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With borgs recent comments over on GMI, I’m starting to think this will look a lot like the Aeros with a truck bed. It has a very similar slope to the windshield. The hood appears to be similar length but maybe a tad more sloped than what the truck will be. Pretty plain sides like Borg said it had. Remove the rear cargo area and replace it with a truck bed and give it some different lights and I bet it’s pretty close.
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3 hours ago, Sherminator98 said:
https://www.motortrend.com/news/2028-ford-ranchero-ev-pickup-future-cars
New Renders that seem to be closer to what it actually looks like. I still think the window sills are lower on the door and it won’t have that stupid light fang design
I’m pretty sure this is the same as the red one from the other week, just slightly different angles and color. All the other details appear to be the same.
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8 hours ago, Zestyg said:
Car & Driver used these renders from Avarvarii. Obviously not the real thing, but honestly looks like a decent composition of what we do know, although the hood is not nearly steep enough or bezeled
Besides the wheels, it probably won’t look much like this. It’s too high off the ground. Bumpers wrong. Zesty pointed out the differences in the hood slope. Plus the windshield isn’t sloped as much or long enough. Remember in the camo images we’ve seen, the windshield extends over a good portion of the front wheel well. Looks like they copied the front lights from the blue truck sketch. The rear cab has a bit of a buttress going on (slightly angled). Hopefully thats not accurate.
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6 hours ago, rmc523 said:
Going back to this ticket thing - I wonder if additional reveals are happening 7/15 (almost here) and 8/27?
FWIW, Borg's latest info for it:Details about the Skunktruck are due to start coming out in early August, including the name. The reveal is scheduled for January and reservations will begin immediately for the 2028 MY. I guess Ford is calling this a "Season of Reveals". I kinda suspected this was coming, their go-to-market strategy is to hype up each innovation independently to inform attitudes before the truck is fully revealed. Farley has mentioned it's a new form factor, not just a pickup. If they dumped it on the market in one confusing/boring burst of announcements, it might be rejected at face-value.
The semi-mid gate has me interested more than anything. The mid-gate is built into the back seat and folds down to open up the passthrough. Smaller but simpler than the full midgate GM offers. The load floor under the rear seat is flatter than Mavericks, but not completely flat like F-150. It also has a fold flat front seat, a feature that comes and goes at Ford for some reason, but it will be very useful here.This is how the telo’s mid gate works. The rear seat backs are attached to the mid gate. Opening the midgate essentially is folding the rear seats down. Skip to about 2:30 in this video to see it.
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The second one reminds me of a minivan with stow and go seating. Wonder how floor storage works on an EV when the battery is in the floor?
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Timberline sounds like a better name to use on Lincoln’s. Too bad ford already used it on the Explorer.
I wonder if ford’s marketing department has anyone with kids in it? skylands makes me think of the skylanders toys/games. Just like blue cruise makes me think of blues clues.
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How long are they gonna do refreshes for? Seems like it’s time for a redesign, or did that get screwed up with the switch away from EVs?
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I think I would probably prefer a more traditional looking truck even if it costs a bit of range. I wonder if Ford did any focus groups to test this?
-traditional design, 30k, 275 mile range
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-aero design, 30k, 300 mile range
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2 minutes ago, DeluxeStang said:
Agreed. Design, size, and range are gonna be the three biggest hurdles they have to clear. Personally, I like it, but that's because I'm an enthusiast who likes low, sleek utes, which this thing is. But will the general buying public respond well to this? Who knows.
One of the key arguments we see come up in car vs. truck/utilities arguments is that trucks and utilities sell better largely due to their high seating position that makes it easier to see out, makes people feel safer, and makes getting in an out easier. Will a truck that's essentially the height of a hatchback still appeal to those buyers? Probably not. But I can see it finding a new audience, younger, tech savvy buyers for instance who prefer smaller cars and could trade in their civic for this. Like we saw with maverick conquest sales.
I was thinking about the seating position too. It’s possible that even though the vehicle is low, maybe the actual seating position is a bit higher since it’s sitting on top of the batteries?
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I think if it succeeds or not all depends on its design. The slate truck’s design has gone over well because it looks like your classic mini truck. Even being bare bones, made out of plastic, only two seats, and 100 miles less range, people are wanting to throw down 25k or more for it, which is slightly less than what this truck would cost. Compare that to the Telo truck which is a much more useful and user friendly vehicle, but your average buyer doesn’t care because it’s weird looking and expensive. The ford isn’t as extreme looking as the Telo, but it could be different enough that people won’t like it. Just gotta wait til that camo comes off to know for sure.
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Im guessing the quarter is down because of employee pricing. Last year it ran for 3 months(4/3-7/6) and this year it’s only running for 2 months(5/1-7/6). The quarter would have looked better if it had an extra month of employee pricing
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1 hour ago, Zestyg said:
I think that comes from the extremely swept back nature of the roofline. Geometrically this shrinks the ratio of height to body. I had trouble wrapping my head around it at first, but honestly looking at a Mazda CX-50 really clears up any concerns on that. It’s a form that works, it is cool, low to the ground, but it is still identifiably a trucky-truck.
It is going to hinge on the fascia/grille styling we currently can’t see. If it looks like the F-150 Lightning with no lightbar, or the Expedition right next to it, then it will probably work IMO. The latter would be better.
The cx50 has a long hood though. It would look completely different with a short stubby hood.
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here are the profile shots we have with the most recent at top. The other two were at a slight angle so this newest one gives us our best look at the dimensions. The windshield goes out much further than I originally thought. It looks like it covers maybe a 1/4 of the front wheel? That’s gonna be a pretty short hood (in length). I also think the new pic and the winter pic show the actual belt line. The high belt line, gigantic extreme sloped windshield, short hood and low front on a truck doesn’t sound like a winning combination so my expectations for this looking good are low. Hopefully I will be surprised.
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Have y’all tried to scan the barcode on the ticket? Wonder if there’s anything there
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https://www.motor1.com/news/800117/2027-bmw-x5-horsepower-price-details/
Some interesting design choices here. The lights and rear bumper are a bit strange. The grille could have been a bit larger too.
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Hyundai and Kia have some good ideas, but they rarely put them together in a cohesive design. I don’t know what their obsession is with creases in the body work or that body colored pillar behind the rear door (they ruined the genesis suv with that pillar too). Fixing both of those makes this look 10x better.
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Saw this ai pic on fb. If they made something like this in the low 20’s geared a bit more towards speed, I might be interested. If it had a 0-60 in the mid to low 5’s, it’d probably feel pretty fast sitting that low with the instant torque. A two seat car is even less useful than a two seat truck, so it would probably never happen.
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I like this more than the Chevy, especially the front end. The way the dash looks kinda reminds me of cars from the 1980’s, but it looks nice
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1 hour ago, rmc523 said:
You know, I've wanted to pull my fender flares off to wash under them, and I've always been afraid to do it (don't want to break any clips etc.)
I’d like to change my grille but I’ve seen a lot of those clips broken so I’m a bit hesitant to do it. It’d be nice if all you had to do was remove a few screws. Take 15 min tops to switch out. Or on the interior. If you wanted to change the dash insert, you basically have to take apart the entire dash. Why can’t it be just a few screws there too? Engineers probably spend countless hours trying to hide all the fasteners. Exposed screws/bolts look cool, especially in off road vehicles.
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6 minutes ago, rmc523 said:
Some seem easy/fun to do. Others (like the wrap), not so much...
I can’t put stickers straight on my kids Legos. I’m not even gonna attempt to put a wrap on 😂
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I wonder how much the body panels cost? Seems like a good idea to be able to unscrew and replace one on your own. This would be especially nice for off road vehicles prone to getting scratched or dented. On bronco for example, you could easily switch between round stock fenders or the heritage style just with a few screws. Got in a fender bender? Just replace the panel yourself, no insurance and body shop needed.
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9 minutes ago, rmc523 said:
I'm skeptical of this product and how it will do....
After seeing the official pricepoint and option costs, I can see the appeal of a cheap "who cares" type truck, and it seems like a great concept.....however, given its lack of features I feel it will struggle to find buyers even at the $25k starting price point. I think most of today's buyers are conditioned for a certain level of standard features (i.e. auto transmissions, power windows are two quick examples of previously "cheap" items that wouldn't be standard that have now become standard in nearly everything), and that once most buyers see that, they'll start checking option boxes and quickly realize how many things they'll have to add where you start getting into the price brackets of other vehicles.
I think there'll be a market, I'm just not sure how strong/deep of a market.I added some features, and the total quickly ballooned to $29k not including an unknown destination charge. Sure there were some options that could be nixed, but still...
Yeah, I built one. With a wrap, upgraded head and tail lights, fog lights, upgraded bumpers, center console, speakers, and a few other small items, I was already at 29k. And that’s still without most of the creature comforts most people are used to.
im guessing the battery pack costs slate maybe 5-7k? Even in the blank slate, I can’t see how everything else besides the battery costs 18-20k.
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Unless this thing looks like a mini passport, I don’t think bronco sport buyers will be interested. The original element was terrible and was much more a Kia soul competitor.
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This would have been perfect for a kids first vehicle if it came in around 15k. Enough range to get them to school, their job, or a friends house. With limited funds, they don’t have to pay for gas. Not a lot of distractions in the vehicle. Too bad it’s 10k too expensive.
$30,000 EV Truck Spy Shots (Autopian found it)
in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
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Yeah, it’s funny what they get away with calling an suv these days. Model Y and the ioniq 5 are straight up hatchbacks.