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  1. I noticed they also added rain sensing wipers to the Driver's Vision package along with BLIS, rearview camera, etc. http://www.edmunds.com/mercury/milanhybrid/2011/review.html I bought a 2010 Milan Hybrid, which I'm really happy with. I wish mine had the HD Radio & rain sensing wipers, but the only thing I really wish it had was Sync Applink. I wanted to experiment with that with writing iPhone apps. I wish it was as easy as a software update & they could install it in mine, but oh well. - Adam
  2. Hello all, I noticed Mercury is releasing a 2011 Milan Hybrid. I have questions. 1) Why? I thought Ford was ending Mercury. 2) What are the differences between the 2010 & 2011 models? Are 2011s just rebranded 2010s they haven't sold yet, or are there actual differences? It looks from the Website like there are different colors available. 3) Will Sync Applink be in the Milan 2011 for voice-controlled smartphone apps, or is that only on 2011 Fiesta & 2012 everything else? - Adam
  3. What is that? I have no obvious problem with the trunk. It's really hard to find anything wrong with this car. I'm at 12K miles now.

  4. EGFP

    Hi. I have a 2011 MMH. Have you noticed the trunk alignment issue? Did you do anything about? Thanks.

  5. I just did my 10K service. My Mercury Milan Hybrid is averaging 37.2MPG. I am amazed by this car. Overall, it's fantastic.
  6. I now have 5000 miles on my Mercury Milan Hybrid. I've never reset the long term mileage counter. My long term average is 36MPG. I expected it was going to average out somewhere around 36-37MPG, so I'm very happy. This car basically doubles the fuel efficiency of my previous car. Half my gas cost will make a big deal when (not if) gas goes back over $4/gallon. I occasionally get some really good numbers, though. Driving back home to San Francisco, I often see MPGs in the 40s, and sometimes in the 50s. On certain short trips, I've seen MPGs in the 60s. And it's always fun when conditions are just right and I'm driving ~3mi from my parents' house to the Chevron gas station. The drive is mostly down hill, sometimes steep, sometimes flat, sometimes slightly downward sloping. The car is in EV mode almost the entire time. I get out of the car & it says 99.9MPG. I always get a kick out of that when I see it. If only it could do that all the time. Overall I'm amazed by this car. My sister borrowed it when she was in town to drive to see her friend. The navigation got her where she needed to go, and back home safely. She loved the hybrid system, and she was getting MPGs in the 40s on her trips. She thoroughly enjoyed driving it. - Adam
  7. 1. Navigation is very expensive. 2. The screen is very large, a pleasure to look at. The system shows an illustration of freeway junctions or exits as you approach them. 3. The rear view camera on the screen is very useful. I find visibility out the rear window of my Milan Hybrid to be poor; the backup camera solves that problem. 4. A PND is easy to steal; the nav system is not. I don't have to remember to put the nav system away after a drive. 5. Voice directions are clear. I like how the system chimes & drops radio / satellite / iPod volume as it's speaking, then turns music volume back up. 6. Not nearly enough POIs, but I have an iPhone. I can find the address with my iPhone, then drive there with the car's nav system. 7. Screen locks you out of inputting certain info if you're driving >5 MPH. A safety feature that can get very annoying, very fast. You generally need to pull over to enter a destination, unless you've previously saved the address or it's a POI. As far as I know, Sync is not affected at all in a non-nav car. You can say the same voice commands. However, Sync with nav is neat in that the screen shows you some things you can say. If you're going to only own the car for a couple years, it's probably impossible to justify the additional expense. I will probably own my Milan Hybrid for 10 years; the cost over that period of time is easy to justify. - Adam
  8. Hi all, My Mercury Milan Hybrid now has a little over 5K miles on it. So far, so great! I'm getting around 36MPG so far. Everyone loves it. I bought the Premium Maintenance plan, that offers service on the car every 10K miles. The manual states that the oil should be changed every 7500 miles, and one of my friends who's a total car guy says he thinks the oil on the hybrid should be changed every 5K miles. I normally change oil on a gas engine car every 3K miles; I could see 5000-7500 since the engine isn't running as often. My question is, what do you think? What is the right number of miles to drive before changing the oil? - Adam
  9. I ordered my Mercury Milan Hybrid at the beginning of September. I was told originally it would take 6-8 weeks for delivery, but it actually took nearly 3 months to arrive. But it was worth the wait! Here are some first day thoughts for you. Getting A Good Deal; X-Plan Pricing No dealer who has a Fusion or Milan Hybrid on the lot wants to make a deal. If you have no patience, you're gonna pay through the nose, it's as simple as that. Fusions are more plentiful; Milan Hybrids are rare & you will REALLY pay through the nose if they have one, or you will wait ~3 months for it to arrive, no matter what the dealer tells you. This is new technology, and it takes awhile to build one. If you like negotiating (I don't), you should read the Car Buying Tips Website, it has great ideas on getting a good deal. I followed the tips at this Website, submitting my request for a new car to every dealership within a 100 mile radius of me. http://www.carbuyingtips.com/ If you don't mind waiting for your new car to arrive, most dealerships will accept X-Plan pricing, Ford's Friends & Family pricing. Under the X-Plan, there is no price negotiation. You are shown your price up front, usually a few hundred dollars over dealer invoice, and nicely under MSRP (in my case, ~$2000). Ford also pays dealers some money to accept the X-Plan deal. On a slow selling vehicle you may be able to negotiate a better price than X-Plan, but on a hot vehicle like Fusion Hybrid/Milan Hybrid, X-Plan is the best deal in town. The dealers don't want to take X-Plan on a hot car on the lot, so you'll have to place a custom order for your car to get the best price. It's funny how that works out - you get the precise car you want, the options, colors, materials, for the best price, if you're willing to wait for it to show up. Your car hasn't been beaten on dealer demos, it's brand new right off the train & truck from the manufacturing facility! Mine had *14* miles on it, brand new. If you know someone who works for Ford, even better - there are even better discount plans available to Ford employees. But the X-Plan is really a sweet deal. http://www.ford.com/purchasing-options/veh...rchase-programs You can get an X-Plan PIN from Ford Shareholder Services if you are a Ford stockholder. I own Ford stock, so this is how I got my X-Plan PIN. You need to own 100 shares of stock. You're supposed to own it for 6 months, but Ford doesn't really have any way to know how long you've owned the stock. So you could buy 100 shares, print a copy of your brokerage statement showing you own it, then sell the stock. If you're a Ford stockholder, simply submit an email request to get an X-Plan PIN here: http://www.ford.com/about-ford/investor-re...ns/contact-ford The Blue Oval Forums Website also tries to link up Ford employees who have PINs with forum users who want a PIN. The Blue Oval Forums Website has all kinds of useful info about Ford products; I learned a lot reading this Website. See here: http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums/index.php?showforum=45 The Dealership I did not like the salesman at the original dealership I went to (I won't mention who). He acted like I was doing him a favor for being there, and wanted to charge dramatically (thousands) over MSRP(!) for a Milan Hybrid he had on the way. I'd call him, he wouldn't call me back. He wanted to charge a LOT for extended warranties & other goodies. I felt like I was working for him, not the other way around. He wanted to be the one with the power in our relationship. I don't like feeling like Al Bundy negotiating a car deal, getting charged $50 for a $0.25 piece of plastic. I don't like feeling like a sucker. So I left. The first thing to know is, if your spidey sense is telling you that someone is trying to take advantage of you, LEAVE. There are many, many, MANY car dealerships who want your business. The salesman is trying to make you think what he has is special, nobody else has it; this is the way they dazzle you to waste money. This is a mass market product, so think of it that way! The Car Buying Tips Website listed above first suggests, read everything about the car you're buying, the options & warranties you want, and get a list of manufacturer part #s you want to buy so you know exactly what you're asking for. All of this is available online, Google is your friend. Then, submit your info to multiple Websites that work with multiple local dealerships, asking ALL of them to bid on your car SIMULTANEOUSLY. This removes the feeling that you're buying something special. Now, you're buying a product, like a DVD player. When multiple dealerships are competing for your business, the tables are turned: you're in control now, not the car dealer. Now you can compare offers, and learn things you didn't know. In my case, I submitted my request to every dealership within a 100mi radius of my home. I would have never known about the great dealer who ended up getting my business, nor would I have learned about some special services from Ford that I ended up buying. If you're in Northern California, and you don't like playing games with car dealers, I can strongly suggest you talk to Russell Gussman @ Ukiah Ford, 707-468-0091. He's the finance & Internet manager at the dealership. This was the most pleasant car buying experience I've ever had. As Russell says, his dealership is in the boondocks (more like the wilderness), so the only thing he has to make you travel that far & buy a car from him is honesty. He was upfront on his costs. He makes some money, you get a great deal. He got me a great deal on financing as well. I would buy another car from Russell & Ukiah Ford. How many people would say that? I believe in supporting people that are good to me. I'd have no reservation sending a friend to buy a car from Russell, he's a stand up guy. He's honest. Yes, I'm actually saying that about someone who works at a car dealership. It was a 2.5hr drive to get to him from San Francisco, but I'd do it again. They also don't physically maul your new car by painting the dealership logo on the rear end of your new car, either - a simple removable license plate frame is just fine, thank you. And a note about X-Plan: most dealers either scoff at X-Plan deals, or don't look at them as money makers. But the way the deal is structured, a small, honorable dealer like Ukiah Ford makes more money on the sale if you give them an X-Plan PIN than the good price they'd try to get you without one. So do Russell a favor, and give him an X-Plan PIN for your deal! You're helping him out. Mercury Milan Hybrid vs. Ford Fusion Hybrid Mercury & Lincoln are the "luxury" brands under Ford, the same way Lexus is luxury Toyota, Acura is luxury Honda. Both vehicles are very similar, they're technically nearly identical. Why did I choose the Mercury model? Cosmetic: the front "waterfall grill" and placement of fog lamps looked better to me than the Fusion, more classy, less busy. I also like the tail light placement & shape of the Milan. There are more color choices in the Fusion (a maroon or candy apple red metallic Milan Hybrid would have been nice if available), which is unfortunate, but I really like the bright silver exterior w/black & tan leather I chose. Loaded: there are lots of options on the Fusion, you can customize it just the way you want. But I already know I wanted everything. Mercury's order codes assume you want, and make it easy, to get "everything." There aren't a lot of options on the Mercury model. Either you want everything, or you want it pretty stripped. Pricing: I believe I read that Mercury's "everything" costs less than Ford's "everything." Logo: a simple thing, but I think Mercury's logos on the car look very classy. Different: more people will own Fusions. Not as many people own Milans. Most people have no idea what it is. I like something a little off the beaten path, with the knowledge that my car can be worked on at pretty much any Ford dealership just like the Fusion can. Is this an "American" car? On multiple threads on BlueOvalForums, I've seen interesting discussions, wondering if this is an "American" car if the vehicle is built in Mexico? Does this really help Detroit? I did a lot of reading & research, and this was my response in another forum thread. What I bought: Mercury Milan Hybrid, bright silver paint, black & tan interior Rapid Spec 300A package (BLIS, rear video camera, moon & tune, rear spoiler, Sony 12 speaker system) heated front seats remote start voice activated navigation leather seats I bought the PremiumCare 7yr/100K mile warranty, with the 1st day rental option. This means if the car has to go in for service, Ford has to give me a rental car the first day it's there. I didn't know that was an option; something else I learned talking to a reputable, knowledgeable dealer like Russell @ Ukiah Ford. I bought this warranty because the hybrid system, along with all the other tech in this car, is very complex, and this is the first model year for this new design. Any major problems will be covered for many, many years. I also bought the Premium Maintenance 6yr/100K mile warranty, also with the 1st day rental option. This covers all standard maintenance on the car (oil changes, 15K, 30K, 60K services), as well as other items like brake pads, struts, various oil leaks & other components. If you're curious if this is a good deal, call your local dealership & ask how much these various services cost, and add them up. Chances are, you'll find these services (assuming no prices go up in 6 years) cost at least as much as the price of the maintenance plan, and that assumes nothing else fails that this covers for 6 years. It's a good deal. So, how I see it is, I bought the car, and now I have no expected NOR unexpected expenses, other than gas, for 6-7 years! I even get a rental car when I drop off the car for the day. Fun. And now… Mercury Milan Hybrid: Initial Impressions, Day 1 Positives: What a beautiful car. Doors shut solid. It looks & feels like an imported vehicle, and I mean that in the best complimentary sort of way. Ford has done its homework on this car. Surfaces are texturally interesting. Nice feeling leather. The key has lock/unlock icons for the alarm & doors, as well as a panic button, and another button that I think is a trunk release. There is a separate fob on the keychain for remote start. Remote start on a hybrid, you say? Why? Remote start can warm the car while you're still walking towards it. Smart? Stupid? I simply don't know yet, but I think I will when we have some cold winter days. I picked up my car in the evening, so it was dark. A nice experience driving this car at night. "Puddle lamps" in the side mirrors light up the ground near the doors, so you can see what you're stepping in; look classy too. Automatic lamps turn on the lights when you put the key in. "Mood lighting" lets you choose an interior color that lights areas by front & rear passengers' feet, dash cupholders, even inside the mid console where the SYNC USB port is for your mp3 player (iPod, etc). As my tour guide hit the button cycling through the colors, and we listened to the included free 6 month subscription to Sirius satellite radio, I felt like the only thing we were missing was a $10 door fee & a gorgeous waitress in a miniskirt serving me a vodka tonic from the rear seat. Gimmicky, but cool! Put the key in. Turn the key to the alternator position like any other car, the displays light up. Interior lights dim slowly, not abruptly on & off. Moon roof opens & closes slowly but quietly. Turn the key to what would be the starter position on any other car, and you hear… No sound. A green light turns on, telling you the car is "ready to drive." How else would you know? We put the car in Drive, let off of the brake, and the car starts moving like any other vehicle would… Except the motor isn't on. This is a TRIP. The gas engine periodically turns on when we hit the accelerator hard; it turns off as we approach stop lights, and sometimes when we accelerate away from them. I noticed that driving around parking lots where you're not accelerating quickly on a flat surface, often you're driving on all electric power. Press the brakes lightly, and you hear an electric motor deceleration sound like an electric train, such as BART - this is part of the hybrid system, turning the electric motors into generators that take all that normally wasted energy & sending it back into the batteries. Hit the brakes hard, and you stop quickly, as expected. Driving around on streets, if you accelerate from a stop light like a normal person, you usually hear the gas engine turn on, but sometimes not. But it sure is neat driving around the city at 40MPH and the gas engine isn't on, it's a trip. The Milan Hybrid can run up to 47MPH without the gas engine, relying solely on its electric motors & batteries. The two rectangular displays around the speedometer tell you a variety of useful info, such as gas engine RPM when it's on, electric battery charge when in EV (electric vehicle) mode, fuel gauge even guesstimating how many miles you can drive before you run out of fuel (this thing can get up to 700 miles per refueling!), and… Plants. Plant leaves grow the more environmentally you drive. The fewer leaves you see, the harder you're hitting the gas pedal. It's like a video game. Above the leaves you see your current fuel economy. I did a lot of highway driving last night; it was only ~31MPG, but that was with me driving the car like a regular car, on a cold night, with heater & all lights on. The heat for the heater comes from the gas engine, so it has to be on to heat the interior. The A/C is electric, so it can run off the battery on a hot day. That will be interesting to test. At one point last night, I stopped in a parking lot. Putting the car in reverse, the backup camera allowed me to easily see a way back in the dark lot, and kept me from hitting a fence, as I could not only see the fence in the camera with my rear bumper, but the beeping from the sonar system beeps faster as you approach an object. On the freeway, the BLIS system lights a small amber light in the side mirrors to tell you when someone is driving alongside you, perhaps in the blind spot. You can change lanes assured that nobody is back there. Really. The center display does all kinds of things. It shows the rear view camera. It shows the voice-activated navigation system. It controls the radio, or Sirius satellite radio (6 months free with your new car), or lets you control your iPod or other mp3 player, or play music you load off the 10GB "jukebox" built-in to your car. It lets you play music CDs, or DVD movies (but not while you're driving; don't drive & watch movies!). It shows a schematic of the car's power usage, like the Prius can. I was very impressed that I linked my iPhone to the car via Bluetooth. The SYNC system downloaded my phone book so I can call people by voice command (I don't know how to do that yet but I will learn, my brother does that in his SYNC-powered Lincoln). Music started playing from my iPhone -- but my iPhone isn't physically plugged in! Yes, the car was using the Bluetooth connection to play music on my iPhone, wirelessly, digitally, through the car's stereo system. WOW. Without reading the manual, I figured out how to get from the dealership back home using the nav system's touch screen. Easy, clear voice and on-screen directions, automatically lowers music during announcements, clear voice. This morning, I had to pull the Milan off the driveway to make room for someone coming over. The rear window was obscured with morning dew, so I couldn't see out of it. But I put the car in Reverse, and the rear back up camera lit up, allowing me to easily see through the foggy morning. I parked the car on the street, put the car in reverse, and could easily see through the backup camera to keep from hitting my other car, with the beeps getting faster as I approached my other car's bumper. I put the car in drive to pull forward, then put the car in reverse again to straighten the car out. I heard the car beeping, and the driver's side mirror BLIS light came on. Why? I turned around, and noticed another car was quickly approaching around the corner. The sonar system doesn't just tell you what's behind you, it tells you if someone is approaching perpendicularly, like if you're pulling out of a parking lot space, and someone is approaching you from the rear side. The technologies in this car are subtle, but brilliant, and will likely prevent accidents. They stay out of the way until they need to let you know something. Amazing. Negatives: Negatives are few & far between. One thing I noticed was in the trunk, where the spare tire is. You use a flimsy piece of carpeted particle board to separate trunk space from the spare tire. Why? My 2001 Lexus RX-300, a 10 year old vehicle, had a quality door separating trunk space from the spare. It just looks better. Just because a surface isn't experienced often, doesn't mean we don't notice it. This is so '70s, Ford. C'mon, I just spent $30K on a car. Do better here. I also noticed when I lift this piece of particle board, I can see some of the welds that piece the car together. I SHOULD NOT SEE THESE. Once again, this is a '70s look, not a 2010 quality look. You've put a dimming rear view mirror in my Milan. Nice. But my 2001 Lexus not only dimmed the rear view mirror, but the SIDE mirrors too. I expect you to match technology from 10 years ago! Am I being whiny? Sure, until a big rig truck pulls up behind me on the freeway and his lights reflected in the side mirrors blind me. Honestly, I have to be nit picky because you've built such a gorgeous car, it's hard to find anything wrong with it. But I'm comparing it to my 10 year old Lexus SUV. You have to match that level of quality. Summary The last Ford product I purchased was my old '89 Mustang convertible. This was an ok car, but it was "American" ok. We all know what that means. It means that it was ok by "American car engineering standards," but unacceptable by "Japanese engineering car standards." American car engineering was big heavy metal, poorly fitting parts, squeaky, poorly fitting interior components, often poor design, often poorly engineered to break or fail, car systems don't feel integrated. We'd think in our minds, "I guess that's the best American car manufacturers can do." When we think of Japanese cars, we think of "thin" or "sleek" metal (even when not physically thin), well fitting components, wind & squeak noise-free, nicely designed plastic pieces, nicely designed, engineered, matched components that work together. Someone loved designing & engineering the components to fit well together, so the person building the car didn't have to bend & force parts to fit. The builder loved building the car (or at least didn't hate ill-fitting components), so there would be fewer problems up front. When a problem happened on the Japanese car manufacturing line, it was few & far between, not the norm, leading to higher quality cars with few problems. I have no idea if my perceptions are true, but that's how it feels in my gut. I left Ford, and bought a (used) 2001 Lexus RX-300. Lexus quality is amazing, and their service is the best I've ever experienced - take my car in to get fixed, and if the service lasts more than a few hours, they give me a NEW Lexus to drive around for the day -- which is not only generous, but a genius marketing move, showing me the technology I may want in my next *Lexus* vehicle. If you didn't know what country was responsible for this car, you'd think it was Japanese. Nice exterior styling, nice interior design & engineering, systems seem integrated. Everything feels like quality. I'm a technology guy, and the technology in this car is impressive, but it drives like a normal car. This car is delightful: its fusion of brilliant technology, excellent engineering, & smart design shows me that this car was loved at the design & engineering stage, so everyone responsible for building it, marketing it, and selling it will love their job too. Ok Ford, just keep doing THAT to all your models, be an inspiration to GM to get its act together, and Detroit will be a world-class force to be reckoned with. I want to say to everyone responsible for this vehicle: a beautiful, beautiful job. You should be so proud of yourselves. All of you. - Adam
  10. I think in the US they're sold separately. I bought both for my new Mercury Milan Hybrid. Check the prices of the 15K, 30K, and 60K services at your local dealership, and compare to the price of the Maintenance plan - provided nothing else went wrong, you just paid for the price of the plan, and adding it into your financing means you have no worries for what, 6 years/100K miles? Nice. I bought PremiumCare for 7yrs/100K, and Premium Maintenance for 6yrs/100K. - Adam
  11. Suzuki has a new hybrid coming out, with a hybrid system co-developed with GM. Would you call that an American or Japanese car? The hybrid system is very important in a hybrid car. http://www.greencarcongress.com/2009/08/ki...d-20090816.html A strike at a transmission component manufacturing plant in India caused a supply shortage at Ford in MI where they assemble the transmissions. This in turn stopped production of several Ford & Lincoln vehicles at Ford's Ontario, Canada assembly plant. Are these Indian, American, or Canadian Ford vehicles? http://www.livemint.com/2009/10/23223329/R...hutdown-at.html Apple's iPhone 3G S uses software & engineering talent by an American company, it's designed by a British industrial designer, it's assembled at factories in China, using components designed in America & various Asian countries and manufactured in Asia. What nationality takes the thanks that this product exists? http://www.isuppli.com/News/Pages/iPhone-3...wn-Reveals.aspx http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Ive Today's large companies are multi-national, using parts from around the world. Even so-called "American" manufacturers may use components from various countries, or may buy supplies from American companies that source them from foreign countries, or American companies build components using machinery or raw materials from foreign countries. New Balance, an American shoe company, sticks a little tag on every shoe they make, asking, "what is an American product?" NB says they're American, using American manufacturing, but sourcing raw materials from America & around the world. I'm sure a Chinese guy buying an iPhone realizes Apple, an American company, made the bulk of the money, even though the product was built in his country. Is he angry or happy about that? I'm not sure. I had similar feelings before ordering my own Mercury Milan Hybrid in early September. Is this an "American" product, if it's built in Mexico? But then I realized, American engineering talent designed this product, and although non-Americans built the product, an American company made profit off my purchase, which is used to hire American engineering talent to build better cars. My Mercury Milan Hybrid should show up at the end of the month. I can't wait! - Adam
  12. Hi bbf, I see where you're coming from. I think we put more weight on a car, simply because of its value & how seldom we buy one. Even a TV, or a washer & dryer, are products that are fairly inexpensive compared to the price of a car. Outside of a home, it's probably the single most expensive item most people own. I think that's why we see a car purchase as something that can have a real effect on the US economy. - Adam
  13. Hello all, I am seriously considering a Mercury Milan 2010 Hybrid. I owned a Ford many years ago that disappointed me, so I wasn't considering purchasing another. But one of my brothers owns a Mercury, and I've been pretty impressed with its quality, so I figured I'd take a second look. I know my next car will be a hybrid. As I've done my research, the Ford Fusion / Mercury Milan 2010 hybrid has come to the forefront of my list. I'm not the type of person who will buy American at all cost. If the American product is fundamentally worse than the competition, then I won't consider it. From all the reviews I've read online, this new hybrid has impressed the reviewers. Part of me does want to help our economy in a small way, and if I can do that & get a quality product in return, so much the better. So obviously I was distressed when I was reading some of Ford's press kit about the Mercury Milan, http://media.ford.com/press_kits.cfm?presskit_id=1984 and I came across the production location, stating that the Milan & Milan Hybrid are built in Mexico (bottom right corner). http://media.ford.com/images/10031/2010_Me...ilan_Hybrid.pdf I came across the thread http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums/index...showtopic=29059 discussing The Motley Fool's article, "Ford Fusion Confusion." http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2008...-confusion.aspx The comments in that article basically say that yes, the car is manufactured in Mexico, leading to a loss of some blue collar jobs. But the engineering of the car was done in the USA, leading to many white collar jobs here, and profits go to an American company & not back to Japan or elsewhere. But where the profits go... Is that relevant to anyone but a shareholder or company exec? What really is better for the US worker putting food on their family's table, a Camry that was built here with parts sourced here, or a Fusion that was built in Mexico? Toyota builds some of their hybrid Camrys in KY. http://www.hybridcars.com/compacts-sedans/...d-overview.html My gut feeling is that having the hybrid engineering talent in the US is more important long term, and will lead to better jobs in the US. But there is a place for manufacturing in the US. Some people will never have the knowledge or ability to design a hybrid drive system, but can follow orders & build the system in a manufacturing facility. It's important that we have jobs here for our citizens. Ford could have made this decision a no brainer for me if it was manufactured in the US. I look forward to your thoughts. - Adam
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