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13 hours ago, akirby said:
Nor does it necessarily address the root cause.
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On 5/2/2024 at 9:52 PM, sullynd said:
I’ve only ever bought Fords, but if in the market for a full size SUV I’d have a hard time not going with one of the GM triplets, probably the Denali.
Same here, although I would only consider the Denali. I’m hoping the Expy and Nav will be home runs though. It’s quite ridiculous it is taking so long for their release. -
The Bronco is continuing its downward slide. I wonder if they have figured out they have a pricing problem yet.
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1 hour ago, DeluxeStang said:
It's an expensive, thirsty suv being sold at a time when the economy is in the toilet and gas is expensive.
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2 hours ago, rmc523 said:
Probably expensive with no deals available.
And it hasn’t been updated in a while.
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On 4/29/2024 at 7:14 AM, Gurgeh said:
Also massive Chinese government subsidies throughout the EV ecosystem -- from mining, to refining, to processing, to components, to production. It isn't just batteries that China now dominates. It is pretty much everything. It will be difficult for the U.S. to duplicate that due to our own policy choices. For instance, because of environmentalist opposition -- the same folks that want us to go 100% electric ASAP -- it is almost impossible to open any new mining operation in the United States. The government just canceled a new copper mine (which would have given the country a whopping two) in Alaska that was already permitted due to enviro opposition. The U.S. has extensive rare earth resources (along with significant deposits of other relevant metals and minerals), but we just can't get to them.
I find most environmentalist or hypocrites. They’re environmentalist as long as it doesn’t occur in their backyard. They don’t care if it’s done somewhere else.
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I really don’t understand the purpose of rebranding the TRX. Sure it lost the hemi but the Raptor has had 450hp as the base amount for quite some time so why did it matter if the TRX had a motor with around that amount. Now they have to remarket the truck and I personally don’t think RHO rolls off the tongue like TRX did.
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Does black count since all of our vehicles are black😉
My vote would be leadfoot gray. If I didn’t get black I would get leadfoot.
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On 4/27/2024 at 6:07 AM, silvrsvt said:
Because of profit margins with smaller electronic devices, where most batteries have been used.
I'm sure there are companies in the USA now working on different types of battery cells due to the demand.
I hope you’re right. Perhaps we just steal their tech like they do to us. -
Does anyone know why there are no major American battery manufacturers? Perhaps I’m just not aware of them.
I absolutely despise doing business with China, our number one national security threat.
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8 hours ago, twintornados said:
You would be wrong. I am a capitalist but, business needs the balance of a union to pay those that put the money in the coffers and Union needs to ensure that the products they produce for the business are desired and bought. It is a tightrope that both sides of a negotiations table need to walk so that both entities are successful.
Since you are the moderator, I will end the conversation here.
I am not a member of a union and I think my wage is pretty good. My position is you would not be able to get good employees if you weren’t paying a sufficient wage to entice them to work there. You may get poor quality workers to work for less, but your product will suffer because of it, as would sales. As such, your wage has to be commensurate with a quality workforce. The old saying, you get what you pay for, applies to many things.
I would also argue the high-quality union workers would likely be making more money if they weren’t limited by the contract, and those problem workers would not be making the same amount of money as the good workers or they would be gone from the company.
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Well, if it is simply that models aren’t selling and not other mitigating factors, I would argue that the terribly slow update/rollout of existing models isn’t helpful.
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I previously provided examples of the different presentations of the coast to coast screens in the Chinese Explorer and Aviator where they had notable differentiation. How do we know the CtoC screen won’t only be available in the highest trim levels of the Expedition? I have no issue with that since the price of a Platinum is in Navigator territory. Although I would prefer the Navigator have a completely unique interior, at the same time I would also like the Expedition to have a superb interior as well.
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14 hours ago, rmc523 said:
It looks nice, though the wheels remind me of Camaro.
But at the end of the day, as I said when they teased it, it's just a sticker package.....there was no need to tease it, IMO.
Although I think the wheels look good, I thought the same. It’s hard to ignore the touch of Camaro that is in this latest generation. The car still looks good though. -
It is pretty ridiculous that the latest generation of Ranger doesn’t have ventilated seats in this day and age in the higher end trims. It’s one of a few misses on this new model as far as I’m concerned.
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7 hours ago, rmc523 said:
Of course. Believe it or not, it's fun for me lol. Yeah, I gave up on monthly with other brands, and only assemble the quarterly comparison of the brands for trucks. It'd be too much work otherwise.
The production figures above are from Ford's press release though (for some reason Dec 2023 didn't have them, that's why I used Nov).
I echo Andrew’s thanks in putting the numbers together.
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10 minutes ago, rmc523 said:
Bronco sales are down 25.79% for the year through March.
Obviously, that’s a pretty substantial number, but I would like to see a few more months before I passed final judgment. Clearly something is up though.
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6 hours ago, silvrsvt said:
In all seriousness, I really wonder what Ford's plans are long term with the Bronco pricing-they seem to have based the price increases on the ADMs that where on them the first few years and has dropped since production has increased. Are they still planning on a price hike when a refresh comes about? Will demand keep softening that incentives are the norm, like they are on the Wrangler (a friend of mine got a 4XE for almost 20K off after rebates/incentives a couple months ago) currently?
I think Ford has jumped the shark on Bronco pricing. Broncos are now being stocked on the lots around me, whereas this was never the case before, and you can buy them with a hefty discount. I’ve even seen bronco Raptors being advertised for $5000 off.
They affectively drove me out of the market based on value I see in the vehicle.
I think the next few months worth of sales will give us an idea on the impact of Bronco pricing.
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9 hours ago, Andrew L said:
When I was helping my friend shop for a new car the Lincoln dealer near me only had 3 new Nautilus on the lot the rest was mostly Corsair and Aviator. Only a few Navigators too. Granted this is a very small stand alone Lincoln dealership. I haven't been by the larger one that's part of Autonation yet. When the Aviator was released they got a decent amount in, I remember they had the whole front area lined up with them.
I’m curious what Autonation has. The Lincoln dealerships around my area have very little inventory of any model for that matter. I am unclear how to interpret that. Either they’re selling what they’re getting in, or they are having difficult getting inventory, or they aren’t ordering much for inventory. I just don’t know. -
5 minutes ago, DeluxeStang said:
The lack of redesigns and refreshes, but also the fact that they're making very little effort to evolve their design language. It's practically guaranteed when the model 2 is revealed, if it's revealed, that it looks like a model 3, which looked like a model s. So their cars are patterned after designs that are more than a decade old.
The model S is still a good looking car, but as you have stated the design language if 10 years old, so what is the incentive to upgrade to a new car if you already have one. It’s not a surprise the S sales are low now. Lack of refreshes on virtually any car will spell doom for sales. -
1 hour ago, escapeman said:
Vacationing in Arizona this week I saw my first one as I was driving directly behind it goi g into a mall parking lot.
I had no clue what it was till it turned and I saw its profile. That “Thing” is worse than the Aztec ever was. Made the Aztec look like a beauty queen. I waited for it to park and the driver leave to take a closer look.
How was it ever allowed to happen. ?
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1 hour ago, ice-capades said:
Most customers have no idea where vehicles are made. Unless they look at a Window Sticker closely, or the Dealer tells them, they'd have no idea. Enthusiasts of course would find out.
44 minutes ago, akirby said:
Based on initial feedback from Lincoln Nautilus Facebook groups and forums, your assessment is correct. Most don’t know, most of the ones who know don’t care and only a few who were actually planning to buy one are backing out.
Perhaps some don’t know or don’t care, but we will never actually know the impact of having the vehicle manufactured in China, until a survey of some kind is done.
Nevertheless, I haven’t seen one new Nautilus at any dealers around me or on the road, so having no vehicles to look at or buy off a lot, isn’t helping their sales. Manufacturing in China leads to long lead times and does have an effect on availability.
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I feel like Ford is screwing themselves on the Nautilus. It seems the Nautilus has been well received, and manufacturing it in China appears to be impacting its availability. Not to mention lost sales to those people that would otherwise buy one, but won’t because it’s made in China.
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I saw one on the road for the first time a few days ago. It looked good.