akirby
-
Posts
43,469 -
Joined
-
Last visited
-
Days Won
1,449
Content Type
Profiles
Forums
Gallery
Downloads
Store
Posts posted by akirby
-
-
5 hours ago, Bev said:
I have a 2020 Aviator, hate the seats! Tried 2 different cushions to help and still it sucks! Supposed to go on a road trip this June. Literally my shoulders and upper back doesn't even touch the seat and has NO support, my husband is bigger and it wraps around his back/shoulders, with me it doesn't even touch and really hate to find out what would happen in a accident. I've played with all the adjustments and still NOTHING!
How is that possible? Can’t you just tilt the seat back forward? -
6 hours ago, jpd80 said:
The whole point to Ford setting up a skunkworks to develop small BEVs was to design and develop them
with the kind of efficiency seen at Tesla and at a faster time line than possible as a Ford project.
I could be wrong but I still think this is more about platform efficiency in batteries, aerodynamics, manufacturing - squeezing out as much cost as possible and applying this to all EVs to some degree. I don’t see this team just developing a few new EVs in a vacuum.-
2
-
-
1 hour ago, ice-capades said:
Based on Ford's history, my concern is that this so-called "skunkworks" is going to be another program that gets bogged down with little to show for it, and at least for now is nothing more than a smoke and mirrors scenario. We'll probably never know, but I'm hoping that really is a viable and worthy program and not something that got sold under the "Ford has a better idea!" theme. I'll reserve judgement until we know more or see some actual results that are productive overall.
I’m more hopeful based on the people involved (outsiders) and the fact it’s a clean slate environment.
The dangers are Ford cutting corners to save money before things are fully implemented or if the cost assumptions end up being wrong.
-
1
-
-
10 hours ago, silvrsvt said:
Because the data being collected actually shows when the vehicle is actually charged
https://green-driving.jrc.ec.europa.eu/JRCmatics_Monitoring_Fuel_Consumption_from_OBD
None of the reports’ conclusions used that data. They only looked at fuel economy and the report even admitted that the utility factor (amount of time a plug in is driven on battery) estimate in the WLTP is way off. But that can also be explained by people driving further each day than expected, not just by people not plugging in.
I’m not saying they’re plugging in or not plugging in. I’m saying the data used by the report does not support the conclusion that PHEVs are not being plugged in because it doesn’t take into account how many miles are driven each day. If they have actual electric usage data then they should be using it not fuel economy. They’re drawing a conclusion that isn’t supported by the data they have because their data is incomplete as it doesn’t take into account how many miles are being driven on a particular day.
-
I think skunkworks was more about finding ways to cut costs in all aspects from batteries to electronics to the assembly process. Those can be applied to everything going forward. I don’t see it making anything else redundant.
-
2
-
-
39 minutes ago, tbone said:
Which is why it would be great if they would bring the Everest here to compete with the 4Runner. Seems like it would be a no brainer since it’s a platform mate and there’s room in the lineup for it.
Where would they build it? -
That changes nothing I said. Did you look at the two examples I gave for fuel consumption of two vehicles that were plugged in every night?
-
2 hours ago, joseodiaga4 said:
Wasn't CD6 a complicated/conflictive platform that has generated many problems in the Explorer an Aviator? 🤔
Nothing wrong with the platform, just the factory.-
3
-
-
4 hours ago, edselford said:
All future vehicle platforms need to be able to have both hybrid and EV versions without reinventing the wheel each time!
edselford
There are no future ICE platforms. C2 and CD6 is here and perfectly capable. -
The sad part is there are buyers who won’t pay MSRP but would gladly pay double MSRP with a 20% discount.
-
3
-
-
It’s definitely bad, Get a second opinion but you might just have to replace it yourself.
-
19 minutes ago, joseodiaga4 said:
but are you telling me that Ford can’t find a way to make it profitable and others do?
No. I’m saying they have better things to spend time and money on. At any given time they probably have a dozen or more projects with a positive ROI that could be done but they’re all below the line which means resources were given to higher priority projects. -
16 minutes ago, joseodiaga4 said:
Yeah but why?
it makes no sense,most of the luxury brands have a vehicle in that segment
Every vehicle/project has a cost and an expected ROI (return on investment) based on volume and pricing and production costs and that has to be compared with other projects competing for the same resources. It’s never just a sales question. -
16 minutes ago, Gurgeh said:
Hard to keep track these days of all the Lincoln things that have been canned.
Some even before they were built.-
1
-
-
1 hour ago, silvrsvt said:
But how would that affect the benefits they've gotten from the Canadian government?
The battery plant would supply hybrid batteries. Whether that technically violates the agreement or not I don’t know. That’s one of the big issues they have to work out if they’re considering that option. -
1 hour ago, silvrsvt said:
So the study already addressed that part...WLTP is just a baseline test but the expected difference in the "real world" was quite a bit more then it should be. The difference in ICE was 21% vs an expected 20%
No it doesn’t address my scenario at all. Those studies only look at WLTP predictions vs measured overall fuel economy. It does not take into account how many miles are being driven on a daily basis (nor can it because that data is unavailable). They’re only measuring total miles driven vs fuel used.I just gave you 2 examples of hugely different mpg for 2 different vehicles that both get fully charged every night. Without knowing the background the study would conclude the vehicle only getting 42 mpg was not being plugged in. But that is 100% false.
You cannot use observed mpg to determine if a vehicle is being plugged in without knowing how many miles are driven each day. Period. It’s simple math.
-
3
-
-
8 minutes ago, mackinaw said:
And the fact the contracts the parts suppliers have signed all expire about now. I'm sure they've already signed new contracts with other OEM's to supply parts.
This. Stampings are easy to replace. -
I think they’ll keep Lightning in some capacity for Ford Pro customers.
-
And let’s reiterate the flaw in simply measuring PHEV fuel consumption to conclude that they aren’t being plugged in.
Let’s say my escape PHEV can go 30 miles on battery and gets 35 mpg afterwards and let’s say I charge fully every night.
If I only drive 40 miles per day I use about 1/3 of a gallon. Thats 120 mpg.
If I drive 210 miles per day I use about 5 gallons or 42 mpg.
Just looking at fuel economy one might conclude that one is being plugged in and the other isn’t and that’s completely untrue.
Another example of lies, damn lies and statistics.
-
4
-
-
1 hour ago, Rick73 said:
For what it’s worth, I’d take the time to see what this data actually represents before taking time to debate pros and cons of whether PHEV owners plug in or not.
We know exactly what it means and that was already stated. It means the WLTP estimated fuel economy is not an accurate prediction of real world fuel consumption based on samples. And the PHEV estimates are wildly optimistic. -
I don’t see a problem on the 24V charger side - you’d be feeding it 24V DC. But I don’t know if that would work while they’re still connected to the vehicle as individual 12V devices.
-
1 minute ago, Oac98 said:
I like your assessment and do I ever hope you’re right. I know you read their statement and it seems that they still plan to go all EV at Oakville if it even happens at this point. Edge Nautilus Hybrids are what should’ve been placed there. How many more times are these guys gonna switch up plans? This is ridiculous now. Makes me wonder if building Blueovalcity was even required. Unless something changes it seems like they will have overcapacity problems.
Working in corporate America for almost 38 years you learn to read between the lines and understand how things work. IF they’re working on a plan to bring Edge and Nautilus back it’s not far enough along to announce yet. And they may truly have not yet decided what to do. Announcing this delay essentially buys them time to figure out what they want to do. I’m sure a lot of the remodeling is needed regardless of what they decide to do so that will continue to some point.-
1
-
-
12 hours ago, tbone said:
i understand your perspective, but for me, I just don’t see it. I would not cross shop these vehicles, because a vehicle with removable parts has considerations that a vehicle without does not.
But not everybody cares about removable tops or doors and they just like the styling. I once cross shopped a Lincoln LS sedan, Mustang GT convertible and a Mercury Cougar coupe. I just wanted something fun to drive. Ended up with the LS V8. -
Is it just me or does that shot remind anyone else of escape?
FORD MUSTANG V8 WILL PAY DIVIDENDS NOW THAT RIVALS ARE GONE
in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Posted
Legal basis? None whatsoever. But that doesn’t stop greedy, lazy people from trying and sometimes stupid juries agree with them, like the guy who was driving an Explorer drunk without seatbelts, drove off the road and flipped it and was thrown out and killed. Lawsuit said if Ford had installed laminated side glass he wouldn’t have been thrown out - and they won millions of dollars.
You can’t make up stuff like that.