I hear that the biggest problem in Lima is that that the supervision and hr are a bunch of incompetent drunks. Taco tuesdays down at the neiborhood bar, bowling on wednesdays, golfing binges in florida. the salary in the new engine line are the worst. everynight after work its a big drunkfest and they can't hardley get to work the next day! If an hourly person happens to wonder into "their bar", they harass them until they leave. This shouldn't be tolerated. My buddy there says that salary has taken over the moose club, golf clubs, eagles club, ect. In my neck of the woods, they have their own place and don't come to ours. Sounds like arrogance to me. There are ways to break these parties up folks. dif. culture up here i guess. Good Luck Lima, seems like you still have alot going for you. The other problems like the drunks will take care of themselves.