? OUT

THANK YOU FOR THE HELP GUYS I REALLY APPRECIATE IT! AS FOR HOW MANY THERE TAKING I DONT KNOW"IMAGENERAL" THANKS AGAIN

I'M A LAID OFF WORKER FROM CLEVELAND AND TODAY I WAS INFORMED THAT CHICAGO IS TAKING PEOPLE? CAN SOMEONE LET ME KNOW ABOUT THE COST OF LIVING AND IF IT'S NOT A BAD PLACE TO LIVE AND RAISE A FAMILY? HOW FAR IS THE PLANT FROM DOWNTOWN? WHAT YOUR HOURS LOOKING LIKE?

I HAVE BEEN LAID OFF SINCE MARCH 10TH AND HAVE NOT RECEIEVED A SUB PAY CHECK YET!! MY HR PERSON TOLD ME THAT THEY LAID OFF A BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN PAYROLL IN DETROIT AND THAT THEY DO PAYROLL FIRST AND THEN IF THEY HAVE TIME THE'LL DO SUB PAY I THOUGHT THIS WAS A AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COMPANY AND UNION BET I CAN'T GET THE UNION TO DO ANYTHING EVERYTIME I ASK THEY SAY GO TO HR? IF ANYONE ELSE IS HAVING A PROBLEM PLEASE LET ME KNOW?

CSMJ, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE YOU HEAR THIS STUFF? I WAS TOLD TODAY MARCH 20TH THAT THE NEW PLANT MANG. (FROM LIMA) TOLD THE UNION THAT SHE WANTS 200 JOBS OUTSOURCED IN PLANT #2 I ALSO WAS TOLD THAT THE NEW CUPOLA IN THE FOUNDARY IS NOT GOING IN BECAUSE OF MONEY ISSUE'S AND WHY WOULD PLT#1 NEED A RETOOLING WHEN IT IS A FLEX LINE THAT ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS CHANGE THE PALLETS AND A COUPLE MACHINES! I THINK YOUR DRINKING THE KOOL-AID AGAIN! PLT#1 WAS SET UP TO RUN THE REAR WHEEL DRIVE APPS!!! SO WHY DO WE NEED TO RE-TOOL IT THEY HAVE RUN A COUPLE REAR DRIVE APPS AND FOR THE 4.4 DIESEL IT ALREADY MADE IN COLONGE GERMANY COUNT THAT ONE OUT SORRY!!!!!! THINK ABOUT THE LOGICS BEFORE YOU BELEAVE THE UNION OR COMPANY!!!!!!

I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY MORE THAN 5 UNION OFFICALS THAT PLANT 1 IS TO BE IDLED FOR 8 MONTHS BECAUSE LIMA CAN HANDLE THE ORDERS FOR THE VEHICLE'S? DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A RUMOR BUT WHEN 5 PEOPLE SAY THE SAME THING THEN YOU TEND TO BELIEVE IT THEY WHERE HOLDING MEETINGS LAST WEEK ABOUT THIS!! FOR THE PEOPLE ON LAFF-OFF THIS IS NOT GOOD!! THERE ARE 300 PEOPLE LEAVING JUNE 1ST SO I HOPE THAT TAKES CARE OF EVERYTHING!!! ONE LAST THING TO MEMBERS OF 1250 START ATTENDING OUR MEMBERSHIP MEETINGS SO THEY DONT SNEAK THERE LITTLE CHANGES AND WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO TURN IT DOWN!!!!!

WELL CSMJ I GUESS YOU WHERE DRUNK DURING THOSE MEETINGS BECASUE GAY HAMILTON SAID THERE NOT MAKING REAR WHEEL DRIVE UNTIL NEXT YEAR MAYBE? ALL PLANT 1 IS DOING IS BACKING UP LIMA!! LIMA KNEW THEY WHERE LOSING THE 3.0 SO THE 125 EXTRA IS STILL AN INCREASE!!! THINK FIRST BEFORE TYPING!!! AND I WAS ON THE LAUNCH BUILDS IN PLT 1 AND ALL THOSE ENG. WENT FOR THE EDGE? WHO'S MAKING ALL WHEEL DRIVE MOTORS 4 THE EDGE NOT US!!!! LIMA WILL SELL ANYBODY DOWN THE RIVER 2 GET MORE WORK!! ASK YOUR BUILDING CHAIRMEN WHY AREN'T WE MAKING REAR WHEEL DRIVE VER. YET?? ALL U PEOPLE ARE BLINDED BY THE COMPANY AND COMPANY REP (GAY BOY OOPS I MEAN GUY) AND HE'LL LEAD YOU 2 THE STREET JUST LIKE THE ALUM. PLANT!!!! GOOOO PLANT 1!!!!!

IF PLANT 1 ISN'T GOING DOWN THEN WHY DID THEY PROMISE US NIGHTSHIFT WOULD BE BACK BEFORE LIMA GOT AN INCREASE IN VOL WELL READ THE PAPERS LIMA GOT AN EXTRA 125,00 WHERE'S NIGHTSHIFT IN PLANT 1 ON THE STREETS EVERYBODY KNOWS FORD DOESN'T LIKE PLANTS AT HALF EMPTY WELL PLANT 1 IS HALF EMPTY! READ BETWEEN THE LINES!! STOP DRINKING THE KOOL-AID THAT OUR BULLS**T UNION IS FEEDING YOU THEY ALL HAVE 30YRS AND SUPER SEN. U THINK THEY CARE ABOUT YOU? U PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE UP THE COMPANY HAS ALL THE POWER AND THE UNION IS THERE PUPPET! HOW MANY DOWN WEEKS DOES PLANT 1 HAVE SCH. IN THE NEXT 3 MONTHS I THOUGHT SO SO GARY112 THINK BEFORE U SPEAK!! AND QUIT DRINKING THE KOOL-AID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!