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The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
T-dubz replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
This looks like a minivan with a truck bed. -
Six new Ford products between now and 2030
T-dubz replied to Sherminator98's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
This seems to be a reoccurring theme with ford, building cheap vehicles on expensive platforms. -
Six new Ford products between now and 2030
T-dubz replied to Sherminator98's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
I think this is the first time I’ve heard the escape called premium lol. There was nothing premium about it. -
Six new Ford products between now and 2030
T-dubz replied to Sherminator98's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Wasn’t escape also being thrown around for the compact suv on the uev platform? All of those other names are terrible by the way 😂. I can’t wait to hear the AI generated story of how they came up with those. -
Six new Ford products between now and 2030
T-dubz replied to Sherminator98's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
I believe Ford considers the Ranger as one of its icon vehicles. Seems strange to get rid of it for some other truck that fills the same segment. -
Six new Ford products between now and 2030
T-dubz replied to Sherminator98's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
I don’t understand a lot of these. Where does the F100 fit in? How would it differ from the Maverick or Ranger? There’s not a lot of room to build something inbetween those size wise. the new utility sounds great. 25k, hybrid, boxy design. Sounds like a winner, but they already have the bronco sport. Why not offer it in 2WD and add a hybrid. Seems like that would be easier/cheaper to do. Mach 4 sounds cool too. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Most sport sedans are based off of a regular sedan, but this a lengthened sports car. Should be a good performer, but is there a market for it? Sedans seem to be making a comeback, but that’s mainly due to the cheap affordable models. I’d like to see the Everest come here. It would be a good competitor to the 4Runner and could do double duty as the edge replacement. Need to wait until it gets a redesign though. I think I’d be more interested in the bronco truck than the f100. It would be a niche market but could share parts with the bronco and they could sell it for more. -
The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
T-dubz replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
I think those shapes are mimicking the headlights. They have a lot of squircles in them just like the video. -
The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
T-dubz replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Maybe embarrassed was too harsh. It’s more of a let down than anything. 200 mile range is a no-go for many. 300 mile range for 30k seemed doable with all the innovations ford has implemented and what other companies have achieved without those innovations. -
The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
T-dubz replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Kind of embarrassing when the Nissan leaf offers 303 miles of range for $30k and they aren’t even using some new manufacturing process to lower costs like ford is. -
The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
T-dubz replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Sorry, those are what you’d expect on a fiat 500. With that said, ford does offer light blue on the maverick, so anything is possible. Since one of ford’s goals is to keep the fathom affordable, I’d guess less color options (and no unique one-off colors) will simplify the build process and keep costs down. -
The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
T-dubz replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Fathom is definitely better than ranchero, however, ever since Sherminators typo (fantom), I keep thinking Ford Phantom sounds so much better than both of them. -
The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
T-dubz replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
If blue cruise is using hardware that would otherwise already be on the vehicle and repurposing it, then that’s a different story, but I didn’t think that was the case. I thought it required additional sensors and cameras. I think ford’s plan here is to get more vehicles with blue cruise on the road so that they can make more money from subscriptions and offset the lower vehicle price. They probably could offer an even more affordable version like I suggested earlier, but that wouldn’t be nearly as profitable as monthly subscriptions rolling in. -
The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
T-dubz replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
I would guess that the slate is also significantly lighter than this truck will be, based solely on the fact it’s a single cab truck with extensive use of plastic. So slate is lighter but fathom is more aerodynamic. If the batteries were the same, you could possibly see similar range. I have no idea how weight or aero affects range though. One might impact it more than the other. If I had to guess, I’d say 230-240 range is where this will fall with extended range right at 300. -
The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
T-dubz replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Again, I wonder how much ford could have saved on this vehicle by not including blue cruise, midgate, bidirectional power, power tailgate (if the focus group user is to be believed), etc. these are all options that rarely get used and only add to the price of a vehicle. Without them, the price could drop significantly and be more in line with the slate. 28k seems like a decent price, but 25k seems a whole lot better. I know some of these are optional, but I doubt ford will offer versions with and without he midgate, and ford pre-installs all the blue cruise hardware regardless if you subscribe to blue cruise or not, so you still technically pay for it. -
The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
T-dubz replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
From the article: “What communicates depth below the surface? How do we communicate an emotional feeling of a vehicle that’s more than it appears to be?” Who talks like this when discussing a vehicle name? I think they came up with the name that sounded cool and then created a fake backstory for it 😂 -
The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
T-dubz replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
The fact that they specifically state the fathom is 28k with the standard range battery tells me that you will not be getting 300 mile range for 30k. If you remember a while back, we discussed comments from a user on mavericktruckclub where he described a focus group for this truck. He mentioned the standard range battery would have at least 200 mile range. He also mentioned the ability to power your house like the lightning, which was shown multiple times in the promo video. Could this mean the starting range is 200 miles? -
The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
T-dubz replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
I think he’s just referring to the camo on the mules. We’ve seen the camo changing the shape of the windows, adding fake door handles, raising the hood and possibly raising the bed sides. He doesn’t know how we have analyzed every spy shot, patent drawing, etc. 😂 we know the general shape, just not the finer details. -
The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
T-dubz replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Ok that makes more sense. The Cyclone/Comet were before my time, and I was only a kid for the Syclone. I coulda swore it was around longer than a year. -
The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
T-dubz replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
I like the slate. I wouldn’t mind having one as a second vehicle. But the value just isn’t there right now. I’ve heard similar from lots of people. I’ve heard “I’ll buy a used one in a couple years” many times, which isn’t a good sign for slate. They need buyers now. -
The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
T-dubz replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Ford Fathom rolls off the tongue the best. Ford Cyclone is the coolest name, but isn’t Cyclone a GM truck? Mythic is the best of the rest, but it seems weird having an adjective as the name. Aeromax reminds me too much of Aerostar. Lightstream sounds dumb. -
The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
T-dubz replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
This makes me wonder how much cheaper it could have been if ford just left the regular stuff on it, or even decontented it a bit. I like cross traffic alert, blis, 360 camera and a large screen to run CarPlay on, but I don’t really need much else. I don’t really need the above either, but those are the safety/tech features I use most. Get rid of all the other junk and maybe you have a vehicle closer to 25k -
The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
T-dubz replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
I think it’s just a regular spoked wheel, and the rotor is making it appear like the rally or lobo wheels. I guess they ford finally heard our complaints about geometric wheels 😂 -
The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
T-dubz replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Wish ford would have skipped the midgate and gone with a power rear window instead. -
the first two are custom garage packages. They aren’t great. The free wheelin isn’t a custom garage bronco, but it’s just another ugly design. I’m not sure if the Bronco Wild Fund (last pic) was ever sold or if it was just a concept/sema build, but it’s got some of the worst wheels I’ve ever seen. You could add the stroppe in there too as a questionable design, although I like it better than the ones above. I don’t mind the RTR bronco but that neon is a bit bright. They’ve had some nice ones too though. The trail rig bronco is one of my favorites and I like the riptide as well. I think it also goes to show how well ford did with the original broncos. The wildtrak in its original form (with painted roof before it got cancelled.) is a great design. Filson has also grown on me since seeing unfiltered photos. im surprised that ford hasn’t released a model that mimics the reveal bronco. It still has one of the best interiors on a Bronco and looks pretty cool on the outside too. A black heritage package seems like a no brainer too.
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The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
T-dubz replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Two panes of glass seems like a weird choice. I’m not sure that’s making production. We’ve seen the rear glass before.
