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It's sharing plant capacity with the increasingly popular Ranger... even if the actual reservation to order conversions are less than production capacity, they will easily make that up with dealer stock orders. They could also get more order conversions than they can produce with carryovers to the 2022 MY... either way it should be a huge success by anyones standards! When the next gen Ranger arives, they may even be needing another plant!
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^^^^ When did they start offering a yellow top option on the Wranglers... looks nice!
Wonder if that's the accessory winch mount bumper... on the Bronco!
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8 hours ago, Wheeling said:
Probably not very useful and potentially problematic, better without.
The monochromatic option is quite attractive, if the price is right. The new convenience package is not attractive any more, the only thing worth to have in the package is HUD.
Ont eh element plus package, the" Auto Air Refresh and Auto Heated/Ventilated Driver and Passengers Seats" was added with "Auto" don't know what that means.
Auto air refresh will sample air quality and circulate air through a new two stage combi filter (with carbon layer) when required. Auto heated/ventilated seats will activate them along with the auto HVAC settings, instead of having to turn them on/off manually every time. You can still override them manually.
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2 hours ago, akirby said:
It was problematic when first introduced on the Edge and MKX. I’m guessing they’re still seeing problems with it and just deleted it.
I thought that too, but it looks like it will be standard on the higher end 2021 F150s... starting with King Ranch.
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2 hours ago, Froggie said:
CoolScoop, my order was for a 2020, I read on Ford Authority that for a 2021 the order was beginning of June. But I'm beginning to be a little concern because I have no answer from my dealer , he told me that is boss was not showing up and he had not access to the information. I hope this is not a big scam, I gave 2500$ at the time of the order. I am well aware that there is no incentive for the Aviator and that great proposition maybe hide a loophole. I hope not !
Froggie, did they give you a copy of your order and receipt for your deposit? If you have an order number you could try calling the Lincoln Concierge service and ask them for the status of your order. It's easier for them to find an order with a VIN, but I believe they can also look it up by dealer name and order number. Hope it's legit and you get your GT!
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1 hour ago, fuzzymoomoo said:
What’s ridiculous is all of a sudden a drug that has been used safely for 60 years is going to kill you.I've been to tropical areas like Panama for work over the years and was perscribed it every time for malaria. People of all ages take it regularly down there so I never understood how all of a sudden it wasn't safe any more...
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On 7/26/2020 at 7:35 PM, Froggie said:
Thank you CoolScoop for the information. I really appreciate. My dealer told me that my order was in the queue (June 18th).
Froggie, I'm pretty sure the last day to order a 2020 Aviator was April 30th. If you ordered on May 20th are you getting a 2021 model?
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My dealer was great and honored xplan even though allocation is extremely limited, but some other dealers in the area weren't allowing xplan. Even after an eight month wait I was surprised when they said mine was still their first GT to come in. Their first stock GT was a Black Label that arrived around a month after mine. They sold that one and now have a standard GT in stock.
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Personally, I would never let my car idle that long for any reason... but especially if unattended or with kids/pets inside.
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8 hours ago, rmc523 said:
Uhhh?
^^^Yep, just another failed attempt at sarcasm. Bronco looks lighyears ahead of Wrangler... at least until Jeep drops a Hemi in it, lol!
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4 hours ago, kyle said:
Yes it looks better-but I think that panel gap in the top left by the push button start is still there? I've sat in several and it is painfully obvious and seems to be really that one spot-why the hell couldn't they of at least had it on the other side so you wouldn't see it all the time!!
Please don't call them panel gaps... they're symmetrical contrasting stylistic design elements, lol.
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15 hours ago, Froggie said:
I was surprised to receive a proposition with the Lincoln 1000$ incentive plus 5000$ from a dealer.
That's a really good deal. In my region the Grand Touring PHEV has always been excluded from all incentives except 0% for 36 months. Plus some dealers are also excluding xplan.
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1 hour ago, FordBuyer said:
Barrett Jackson will probably auction the first one off the line for $500,000+. And Clay Ford Jr. will get the 2nd one. And Mecum will auction off the 3rd one
And Jay Leno will get the 4th one...
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16 hours ago, jpd80 said:
Anyone know what the reservation limits are for the other trims?
Concur with fuzzymoomoo, I would guess that after subtracting the 7000 First Eddition models from the total production capability, the number of other trims produced the first model year would just be based on whatever trims have reservations that convert to actual orders.
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10 hours ago, probowler said:
Damn... An Aviator? That thing must be 1st class through and through. How is she? Don't be modest.
The GT is our first step up from Ford to Lincoln, so saying it's the most luxurious car we've ever owned doesn't do it justice. But we've checked out the other high end brands at car shows and have ridden in quite a few that friends have... and IMO the Aviator is hands down the best of the best in it's class. It looks far better from any angle outside and it's pure relaxed luxury inside with amazing looks, textures and functions... and ours isn't even a Black Label. The combination of Blue Diamond exterior, Medium Slate interior, and GT wheels is just stunning. We haven't been on a long trip in it yet but for our daily driving it gets over 80 mpg when starting out with a full charge, plus it has more punch than my 03 Mach 1. Now back to the Bronco... had I known how awesome it would be before ordering the Aviator it would have been a battle of the spouses on which one to get... so I still wouldn't be getting a Bronco, lol. Sure would be nice to have both!!!
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On 7/21/2020 at 4:36 PM, bzcat said:
So now there is a second first edition ?
I'm waiting for a second edition cause I can't afford any edition right now after buying the Aviator?... never thought I would be second guessing that decision so soon!
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The whole process is quite a bit longer than that... it really starts after your dealer has allocation and Lincoln (Ford) pulls and schedules your order. That's when a VIN is assigned. Then there are periods of time between scheduled, submitted to plant, produced, released, shipped, etc. Plus how long its in transit varies depending on where you live and how long it gets held at various rail yards/ramps along the way. Read this post for a detailed explanation of the whole process:
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Got mine in a blistering eight months after ordering it, lol. But I ordered in July and the GTs didn't go into production until December, plus I believe all of the first runs like mine went through extra QC checks. The only GT my dealer still has was ordered on Feb 22, produced on June 19, and delivered on June 30. That timeframe includes the virus shutdown, so one ordered in May should be even quicker. But how quickly you get a VIN that actually starts the process depends on what allocation your dealer has for GTs. My retail order still came in a month before my dealers first stock order, even though they placed their order two months before mine. I believe they've only received two or three stock orders so far, so allocation must be pretty tight.
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Very rarely is the term Game Changer given to someting that really and truely changes its game. But IMO the new Bronco models look like they're not only going to permantly change the game, but completely rewrite the rules!!! The Jeep boys will be losing sleep tonight trying to figure out how to shove TWO Hemi's in the Wrangler now, lol.
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https://www.ford.com/suvs/bronco/2021/
Ford page is active with model comparison and starting prices... only 3,500 fist editions.
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Jeep Execs to 3 Lead Engineers: The Bronco is starting to look like a real threat to Wrangler. What can we do short term to stay on top?
Engineer 1: I got nothing.
Engineer 2: Let's give it an IFS to address the ongoing high speed death wobble concerns once and for all.
Engineer 3: Lets just drop in a big Hemi to make it super fast!
Execs to Engineer 3: Brilliant idea, a Hemi and new domed hood should do the trick!
Engineer 2: Rolls eyes...
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Bronco and Bronco Sport World Premier July 13th!!
in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Posted · Edited by CoolScoop
Ford is in a unique position right now... if they put the same synergy into the next gen Ranger that they did in the Bronco, they have the opportunity to establish it as another long term market leader along with Bronco and F-Series. Ranger is already doing well as a quick transplant, but it could handily blow the competition away if it incorporates many of the features and inovations from the Bronco and new F150. If they play their cards right, I can see the need for an additional plant or dedicated Bronco and Ranger plants in the future.