The Pat you talk about, no longer exists! I for one backed him in the last election going solely on what I heard about him from OTP people. Boy was I sucked in! I've seen this guy in action (or should I say in-action). He is rarely in the office let alone the plant, will not answer phone calls and is totally out to lunch with what is really happening on the floor! Just ask any leader or one of the good union rep's what they think about good ole company boy, glad hander, lip service, Pat! That guy will be gone next time for sure and the sooner the better!