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Much better, but you know this place, I believe it when I see it.
The last shortage situation we had I was told we had priority status.
How about A crew monday? 8 hours?
They just called 8 hours for Body and Plaint. (Mass Relief) The number over in Trim and Chassis is as of last hour is 228.
I believe we are going to be priority .... again. Buy those Explorers!!!!! Hell we cant make enough of the rest of the units... Buy`em ALL!!!
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What plant caught fire?
Sir, General Sir,
The plant that manufactures our sensors. Once again all the eggs in one basket, syndrome. Sir
How things going up there at the Generals plant?
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What 3 shifts were these? We went 10.7 yesterday on dayshift. There have only been 2 shifts since.
B crew was let go at 10 hours last night after relieving for 10.7. C crew today and B crew today, 8 hours. Tomorrow will have the C crew doing 8 hours. Is that better?
Has CAP been given priority status for stock?
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what happen just got a call not to show.
CAP has done three shifts of 8 hours. The weekend work will only be for repairs.
Reducing production because of the parts plant fire.
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Grant's a good dude...
I agree, and showing more and more ability to lead.
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Who did that? Grant?...or is he in stamping? Regardless...I luv luv luv this kinda $hit! Management needs a good kick in the ass occasionally!
Yes, Grant and a few of our younger Rep`s came together and used the contract language properly!!!!!
I love to see this happening also!!!!
Grant is here at CAP, not at CHSP.
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Meanwhile at The Rouge.If you happen to see the one person out of hundreds walking around outside on the road {yes it is a rule}wearing a yellow safety vest that guy is me,my union brother.So a security guard at The Rouge,can holler at me,call me "HEY YOU",run at me {I know you know nothing about intimidating body language,it doesnt exist until an hourly person does it}demand my identification without presenting any introductions himself and then read me the 'working-class riot of July 5th,2012'.By the way ,I told my supervisor the very next day about what happened and I still dont have a yellow vest.So here is what Fatso,the mitty-man would do.I would tell everybody not to walk off the sidewalk during the course of their work day until they are provided with a yellow safety vest.It is impossible to get around without a yellow vest because there are not many sidewalks.How is that for solidarity?If a Local CAP UAW official finally stood up------G-O-D B-L-E-S-S Y-O-U!WE EARN our money by making Ford profits!Respect and dignity dont cost the company any money!Leave it to Chicago,,,,my hometown by the way.Ever been to Marquette Park around 71st and Kedzie?Ever see a NAZI van blaring messages.Hey if that post above this one has anything to do with me----I did not read it.Sick of the fucking peasants reading me the 'working-class riot act of July 7th 2012'.You read my shit,,,I dont care about yours.Maybe you`ll learn something!Did I tell ya I was born in Chicago?
Born in Chicago? Then you`ll know where 103rd & Wentworth Ave is. I learned how to stand up right there in that part of Roseland (Pullman). Yep, heard stories about the nazi van. They would turn off the shit about a block away from my Grandfather`s hot dog stand at 79th & Halsted. (David Berg Hotdog`s) After they stopped and got their dog`s with the secret sauce, they would take their Mr. Pibb`s and Berg dogs get back in their van and at about 80th & Halsted they would turn their shit back on....
You need a yellow vest.... take one. Hell, take a box of the dam vests. Sell a couple of them and take the money and buy a dozen of dunkin`s best and drop them off at the guard shack.... Give them the Chicago special touch.
Sounds like you might need to spend a little time back home... remember how Chicago works? remember how the CPD works? Security Guard`s.... rent a cop`s thats all.
I`ve learned something, you don`t read much and it`s ok to read your shit. Oh, you did mention you spent time in Chicago. Ever process through 26th & California?
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The IUAW has turned into an administrative service company that promotes corporatism.On a local level,much depends on 'who you are',meaning that there is unequal enforcement of the contract and favortism depending on if you are just an ordinary hourly person or a union person.DTP operates at 90% capacity and the more the workforce is compliant the harder the company acts!My opinion.Results may vary."Up to and including termination".Yes at DTP a security guard may order you to show your I.D.badge.Make you state your name while looking at the badge and admonish\intimidate you for rule violations such as stepping off the sidewalk while not wearing a yellow reflective vest while walking outside of the plant.It doesnt happen to everybody,I understand that.KEEP READING----nobody ever gave me a yellow vest.What am I doin wrong NOW!?What did I do this time?Ya wanna transfer to DTP?Its where it{the UAW} all began,Deck.Come on Deck,me and you buddy!You wanna stand up?You wanna be the guinea pig?I`ll watch!Me,I eat shit.Humiliating and depressing as it may be,for food and shelter for my family,I eat shit.Lets open up the contract and give some more concessions to make up for the losses in Europe!
Fatso, come on...
I have been doing this stand up thing for a few years. (elected/appointed) I`ve had to do the humiliation song and dance many times... many times. I have had members stand right next to me, when making their point to management, just to have the members look at management and take their side in the discussion. Or watch as members give their self up for the taking, even in a situation that was completely win able. Then there are the situations that make every time I have had to start dancing or ask for fries with that shit sandwich, you know the situation where a LRO Rep is not only wrong but can`t see that the person sitting across from their desk is a human being. Then minutes after the discussion wtih the LRO Rep and the member is given much less or not given any discipline at all.
Then the time when we went to one shift and all the problems our members went through. All the phone calls made, getting members directed to the right agencies, taking members to local churches and even showing up at court, for moral support, just to state for the record that the man (member) was and had been on lay off for over 9 monthes and was fighting to retain visitation rights. All the time I had members complaining "you spend to much time at the hall". On two occasions, a member put a motion on the flood to stop me from being at the hall so much. (both times the motion was unsuccessful) All in all, it was all worth it (the standing up) because of the look on the members face or the thank you`s from their kindala and family members, that makes up for everything else.
Over the years I have had the privilege of not only holding positions but, having the ablity to learn the other side of the coin. That other side of the coin or knowledge of how it works is what finally made me stop caring about being anything more than a local level Rep. Not real sure I want to do that either.
Like you Fatso, I too have a family (grown now) and have, with the help of my business partners (IUAW and Ford), put food in their mouthes and a roof over their heads. I like you and so many others just want to be treated like something more than a cost factor, equipment or liability. Also so many just want to be treated as a business partner in a fair manner. Most just want the DAM contract to be abided by.
So if you agree that there is a Fatso at DTP and a Decker at CAP that are similar and then realize that there are 10`s of thousands other UAW members that are just as similar to those two trouble makers (Fatso & Decker) You won`t need a guinea pig (Decker) packing up and taking a drive on 94.
Only when the members become aware that they have to stand up, will things start to get better. Most cases were the membership will have to stand up the membership has to realize that in most cases they are standing up against two fronts. IUAW and Ford.
The one thing that is becoming more and more appearent and a very useful tool "communication"!!!! The knowledge of what the hell they (Ford & IUAW) are doing at the different plants is their biggest fear. There is no need for a Decker at DTP or a Fatso at CAP we just have to communicate. We have younger members teaching older memebers how to text. There are members that get together to just ..... discuss issues. This is what I believe is making things different at CAP. Communicate, communicate and then communicate some more.....
Fatso, you and I have agreed on many issues and once again I agree with you a 100%, when it comes to opening up the contract. I like so many at CAP think we haven`t seen anything yet.... the next negociations may be a real "eye" opener. I dont refer to those two pretty blue peepers......
Hang in there young brother, hang on to hope... and communicate!!!!
Decker
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At DTP the Plant Manager AND the security guard would of had their shoes shined with a smile and a whistle down at the the Union Hall!
Now ...Fatso.... and a whisle too??
I would like to make one thing just a little clearer. Yes, we had our Chairman and a small group of Rep`s act on the " I`M THE BOSS" type of attitude we see so offend from those in management that most offend don`t have a clue or experience in the position they hold. (Mr. Wells??) But, we are still experiencing the cool or cold feet from some of our Rep`s. When this situation was being acted on the text messages were flying..... some, I`m sure from management to UAW rep`s and I`m sure there were the text messages from UAW Rep`s to management.
We will have those that think its better to hold off and let the company do as they see fit. We also have the shoot`em all and let G-D sort them out.... mentality. But, I see this group that we have at CAP looking at the way they represent the members as a business, a carryover from the recent past. In business the give and take is good for all unless its one sided. Like so oftend it has been, here at CAP. But, this group of younger Rep`s is looking at equality for the membership. (something we have needed for some time at CAP)
So, yes we had a strong group of Rep`s stroll down to the floor with the Chairman and to all those text messages and questions, I don`t know where the other Rep`s went? Take it from one that has had the privilege of climbing down into the companies back yard ready to fight, it can be very intimidating and yes scary..... but, give those Rep`s time. Those that come out next time ready to back up the contract to the memberships benefit will be the Rep`s you want in our corner.
Hope.... it`s the one thing that we all need.
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I just attended a meeting at our paint shop and the MPS was MF'ing a Chairman at Chicago Assembly. This guys name is Chris Wells and is a royal ass" ". The act that he had heard out of Chicago Assembly that he had worked at for a while was as followed and I need confirmation if it is true. He was talking to the rest of his kiss asses about how the Assistant Plant Manager called 10.7 on Sunday the last day before the break leading into the 4th. According to the story he tells that the Plant Chairman shut down the plant and walked out the membership. The MPS here was irate because the Assistant Plant Manager told him that the security company was called and ask to walk out the Chairman but flat out refused. The membership has been beaten down for years and if this is true this is the flicker of defiance based on the contract being a two way street that this membership is thirsting for. Anyone at Chicago Assembly that has any information I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
The last scheduled day of production prior to a holiday (vacation) is a 10 hours schedule.
Yes, our Chairman shut the line down. Yes, our Chairman expressed to the off shift manager that even on an AWS the language is still in place. Yes, the off shift manager was pissed and did call our security. The security team showed up but, stated they would not be able to act on the request to remove a Chairman from the plant.
Our Rep`s have been showing that "yes" its still Ford Motor Co. but, the Rep`s have been making the company abide by the agreement. Our Chairman has been using more and more of his resources when it comes to checking with his Rep`s and members before just going along with the flow.
We have had Trades members that have not been screwed out of their mid-night shift premium. The company wanted to "help" the Trades by starting them at 6:30pm instead of the agreed 7pm..... Then the company saw nothing wrong with allowing a contractor (ESI) to come on site with out proper paperwork and clearance.... Now the 10.7 manditory demand.... We have District committeepersons that are standing up to the company when they start stating that our people "will", "better" and "have too"....
Then the "Vacation" schedule....the company could not make the decision on who was and who wasn`t going to work. Our Rep`s stood up to to last minute crap and those that were on the list to work and were told last week they had no work available, will receive SWW benefit for this week.
Yes the list goes on.
In some eyes these are small examples of achievements by our chair and our group of rep`s we have now. All I can say, those that can`t see the hope in these rep`s are more or less wanting the rep`s to fail for their own personal reasons (election time) or just plain ass haters. Young members and old members confiding in each other, members letting members know what is going on in other departments and members having open communication with their Chairman and Rep`s.
Sure is a good feeling to see this happening. It has been a long time since this type of thing (solidarity) has occupied CAP.
Decker
Still thankful to have a job..... even more thankful for respect.
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Hey Decker . . . Don't be concerned about pushing those units out the door and bringing them back into repair. . . We do the same at the DTP. . . It's been heard by visiting vendors that they think our units are HAND BUILT and are considering buying one.
DTPrt !!! I never thought of it that way!!! maybe the boys and girls in marketing can work with your idea "HAND MADE" oh yah, I can see it now..... "Ford... Hand Built Your Way"
Outstanding!!! idea DTPrt
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Hey Decker,
How come people on here hate me for speaking the truth?
Sir, General, Sir.
I don`t think it is hate as in "dam I wish the General would just ....?" I don`t think it`s hate, like in, I just dont like the General because he is "Black, White, Muslim or Jew" or any number of the other completely senseless hateful reasons. I mean, really this is a blind type of medium. Can`t see a face and even if someone posts a face well, is it the true face of the poster? or what ever we are called that write to this board....
As for the hating of what you post? the truth? Well, if that is the case you are in some really good company. They (meaning in general and not the General, Sir) hated what Lincoln had to say. They hated what Martin had to say. Then there was the hate from their own people and supporters. There was a much loved Rabbi in N.Y. that many thought of as one of great knowledge and was held very high by almost everyone of his Temple members. But, there were those that thought the Rabbi spoke the truth to often and sometimes spoke of things that some of his fellow Jews thought could bring the membership of his Temple to much attention or would ade those that would do them harm. So yes even the Rabbi was hated to some extent by his own people.
So General I can not say why people hate, people do at times, things that have no common sence or reason. On this board we all have our fans and well lets just say "non" fans. This brings me back to your question. Hate because of the truth....
I really believe its not hate, in its turest form. Irritating, to some maybe. The ability to touch someones sore spot. Or maybe the way a response is worded, can bring out a little resentment..... But, Hate? naa I don`t thik so.
Now to others your exchanges with BigForker and LongCountry can be real entertaining. But I think they may see or feel just a little resentment or the ictching of some irritating exchanges and you have it down to a science when it comes to that touching of those sore spots....
So after filling to many lines of this post with good old fashion and boring....reason. To hell with the hate talk General!!!! take NO prisoners!!!! Touch all those sore spots!!! Make`em itch with your type of irritant!!!
Your..... THE GENERAL!!!!
Waiting to be entertained
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Oh yeah, one other thing General, if you know anyone at DTP thats wants to be a supper dupper supervisor... the call has gone out again. The postings have been put up all over the plant. CAP`s HR is considering anyone......
If you would consider starting at 39K and can say "eyedoeno" you to could be apart of the few, the proud, and the brave souls that want to lead CAP into the..... abiss
Time to repair the donuts!!!
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Wake up Decker! That assembly line is still running for one more week!
Thanks General, for the wake up call.
We have more work then we know how to repair.... park`em here.. park`em there.... Strong possibility no down week for the north end of the plant.
But, I`ll make that money now, then head down to see Mom and Dad, then back out west !!!! I love being able to call the shots on all my time off. Brings back found memories. Back when the place was full of kids working the summer before heading back to school. When their time was up and school was calling, many had the same thoughts.... Dam!!! how do those people do that shit EVERYDAY!!!!! FOREVER???
Now, things are different they dont come in for just the summer. No they have high hopes. But, for a large group of them they didn`t wait till the end of summer.... nope, they had the same thoughts as those kids back in the day, "Dam!!! how do those people do that shit EVERYDAY!!! FOREVER???then it only took a day or two to come up... MIA.. We see some movement to opening up the gates and letting another heard in to see if they like our surroundings. I have heard that NO ONE in the Trades wants to come to CAP so we are doing the next best thing, they sent some cowboys out to the Tinley Hospital to round up a heard of the inmates and bring`em back.
But, all and all things are running normal for CAP. Yep, its kinda like a horse race, "slow to decide" is closing in on "EyeDoeNo" but "Slippery Stupid" is leading by a head....
How`s things working out at your beloved place of employment?
Decker
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A person with an occupational restriction from medical could be just about anything depending on what their injury is and the extent of it ... i.e. limited use of an arm or hand, weight limits on how much they should lift , no bending or twisting, etc. Once a person has one of these restrictions in place the complany automatically places a 40 hour restriction on them as well so they are not eligible for overtime. A person with a personal restriction most likely will be found as "no work available" so that working will not aggravate a non-work condition and prevent it from becoming occupational.
Maybe else where but, at CAP it dosen`t work that way.
During our 7 X 12 run we had members with very little time working in pre-delivery doing the 7 X 12`s and they had someone else carry their check because of their lifting restriction.....
At CAP, a restriction is your key to the city, a get out of jail free pass and how would you like a second helping of OT......
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And I will get u cheap car insurance! Lmfao
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Can't find many explorers on the lot, do I need to come over there and straighten things out
We seem to be doing the storage lot shuffle again... as long as they have 4 wheels on them push them off the line. (fix it later) Sometimes even the wheels are the wrong ones. But hell, got the numbers we need!!!! We are shipping the darn things 24 hours a day. It is a really good unit. Everybody seems to like it and though the Jeep looks just like it we keep out selling the Jeep. The new Explorer Sport really looks good and the big V6 really makes it move. I like it. The new 2013.5 Taurus turbo I4 is interesting too. It moves great for being a 4 banger. The gas mileage will sell itself on this one. Sure hope the management team dosen`t screw it up....
Because if they start to screw things up.... i know who to call ! He has straightened out stupid shit before. The... General!!!
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Did they teach u how to ride around and look at women? I heard that was a 3 week course.
Our former plant manager was the instuctor for that course.... he had it down to a science. Our garage guy would get the call then snap into action. Next thing you would see he had the VIP buggy washed and waxed then parked it at the bottom of the plant managers stairway. Then strolling down the stairs and looking the part of a south side king, off he would ride....
But, his abilities were not over looked.... No, the powers that be saw something, yep something that made our former plant manager a "Die Rector".....
I guess the riding around looking at women does pay off....
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Yea I remember that post and I pictured the same thing I think that poster realized he was beating a dead horse!! He was close to being on KP duty til he shaped up and realized The General was in charge of that topic!
Yea got those OAC guys all in an uproar!
I speak knowledge and they can't handle it.
Once again, GLAD your back!!!
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Nope I'm a PFA just like you Decker.
Nope, I went through the 12 steps and stopped being one of those......
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Had to come back, missed u decker!
I don`t know about missing anyone but I do miss your way of running and/or controling some of the posts. In the way that only the General can.
It was some time ago but I remember you had someone all tied up in knots and the person was all but, kicking and scratching at every post. and the responce that had me rolling on the floor was " bow down to me..." All I could see, was this person sitting there reading your responce with the top of their head blowing wide open... :hysterical2: .
Now thats entertainment!!!! Keep up the great work. I see your handy work on the Ontario thread, Dam your good. Or should I say "Sir, dam your good, Sir"
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Play ball. Grow up
That wit... that wisdom.... Dam good to have the General back on the board!!!
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One good thing is that your plant has lots of 2nd Tier which will make Ford more inclined to keep 3 crews running cause the labor cost are cheaper!
Also they will consider new product cause cost will be cheaper!
You are so correct.
We have close to 1400 2nd tier members and more on the way. Labor cost alone has put CAP at the top/bottom of the list when comes to the operating costs. Labor per unit cost has to be at the lowest or close to the lowest in the company.
We have in the recent past run the proto types (144 units) for the 2013 Fusion. The measurements have been taken, the units have been put through our automation and we have proven we too will be building the C/D platform. 2015 Taurus will be on the C/D platform along with the Fusion. The D platform is running numbers that alone can support almost two shifts of production. Police units, Explorer units are both D platforms with no Lincoln badge on them? Maybe? there is discussion the the D platform may be the new home for a down sized Lincoln unit? Yes it seems our cheaper labor is the magnet for more product. Nice Ford didn`t even have to pack up and run south for it, nope just put us against us and.... everyone wins?
So yes CAP has a bright future for the company. For the members of labor, I can see the past coming back to be used against us, again. Mexico, CAP and AAI all able to product the same platforms, who will win in the race to keep the product. AAI with their high cost to profit ratio? CAP with the cheapest labor in the system and muti platform ability? Mexico?
The company knows. The IUAW knows. As for labor we will be on the receiving end of all the half truths, bull shit and lies. We will see some real fancy talk when it comes to helping the 2nd tier in the next round of talks.
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@decker before you started posting your diatribe about your distaste for Ccrew and being one of the 1700+ political discussions ran rampant. They have now been moved to a separate sub group under here. When you talk of public organized labor is one thing, but ours is private. Mods will move this. Have a swell day
Yep, I remember the time when politics was a large part of almost every post. During the last election it was kinda crazy on this board. I guess you might be right. Mods will move this?
You refer to being able to hold days if you want. Are you one that bid on a classification that you always wanted but didnt have the seniority to get, until the C crew came to DTP? How`s it work at DTP now that you are a C crew member can you just bump back to the shift you can hold? Or are you stuck on C crew until there is an opening in your classification?
It seems the bumping system is pretty much an uncertain topic here at CAP. Some not only hope the bumps will come soon but, there are those on the C crew that are preying that they will be able to bump off your favored C crew. At this point most A & B crew members have not expressed much if any desire to bump to C crew. We do see the traditional reasons for bumping, starting time.
When working conditions move to a temporary situation (AWS) a lot of members are wondering how permanent classifications can be awarded. Then if the working conditions requires a reduction of the C crew, the movement back to a traditional agreement, how then would the reduction in force would proceed with these temporary classifications?
Her at CAP we have had three weeks of this AWS and all I can say is, really.... we have members not showing up for work in large numbers. (everyday) Members stating their bodies cant take the schedule. And it seems the medical department is on overtime.....
One thing here at CAP our Rep`s fought hard to keep the Trades on a 7pm start. (not 6:30pm) Not everyone likes their 3 on 4 off, 4 on 3 off schedule but at least the Trades had some say in their schedule and are getting their midnigfht premium.
Then there is the attendance problem in general. We have A & B crew members working 5 and 6 days a week in every department. The C crew has some members that dont like this fact and voice there opinion regularly. Like at Laborer`s Hall all over the country, our members are being told to "just come in" we will most likely work you. Now this may me working out OK for now but, I can see some hurt feeling when the budget is reduced and people show up and dont get to work and management states "I never said to come in"...
As for the most important thing every manager is concerned with "The Numbers"... we cant seem to get them. Now some areas or even some departments can play the game and short shift but most often screw the next shift coming in with low first hour numbers....
Well, Damage is this a good enough turn away from politics? Sorry if you didnt want an update from CAP.
As for bitchin about the C crew well, I really dont think many peolpe making the 15 dollars an hour are aware that they are the end result of the IUAW and FORD striking a deal to keep "Southern" jobs up north, with southern pay. If you look at what happened it once again shows that we were put against each other. Instead of fighting for a middle class range of wages for all the members, our leaders figured again... we can keep these jobs (dues) from going south and "Help Ford" and at the same time we can sell "ALL" these jobs as a great thing. Now before you take aim and try to blow me off the board, I`m for getting people back to work. I`m for people having the security of middle class wages. The same wages that helped me put three peolpe through school. The wages that gave my family the security of the roof over their heads. Yes the wages that are at the highest level only 8% to 10% of the cost of the products we make. Damage do you think yours and my middle class wages are secure? Do you think a member making $15 will be able to send kids to college?
It seems really interesting that the 2 tier wage system was sold as a company saving proposal and the membership was never told that the wages we were agreeing on would save or help the 2nd tier members become middle class wage earners. Have you ever heard the term Supplemental Work Force? This is the category our C crew, 2nd tier members are in according to most state employment agencies. AWS is temporary work schedule that keeps that category in place.
Now I have heard the stories that we will have to fight at the next round of contract talks. I agree that the membership will have to fight. For??? Will we see once again the helpping hand of the IUAW? Will we see the temporary 2nd tier members put against the higher wage members? Are we all going to hear the "you should be thankful" speachs?
One issue that is for sure the true issue we will be facing in the next go round is our "wages".... it might be disguised as helping the company or more temporary jobs but, it is always going to be the money we get paid.
Good too see the General is back.
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Super Sat. DTP ?
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Tomorrow, looks short real short (0 hours) and Monday is regular start times for A crew and C crew......
Decker