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A bronco sized Canyon AT4X suv would be pretty cool. Also, if they wanted to go the removable roof route, maybe they could shrink down what they did for the hummer and apply it here too.
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Hyundai Boulder Concept Teases Bronco Fighter
T-dubz replied to rmc523's topic in Competing Products
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I’m curious to see what the atlas cross sport will look like. The current version still looks pretty good in my opinion.
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Hyundai Boulder Concept Teases Bronco Fighter
T-dubz replied to rmc523's topic in Competing Products
I like it. I think a bronco with a fixed roof and alpine windows like this would look pretty cool. I also like the widebody look with the fenders. The full windshield heads up display is an interesting idea. I’m still trying to figure out how the rear doors open though 😆 -
I’m the exact opposite. I pretty much always get the appearance package. Ford used to offer great value in their appearance packages. Often times giving you new bumpers, lights, grilles, wheels and interiors for around $995. These days you can’t even get a wheel upgrade for that price. And for some reason ford thinks everything needs a giant sticker on it now.
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Yep, premium sounds about right for the R2, however that also includes the off-road ability too. Starting at 45k, I think it’s a decent price for what you are getting. A bronco sport badlands starts at 40k, and the R2 is much nicer, larger, and is probably just as good if not better off road. I think the ce1 suv needs to come in closer to low to mid 30s though. If you look at most of its competitors, that’s where they fall. It would seem odd for ford to invent a completely new way of manufacturing vehicles to save on cost, then price it more than the competition.
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Maybe it’s just me, but the wheels look weird in the first pic. Maybe they are too deep? I however do like the design when looking head on like in the second pic. I’m excited to see the new grille, but I think the wildtrak grille will be hard to beat. I wish ford would come out with the glossy black base/black diamond grille from the riptide concept.
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IMO mach e buyers were never “Mustang” buyers. They just wanted an EV. I don’t think there would be much cross shopping either. if ford can keep the price down with a v8, i have no problem with it. Most competitors with a v8 though are 80k and above. Of course those also have 700+ hp. maybe it will follow similar pricing and engines as the mustang like some of you have suggested. I personally think the 2.3 in my Bronco goes pretty good. I can imagine a smaller, lighter vehicle with the 2.3 and possibly a performance tune being pretty fun to drive. Even better if it starts around the price of a mustang ecoboost. I would be interested in a vehicle like that.
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BMW i3 Debuts with Neue Klass Design Language
T-dubz replied to rmc523's topic in Competing Products
I actually like the new front. The body looks like an early 2000’s Lexus or Camry. For all that is going on in the interior, the exterior profile is kinda boring. -
I was mainly referring to 0-60 times. So I would expect it to be low to mid 5 seconds like the explorer st. I’m sure it will handle better. I also think the mustang name is more marketing than anything, just like the mach e was. As long as it’s faster than an average suv, they can get away with it. This allows them to keep price down so the vehicle has more appeal. They can sell a hell of a lot more of these at 45k with a 0-60 of 5.5 seconds then they would sell at 65k with a 4.5 sec 0-60.
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I agree. Any mustang suv would also be smaller than the Explorer, so the 3.0 should perform even better. I have no problem with that being the top engine. I personally can’t see the Mustang suv being a super high performance vehicle. Nothing like a trackhawk or SRT jeep. I think Explorer ST performance is a respectable target. Good performance, well above average, but nothing crazy.
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Puma is not a jimny competitor. It’s essentially a hatchback and the jimny is a cheap basic 4x4. Not to mention the price difference. If ford made something similar to the jimny, but gave it bronco-ish design and kept it around the mid 20’s in price, it would be a decent seller in my opinion. Not for families, but the off road crowd looking for a smaller vehicle for tight trails and singles who need a cheap vehicle or a 4x4. At those prices it could even get some utv cross shopping.
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Here’s my theory. People like the off-road look, not necessarily the ability to go off road. I think all of these vehicles that aren’t boxy SUVs or trucks will be flops. Here is what I would like to see: 1. Bronco sport offered with extended length and 2wd 2. Fixed roof bronco - this could be a 4Runner and ineos grenadier competitor all in one and would look better than the Everest 3. Suzuki jimny competitor - nothing like this exists in the USA now, much smaller than the bronco sport and much cheaper too. Maybe this could start a new market like the maverick did. 4. Super duty ranger
