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31 and ashamed that I didn't get 50

Thanks for your completely worthless response. I really would like to have you in the same fox-hole as me, yeah I got your back. OH, LEST I FORGET, FUCK YOU!!!!! I do wish you a Merry Christmas tho..... but unlike you, I mean it.

I am in the same situation, insurance canceled etc.............. Those who are still at the plant I would appreciate you keeping us updated on this screw up. Thanks!!!!! I can't say on this forum what I truly would like to say about "HER".

pant load, Your father is indeed a wise man.

Excellent point!!!!

Every other company does it so why not Ford? Very weak Len-A. Let me show you the bridge that everyone is jumping off. I have read some of your posts and you can do better than that, I hope.

Thank you, Mr. Wilson, for exposing the hypocrisy of the FORD leadership or should I say the lack there of. I am a firm believer in leading by example and this should be an eye opener for all employees and stock holders. If you follow the present leadership you can look for more wasteful expenditures. This kinda "stuff" runs down hill too. You can't talk out of the side of your mouth and expect those who are following you not to act as you do. As a soon to be ex-employee what happens to FMC is no concern of mine. Those who remain should seriously consider who they hook their wagon to. The present leadership lives in a bubble to far removed from the average consumer. I have said it before and repeat it again here. They are to timid to lead, to slow to follow and to stupid to get out of the way. Until FMC gets rid of the bean counters and replaces them with some "car guys", I am suspect of their every move. The money spent, on weekly trips to wherever, would be far better spent on hiring the best design and engineering people available. In charge of this group would be someone with some vision and an eye for what is appealing. The products FMC has been putting out are so mundane and watered down, in an attempt, to try to appeal to everyone. When you try to please everyone you become so diluted that that you end up pleasing no one. While Mr. Fields galivants around the country, I am still waiting for a sub-pay check due to me October 14th. This is less than $500 take home. Now, I am not about to lose anything because of this, but it is becoming a matter of principle. Sorry for the off topic rant. I'm done now. Thanks Mr. Wilson for something that needed to be brought to the publics attention.

http://www.uaw.org/dclink/dcstory.cfm?DcId=145 another reason I don't want my union involved in poliitics. I will never join another union as long as they keep backing this FUCKING BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! last post here on this forum, I know you will miss me

This is not good, just plain downright UGLY..... rectangle with a square on top like many of the 80 model fords..... this will not appeal to the masses or even close to the 50% he's hoping for. Their still needs to be changes in their design division. Brand identity, using a like grille on every vehicle, is a big part of the problem. It gets old real fast. If they were serious about designing vehicles that appeal to 50% and disgust 50% this idea needs to be scrapped ASAP!! Uniqueness, in all their offerings, is what will turn this company around, THEY STILL DON'T GET IT!!!!

Then they wonder why Bush won't talk to them

They get 50% pre tax an another 50% after taxes. :bandance:

good-bye-stl-hello-kc As far as the gas prices, any economist will say it is supply and demand, that's the capitalistic way. Is there some shakey stuff going on, you bet. The so called leaders of the democratic party are knee deep in this also. Take a look a Ted Kennedy's involvement in the oil and gas industry. Another two way sreet. Level playing field, I am talking about the transplants, here in America, who do play by the same rules and their vehicles made here in North America. I thought that Ford was doing okay in the foreign maket. It's the North American division that has problems. More later... thanks for the rational debate guys.... time for the grille.

Len-A, I do like coffee. Seems you have had some run ins with some assholes that were republican, so you say, I have no reason to doubt you. I surely don't mean to imply that every republican is a saint. These business people were just that, assholes. If you wish to say that they were republican assholes, fine. You also ran into some jealousy and I guess they were republican too. If you for one minute think there are not many many supporters of the democratic party that don't feel the same way you need to stay away from all that caffeine, it's affecting your judgement. I guess now it's Bush's job to bail out the mismanaged American auto industry. I just can't say it enough, the reason for the downfall is mismanagement. Read that as many times as it takes for you to understand. It's not republicans nor democrats, IT THE STUPID DECISIONS MADE BY THOSE IN CHARGE, IN DETROIT!!!! I don't want my tax dollars being spent on a failed business unless it would effect our national security. If Ford and GM can't fight their own way out, that's the way it goes. Gas prices are up and Toyota is still eating away at market share. Toyota owners pay the same amount for gas as the owners american vehicles do. Read that as many times as it takes too.

good-bye-stl-hello-kc, I am not trying to tell anyone how to vote. I did tell everyone how I will vote. No political arguments will be won on this board. Those who choose their party do so for their own reasons. I am just trying to point out that the democratic party is not the UAW save all. I have asked, twice, what this party has done for the UAW in the past twenty years and have received non-response. Social issues are used by both sides, not just one party or there would not be such a storm over them. That is a two way street my friend. Again, my only option at this time is the republican party because the are the party that holds a more conservative view of the world. There would be no better time for a third and fourth party to emerge than now. With the country split about 50/50 they could stand a real chance at the polls. I see no one stepping up to the plate. Are not the transplants playing by the same rules as us? Are they eating up our market share? Yep, so your theory about the republican party will not hold true. It is not the democratic or republican parties fault for the decline of the american auto industry. It is bad management. PERIOD! What's with the CAPS, you yelling at me

I'm not to partial to kool-aid, but will mix a drink of my own. Neither party cares about the UAW and it's workers. I do not agree with everything the republican party says or does. I am a conservative and unfortunately the republican party is my only option at this time. So, I vote for the republican party until there is a viable alternative. Is the republican party all sugar and spice and everything nice, not a chance, the democratic party is not either. You have judged the entire republican party from an incident that has left a bad taste in your mouth, so be it, your choice. If you feel the democrats have the UAW's interest at heart, I beg to differ. As I stated in an earlier post they could care less. They want the UAW's campaign money and the memberships votes. I ask you what has the democratic party done for the UAW in the past twenty years, nothing. This is not 1940, 50, 60, 70 or the 1980's. Things have changed and the union has not changed with the times. You blindly vote for the democrats because the UAW says so. Who's drinking the kool-aid?